Hauser/Pritchard 4 Eason/ Sheppard

[JRoy]

“Eason is going to be expensive you should trade him to us”

[redslastlaugh]

lol, i think you have it backwards.

For Celtic fans, we have a tight budget with two Jays on supermaxes. Even if Eason is a better talent than other options mentioned who are signed into the future for less, the Celtics can NOT afford to pay him (even if he is better) so Tari's value to us is the diminished because of this.

Eason is going to be expensive, so this kills his value -- (fixed it for you)

“Eason is going to be expensive you should trade him to us”

[JRoy]

lol, i think you have it backwards.

For Celtic fans, we have a tight budget with two Jays on supermaxes. Even if Eason is a better talent than other options mentioned who are signed into the future for less, the Celtics can NOT afford to pay him (even uif he is better) so Tari's value to us is the diminished because of this.

Eason is going to be expensive, so this kills his value -- (fixed it for you)

“Eason is going to be expensive you should trade him to us”

Agreed.

That’s why that argument is hilarious.

[redslastlaugh]

I think Reed Sheppard is seriously overvalued by this board given Houston's situation. Yes, Reed was the 3rd pick, albeit in a very unserious draft.

This isn't an unreasonable argument, in that there's a pretty serious chance that Reed doesn't develop into as good as Pritchard and in the event he does, he'll command a contract much larger than Pritchard.

However, most teams don't view guys they draft that way, and obviously, if Reed ends up really more like a max player, then you won't really care if Pritchard's contract is better bang for the buck or something.

Also, there's no indication that Houston's ownership isn't willing to pay for a good team, also, as long as Fred is hurt and on the team, they're stuck with being down 25m on the cap, saving a few M on Reed for Pritchard isn't going to fix that. and by the time it does, it's quite likely that KD is done or close to being done (not to mention, Pritchard will probably not extend and his next contract is anyone's guess.)

So while I think there is merit to the argument of Pritchard for Reed might not be a bad idea in a vacuum, in the context of where the Rocket is at especially in light of the Fred injury is meh.

Of course, the Hauser for Tari part is far more dubious, not to mention adding in picks from Houston, if Houston is really keen on getting solid low cost controlled role players, just the pick plus some matching minimums could get them into the conversation, it's not like Boston is the only team with those players and Houston has done at least a reasonable job in finding diamonds in the rough themselves.

It really comes down the money and our GMs literal hatred for small guards, lol

Houston fans just imagine Reed Sheppard's achievable upside is he becomes an all star level guard because he was a 3rd overall pick who was comped predraft to Mark Price. Right now, Reed is not that (an all star guard) and, given the money he makes and his known production last year, the Celts arent really the team that is going to pay up to acquire him hoping he hits that upside.

Not knocking Reed or Tari, but Celts are still trying to get under the tax this season and then trying to win a title in the Jayson Tatum window. And the finances just don't work for these two teams to make a deal, even if Brad Stevens overcame his anti--small guard bias and rates Reed Sheppard really highly, I don't see a deal here

[TGW]

I guess if Houston just wants to cap themselves as an early exit playoff team, yea they'd do this.

[redslastlaugh]

In a scenario where Houston really wants to go for it with KD this year
&
If Embiid has another injury ravaged year ...
&
FVV would waive his noTrade to be rejoined with Nick Nurse

An interesting idea would be

FVV
Capella
Tate
2026 PHX pick
2 additional first round picks

for

Tyrese Maxey

This makes more sense to solve Houston's ball handler problems an give Durant/Senguin/TerrorTwins a real chance to get deep in the playoffs

edit: the money may be off a bit here, but the general idea holds, it'd just have to be Adams instead of Capela or rework the idea a touch... but the premise remains: Tyrese Maxey makes more sense as a target than Payton Pritchard

Eason Sheppard and pics
4 hauser and Pritchard
Boston sells high
Houston fills needs

[RollingWave]

I think Reed Sheppard is seriously overvalued by this board given Houston's situation. Yes, Reed was the 3rd pick, albeit in a very unserious draft.

This isn't an unreasonable argument, in that there's a pretty serious chance that Reed doesn't develop into as good as Pritchard and in the event he does, he'll command a contract much larger than Pritchard.

However, most teams don't view guys they draft that way, and obviously, if Reed ends up really more like a max player, then you won't really care if Pritchard's contract is better bang for the buck or something.

Also, there's no indication that Houston's ownership isn't willing to pay for a good team, also, as long as Fred is hurt and on the team, they're stuck with being down 25m on the cap, saving a few M on Reed for Pritchard isn't going to fix that. and by the time it does, it's quite likely that KD is done or close to being done (not to mention, Pritchard will probably not extend and his next contract is anyone's guess.)

So while I think there is merit to the argument of Pritchard for Reed might not be a bad idea in a vacuum, in the context of where the Rocket is at especially in light of the Fred injury is meh.

Of course, the Hauser for Tari part is far more dubious, not to mention adding in picks from Houston, if Houston is really keen on getting solid low cost controlled role players, just the pick plus some matching minimums could get them into the conversation, it's not like Boston is the only team with those players and Houston has done at least a reasonable job in finding diamonds in the rough themselves.

It really comes down the money and our GMs literal hatred for small guards, lol

Houston fans just imagine Reed Sheppard's achievable upside is he becomes an all star level guard because he was a 3rd overall pick who was comped predraft to Mark Price. Right now, Reed is not that (an all star guard) and, given the money he makes and his known production last year, the Celts arent really the team that is going to pay up to acquire him hoping he hits that upside.

Not knocking Reed or Tari, but Celts are still trying to get under the tax this season and then trying to win a title in the Jayson Tatum window. And the finances just don't work for these two teams to make a deal, even if Brad Stevens overcame his anti--small guard bias and rates Reed Sheppard really highly, I don't see a deal here

If you're treating Reed as a negative asset and expect Houston to also take that view, I suggest you just waive Pritchard and Hauser. Any draft pick can fail, and many do, but teams that draft them never gonna take the view that well they'll all fail so let's just dump them all unless they become an all star in year one or something.

[redslastlaugh]

This isn't an unreasonable argument, in that there's a pretty serious chance that Reed doesn't develop into as good as Pritchard and in the event he does, he'll command a contract much larger than Pritchard.

However, most teams don't view guys they draft that way, and obviously, if Reed ends up really more like a max player, then you won't really care if Pritchard's contract is better bang for the buck or something.

Also, there's no indication that Houston's ownership isn't willing to pay for a good team, also, as long as Fred is hurt and on the team, they're stuck with being down 25m on the cap, saving a few M on Reed for Pritchard isn't going to fix that. and by the time it does, it's quite likely that KD is done or close to being done (not to mention, Pritchard will probably not extend and his next contract is anyone's guess.)

So while I think there is merit to the argument of Pritchard for Reed might not be a bad idea in a vacuum, in the context of where the Rocket is at especially in light of the Fred injury is meh.

Of course, the Hauser for Tari part is far more dubious, not to mention adding in picks from Houston, if Houston is really keen on getting solid low cost controlled role players, just the pick plus some matching minimums could get them into the conversation, it's not like Boston is the only team with those players and Houston has done at least a reasonable job in finding diamonds in the rough themselves.

It really comes down the money and our GMs literal hatred for small guards, lol

Houston fans just imagine Reed Sheppard's achievable upside is he becomes an all star level guard because he was a 3rd overall pick who was comped predraft to Mark Price. Right now, Reed is not that (an all star guard) and, given the money he makes and his known production last year, the Celts arent really the team that is going to pay up to acquire him hoping he hits that upside.

Not knocking Reed or Tari, but Celts are still trying to get under the tax this season and then trying to win a title in the Jayson Tatum window. And the finances just don't work for these two teams to make a deal, even if Brad Stevens overcame his anti--small guard bias and rates Reed Sheppard really highly, I don't see a deal here

If you're treating Reed as a negative asset and expect Houston to also take that view, I suggest you just waive Pritchard and Hauser.

I'm not expecting Houston to take any view. Brad Stevens just has types he likes and he doesn't like smaller guards. It's not that Reed is a "negative asset", as if he's Jerami Grant or something. It's that I doubt Brad wants any guards under 200 lbs.

Also Celts and Rockets dont have to trade with each other, lol, so it's fine.