Bears thread 13

[Dresden]

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Good news, esp with Booker. We're dead last in sacks.

[Dresden]

Here's a question- why isn't Cole Kmet a top 10 TE? He's got the size, he's fast for his size, seems to be a good blocker, historically has had excellent hands. Is it just because the Bears have always had a sucky passing attack? Or does he have some weakness that holds him back? I know he's not the slim, agile type TE like a Sam La Porta or Dalton Kincaid, but I don't see why he couldn't be a weak version of a Travis Kelce or Jimmy Graham.

[nomorezorro]

kmet's "strength" is that he's adequate at everything, but he isn't notably good at anything. solid blocker for an every-down TE, but not anywhere close to as good as the blocking specialists (or even the best blockers among pass-catching TEs). solid receiver, but nothing special; probably not a top 10 pass catcher at the position. not a meaningful threat with the ball in his hands, makes more mistakes than you'd want from a guy who isn't elite.

for specific stuff, he's not good against man coverage/doesn't create mismatches when guarded 1v1. that was presumably a big reason we drafted loveland, whose route running/separation ability is probably his biggest strength

[fleet]

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I really want Garrett but don’t think we there yet

Ryan Poles used to be addicted to rushing the process, and he’s been burned multiple times. He’s modulated his approach somewhat recently, (a lil), and hopefully he becomes completely cured someday.

[Dresden]

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I really want Garrett but don’t think we there yet

Ryan Poles used to be addicted to rushing the process, and he’s been burned multiple times. He’s modulated his approach somewhat recently, (a lil), and hopefully he becomes completely cured someday.

I hardly think that's an accurate characterization of his process. Just because he traded draft picks a few times (notably for Sweat and Claypool). I'd have to see a comparison with other GM's, how often they've done that, before I believe Poles is "rushing things".

[panthermark]

kmet's "strength" is that he's adequate at everything, but he isn't notably good at anything. solid blocker for an every-down TE, but not anywhere close to as good as the blocking specialists (or even the best blockers among pass-catching TEs). solid receiver, but nothing special; probably not a top 10 pass catcher at the position. not a meaningful threat with the ball in his hands, makes more mistakes than you'd want from a guy who isn't elite.

for specific stuff, he's not good against man coverage/doesn't create mismatches when guarded 1v1. that was presumably a big reason we drafted loveland, whose route running/separation ability is probably his biggest strength

I think that is all fair, especially the underline/bolded!

He is...

[dice]

Is this team drafted players that are still on that specific team, or is this team drafted players on any active roster ??? I'd think the later would be more interesting.

There are a lot of ways you can read this. At the left side, you have powerhouses like the Bills, Ravens and Chiefs. But on the right side, you also have three of the 4 best teams in the NFC last year, the Vikings, Lions and Commanders.

It’s also a sample size of 1 year. Didn’t the Rams and Bucs win a superbowl with a bunch of free agents?

left side of chart is loaded w/ teams w/ expensive QBs. opposite on right side. obviously teams w/ expensive QBs need to offset w/ young, inexpensive talent (the more, the better). and teams w/ QBs on rookie deals have more FA money

[Chi town]

If you get The Athletic ($$) real good article from D Wiederer on Tyrique Stevenson.
- Stevenson apparently didn't know he was the one who deflected the ball up in the Hail Mary, until he saw the film
- TS in the locker room after the Was game, called his middle school wresting coach (Rudy Trevino, mentor and confidant) who gave TS an earful; "...you're a teach tape now. For the rest of your life..."
- TS never met his father and his step dad left when he was in middle school. So TS had to be the man in the house of five women (mom + four sisters) at a young age.
- dropped 13 lbs in a 24hr period to make a wrestling class weight in 8th grade (article details 24 hr workout with Trevino)
- was over confident/mouthy a couple of times in high school and at U Miami and got burned on big plays
- had a son born in April, fatherhood has changed his outlook, spotlight now on his son (Poles, Trevino and Byard all note TS maturity change)
- this spring equipt manager T Medlin asked TS if he'd forgiven himself yet for the Hail Mary fiasco [this question apparently caused TS to look within himself in greater depth]

Thanks. Adds up and makes sense.

When he’s locked in he’s a pro bowler with all pro talent.

[Chi town]

kmet's "strength" is that he's adequate at everything, but he isn't notably good at anything. solid blocker for an every-down TE, but not anywhere close to as good as the blocking specialists (or even the best blockers among pass-catching TEs). solid receiver, but nothing special; probably not a top 10 pass catcher at the position. not a meaningful threat with the ball in his hands, makes more mistakes than you'd want from a guy who isn't elite.

for specific stuff, he's not good against man coverage/doesn't create mismatches when guarded 1v1. that was presumably a big reason we drafted loveland, whose route running/separation ability is probably his biggest strength

Bingo. Well said.

[TheGOATRises007]

Beating the Commanders would be pretty nice. 3-2 after 5 games is a good start.

Even though the end result last season was good for the franchise, that loss still stings for me.

[fleet]

Beating the Commanders would be pretty nice. 3-2 after 5 games is a good start.

Even though the end result last season was good for the franchise, that loss still stings for me.

4-1 was so tantalizingly close if not for the brave heroics of a “rookie” quarterback whose stock has recently crashed!

I didn’t really buy that 4-2 team tbh. This season, I was way too ready to suspend disbelief, and the Vikings loss hurt just as bad of not worse. I had let expectations creep in. The expectations are what was suspended as a result, The Bears wins have been meh. This game will largely show me which way to invest my feelings which have been covered and shoved deep.

[Indomitable]

kmet's "strength" is that he's adequate at everything, but he isn't notably good at anything. solid blocker for an every-down TE, but not anywhere close to as good as the blocking specialists (or even the best blockers among pass-catching TEs). solid receiver, but nothing special; probably not a top 10 pass catcher at the position. not a meaningful threat with the ball in his hands, makes more mistakes than you'd want from a guy who isn't elite.

for specific stuff, he's not good against man coverage/doesn't create mismatches when guarded 1v1. that was presumably a big reason we drafted loveland, whose route running/separation ability is probably his biggest strength

So Kmet is basically mister Mediocre.

[Hold That]

DJ Moore for Jeffery Simmons might be in the works..

Actually works for both teams

[fleet]

DJ Moore for Jeffery Simmons might be in the works..

Actually works for both teams

Source?

It works for the Bears. For the Titans, I’d rather have draft picks. But fit wise, it has some logic

[patryk7754]

kmet's "strength" is that he's adequate at everything, but he isn't notably good at anything. solid blocker for an every-down TE, but not anywhere close to as good as the blocking specialists (or even the best blockers among pass-catching TEs). solid receiver, but nothing special; probably not a top 10 pass catcher at the position. not a meaningful threat with the ball in his hands, makes more mistakes than you'd want from a guy who isn't elite.

for specific stuff, he's not good against man coverage/doesn't create mismatches when guarded 1v1. that was presumably a big reason we drafted loveland, whose route running/separation ability is probably his biggest strength

I’d say his main strength is being a threat in the redzone, particularly inside the 10. He does a good job of getting up and putting his shoulder down. But yeah, he’s nothing special.

Hate that Loveland is hurt because he’s not getting an opportunity to show if he was truly the right TE to take, while Warren is off to an amazing start. Ultimately, I think we need to move Kmet. For a couple of reasons. One, we kinda have to condense our offensive weapons. And directly tied to that, Loveland needs his shot to be TE1

[patryk7754]

DJ Moore for Jeffery Simmons might be in the works..

Actually works for both teams

Source?

It works for the Bears. For the Titans, I’d rather have draft picks

I don’t think it works for the bears. Idk why bears fans are so ready to get rid of Moore. He’s a top notch playmaker. He might not be the number one option for Williams but I don’t think that necessarily means he’s not the best WR on the team. If we get rid of Moore, we will be reliant on a second year WR a rookie WR and TE, the most average TE of all time, and a terrible run game. I don’t thibk that would beneficial for us.

But, if Simmons is gettable, I would definitely put in a call. Our 3 and dexter or the guy we drafted in the second would be amazing for us. Might have to give up a better pick tho. I think Simmons beat up his wife or something tho. If that’s the case I don’t want him

[othawhitemeat]

DJ Moore for Jeffery Simmons might be in the works..

Actually works for both teams

Would love it for both teams. Simmons is a stud that would allow us to put more pressure while allowing Burden more touches. Would also allow us if Jarrett is healthy enough and wanted to, to trade Dexter for other areas such as RB, DE, or LT, imo. Moore is good, but I wonder if he is content not being the alpha with Rome being the alpha now.

[patryk7754]

After a quick google search, the only thing I saw about Simmons and the bears was a proposed trade idea by a sports illustrated writer. Nothing official

[biggestbullsfan]

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I’m gonna be so upset if Brisker has another concussion. Because what’s going on at this point.

[biggestbullsfan]

DJ Moore for Jeffery Simmons might be in the works..

Actually works for both teams

Would love it for both teams. Simmons is a stud that would allow us to put more pressure while allowing Burden more touches. Would also allow us if Jarrett is healthy enough and wanted to, to trade Dexter for other areas such as RB, DE, or LT, imo. Moore is good, but I wonder if he is content not being the alpha with Rome being the alpha now.

If we trade DJ, we are one WR injury away from being the Giants. Luther Burden is still learning the offense and Rome is taking advantage of DJ getting attention. Not like #1 attention. If we trade DJ, it shouldn’t be until the offseason imo.