Raps V. Nuggets - Preseason - Mon, Oct 6th, 2025 - 10PM EST

[HumbleRen]

What impact do you think playing with all star level guards has? Nothing lol?

Tell me about Mobleys creation skills too. I'm waiting.

Why does it matter? It’s clear at this point that neither Mobley or Scottie are first option players.

Wouldn’t you rather have the more malleable 3rd option caliber player that just won a DPOY?

I still think Scottie is an all star caliber player but it’s pretty clear that Franz, Cade, Mobley and Sengun are above him at this point.

Our team gets considerably better if you replace Scottie with any of those 4.

Not true all those guys play with better guards than Scottie. Mobley winning DPOTY is more about playing next to Allen and coaching than his own skillset.

Barnes is the better player for a championship caliber team. If you put him on the Cavs instead they wouldn't change at all. They are equal value and I'd give Barnes the higher potential.

Who’s the amazing guard that Sengun, Franz and Cade play with lol?

Cavs get worse. They don’t need a non spacing 4 who can’t screen or play without the ball.

What use does Mitchell and Garland have for Scottie when he doesn’t know how to screen and roll.

What does higher potential even mean for players in year 5. That’s not potential anymore, that’s a player who’s failing to reach his ceiling.

[Thaddy]

Why does it matter? It’s clear at this point that neither Mobley or Scottie are first option players.

Wouldn’t you rather have the more malleable 3rd option caliber player that just won a DPOY?

I still think Scottie is an all star caliber player but it’s pretty clear that Franz, Cade, Mobley and Sengun are above him at this point.

Our team gets considerably better if you replace Scottie with any of those 4.

Not true all those guys play with better guards than Scottie. Mobley winning DPOTY is more about playing next to Allen and coaching than his own skillset.

Barnes is the better player for a championship caliber team. If you put him on the Cavs instead they wouldn't change at all. They are equal value and I'd give Barnes the higher potential.

Who’s the amazing guard that Sengun, Franz and Cade play with lol?

Cavs get worse. They don’t need a non spacing 4 who can’t screen or play without the ball.

What use does Mitchell and Garland have for Scottie when he doesn’t know how to screen and roll.

What does higher potential even mean for players in year 5. That’s not potential anymore, that’s a player who’s failing to reach his ceiling.

Sengun played with Green and Fred most recently. Franz plays with Banchero a perimeter oriented forward who plays like a guard. Cade is trash on defense and isn't a great first option probably never experiences playoff success.

Rolling is a skill? Lol. Who's the best roller in the NBA?

Cavs get better with a versatile defender who can guard 1-5 while Allen takes credit for being the actual rim protector.

Year 5 is still potential based because he isn't in his prime yet, never had a defined role and has been shifted around several times.

[HumbleRen]

Not true all those guys play with better guards than Scottie. Mobley winning DPOTY is more about playing next to Allen and coaching than his own skillset.

Barnes is the better player for a championship caliber team. If you put him on the Cavs instead they wouldn't change at all. They are equal value and I'd give Barnes the higher potential.

Who’s the amazing guard that Sengun, Franz and Cade play with lol?

Cavs get worse. They don’t need a non spacing 4 who can’t screen or play without the ball.

What use does Mitchell and Garland have for Scottie when he doesn’t know how to screen and roll.

What does higher potential even mean for players in year 5. That’s not potential anymore, that’s a player who’s failing to reach his ceiling.

Sengun played with Green and Fred most recently. Franz plays with Banchero a perimeter oriented forward who plays like a guard. Cade is trash on defense and isn't a great first option probably never experiences playoff success.

Rolling is a skill? Lol. Who's the best roller in the NBA?

Cavs get better with a versatile defender who can guard 1-5 while Allen takes credit for being the actual rim protector.

Year 5 is still potential based because he isn't in his prime yet, never had a defined role and has been shifted around several times.

Are FVV and Green elite guards to you lol?

Franz plays even better without Banchero so that doesn’t hold weight.

Cade being “trash” on defence is hilarious.

Rolling and screening is absolutely a skill. Especially if you’re inept at shooting like Scottie is. We’d be drastically a better team on offence if Scottie was half as good as Draymond was at screening.