The 1 and only Giannis trade thread until he decides what to do?.

[SlimShady83]

Mods: I thought there was best to have just 1 thread for Giannis trade thread until he decides what to do, feel free to edit the title and thread if need, I am pretty easy no hard feelings Insert your trades what you feel best if need for what ever team you go for.

For the Giannis trade if it happens how many teams or picks do you all think will be involved if it happens?

A) How many teams will be involved? 1 or more?
B) How many picks should be involved? for me personally I think 3-5 FRPs or pickswaps etc
C) How many young players should be involved? He is 31 ish going on 32 these players need to be younger then this and then you need to add in salary matching for his contract.

Honestly I feel at least 2 younger players + matching salary and 3-5 picks should be involved. Who has the best offers for this 1 team for 1 or more??

You also need to keep Giannis happy would he be happy playing in the "Tough West" OR "EZ East", out side of the top 4.

If Giannis decides to extend with Bucks mods feel free to block this thread, but until then just feel like 1 thread is best .


For the Lakers: only trade I came up with IN a team for team trade is;

Reaves, Rui, Gabe, Maxi this trade works with out picks... Then you got to consider the FRP + pick swaps (I believe they have up to 4-5?) and no doubt SRP for Bucks to even consider it.

He has stated he wants Knicks, while Knicks have the players to match, as to my knowledge they don't have the picks, so if he demands only Knicks wouldn't this mean more teams need to be involved and how many?

Happy hunting all.

[jbk1234]

If I'm the Bucks, I'm not enthused about taking back firsts as the main compensation from a team that's going to pair Luka with Giannis.

[SlimShady83]

If I'm the Bucks, I'm not enthused about taking back firsts as the main compensation from a team that's going to pair Luka with Giannis.

haha as a Laker fan I was just using them as an example, 1 or more teams could be involved and more picks etc etc.

[babyjax13]

I think Atlanta makes the most sense. Assuming Young and Porzingis are staying in Atlanta in such a deal:

Young players with clear value that could be dealt -
Jalen Johnson
Onyeka Okongwu
Zaccharie Risacher
Dyson Daniels
Asa Newell

Rotation players -
Nickeil Alexander-Walker
Luke Kennard

So, easy to assemble salaries with young players and guys who can be flipped.

First round picks -
2026 - ATL/SAS (lower, more swap options on it that likely are not exercised), NOP/MIL (higher)
2027 - NOP/MIL (lower, MIL protected 1-4, if no MIL pick, no pick conveys)
2028 - ATL/CLE/UTA (effectively second most favorable)
2029 - ATL
2030 - ATL
2031 - ATL
2032 - ATL

So, easy to add additional pick value.

I think Johnson has to be included both for value and financial reasons. I would also be asking for Risacher and ATL should give him up if that helps get it over the line. Then picks + filler + other value that can be added. My guess would be:

Johnson
Risacher
Okongwu
Kennard
2026 NOP/MIL 1st (higher)
2027 NOP/MIL 1st (lower)
2028 ATL/CLE/UTA 1st (second best)

for

Giannis
Turner

That gives Milwaukee an actual young core to build around + they recover some of their picks.

Okongwu/Portis/Sims
Johnson/Portis/Smith
Risacher/Prince/Kuzma
KPJ/Kennard/Green
Rollins/Anthony/KPJ

Atlanta would need to rebalance their roster a bit, but they could do that.

Turner/Porzingis
Giannis/Turner/Newell
NAW/Djurisic/Daniels
Daniels/Krejci
Young/Wallace

Court is spread, plenty of perimeter and interior defenders to cover for Young ... just imagine how dangerous their offense could be playing 4 out and spamming PnR with Giannis and Young. Ideally for Atlanta you'd try to keep Risacher and replace him with picks and Newell in the deal, but I don't think you let that stop you from doing a deal.

[One_and_Done]

The issue with 90% of these trades is going to be that Giannis has to actually want to go there. Like, I just saw someone mention Atlanta. Why is Giannis asking out just to go to Atlanta? Has any star player ever demanded a trade to Atlanta?

[babyjax13]

The issue with 90% of these trades is going to be that Giannis has to actually want to go there. Like, I just saw someone mention Atlanta. Why is Giannis asking out just to go to Atlanta? Has any star player ever demanded a trade to Atlanta?

I don't think there is a team better set up to accommodate his playstyle. He would be on a contender, and thus far that has been his priority. Atlanta is also easy for travel. Milwaukee also doesn't have to trade him to a specific team - he can demand that, sure, but they aren't going to do it if they can't get anything worthwhile as a return. What we will likely see is a list of teams, and I think Atlanta has a really good argument that it is the best situation for him. The other two teams that come to mind with a lot of assets are OKC and Houston, and both would be great landing spots.

[One_and_Done]

The issue with 90% of these trades is going to be that Giannis has to actually want to go there. Like, I just saw someone mention Atlanta. Why is Giannis asking out just to go to Atlanta? Has any star player ever demanded a trade to Atlanta?

I don't think there is a team better set up to accommodate his playstyle. He would be on a contender, and thus far that has been his priority. Atlanta is also easy for travel. Milwaukee also doesn't have to trade him to a specific team - he can demand that, sure, but they aren't going to do it if they can't get anything worthwhile as a return. What we will likely see is a list of team, and I think Atlanta has a really good argument that it is the best situation for him. The other two teams that come to mind with a lot of assets are OKC and Houston, and both would be great landing spots.

Leaving aside whether that's true, and I don't think it is... they play in Atlanta. Why would Giannis demands a trade to go to Atlanta? Has any star ever done that? It's just not a lucrative enough market to be plausible.

Giannis has leverage, and if he demands a trade he's getting a pretty big say in where he goes, to the point he can pretty much dictate a small list of teams. Atlanta will not be on that list.

[babyjax13]

The issue with 90% of these trades is going to be that Giannis has to actually want to go there. Like, I just saw someone mention Atlanta. Why is Giannis asking out just to go to Atlanta? Has any star player ever demanded a trade to Atlanta?

I don't think there is a team better set up to accommodate his playstyle. He would be on a contender, and thus far that has been his priority. Atlanta is also easy for travel. Milwaukee also doesn't have to trade him to a specific team - he can demand that, sure, but they aren't going to do it if they can't get anything worthwhile as a return. What we will likely see is a list of team, and I think Atlanta has a really good argument that it is the best situation for him. The other two teams that come to mind with a lot of assets are OKC and Houston, and both would be great landing spots.

Leaving aside whether that's true, and I don't think it is... they play in Atlanta. Why would Giannis demands a trade to go to Atlanta? Has any star ever done that? It's just not a lucrative enough market to be plausible.

Giannis has leverage, and if he demands a trade he's getting a pretty big say in where he goes, to the point he can pretty much dictate a small list of teams. Atlanta will not be on that list.

Atlanta is the 8th largest metropolitan statistical area in the country, has a huge media market, and is a hub for the entire deep South. I don't see how it wouldn't be lucrative enough to be plausible. It isn't Utah/Memphis/New Orleans, etc. Atlanta is massive. I don't know if it is important for him, but culturally it is also a very cool city. There is a shocking amount of international food there, and it has places where people of a ton of different backgrounds can feel comfortable. It is also a hub for national media and art, too - cringy I know, but Real Housewives of Atlanta is one of the biggest reality TV series in the entire world, and so many movies etc. are produced there. I think you are underrating it as a market.

Off the top of my head when has a star demanded a trade specifically to Atlanta - I don't know. But I feel pretty confident when we have seen lists from players that it has shown up a few times. Not going to do the research to find it, but I think it is a pretty good market for a star player.

I think given the assets they have and the roster they've put together that Atlanta is one of, if not the most plausible, scenarios.

[One_and_Done]

I don't think there is a team better set up to accommodate his playstyle. He would be on a contender, and thus far that has been his priority. Atlanta is also easy for travel. Milwaukee also doesn't have to trade him to a specific team - he can demand that, sure, but they aren't going to do it if they can't get anything worthwhile as a return. What we will likely see is a list of team, and I think Atlanta has a really good argument that it is the best situation for him. The other two teams that come to mind with a lot of assets are OKC and Houston, and both would be great landing spots.

Leaving aside whether that's true, and I don't think it is... they play in Atlanta. Why would Giannis demands a trade to go to Atlanta? Has any star ever done that? It's just not a lucrative enough market to be plausible.

Giannis has leverage, and if he demands a trade he's getting a pretty big say in where he goes, to the point he can pretty much dictate a small list of teams. Atlanta will not be on that list.

Atlanta is the 8th largest metropolitan statistical area in the country, has a huge media market, and is a hub for the entire deep South. I don't see how it wouldn't be lucrative enough to be plausible. It isn't Utah/Memphis/New Orleans, etc. Atlanta is massive. I don't know if it is important for him, but culturally it is also a very cool city. There is a shocking amount of international food there, and it has places where people of a ton of different backgrounds can feel comfortable. It is also a hub for national media and art, too - cringy I know, but Real Housewives of Atlanta is one of the biggest reality TV series in the entire world, and so many movies etc. are produced there. I think you are underrating it as a market.

Off the top of my head when has a star demanded a trade specifically to Atlanta - I don't know. But I feel pretty confident when we have seen lists from players that it has shown up a few times. Not going to do the research to find it, but I think it is a pretty good market for a star player.

I think given the assets they have and the roster they've put together that Atlanta is one of, if not the most plausible, scenarios.

For NBA players there's a very select group of cities players are interested in playing for. Atlanta has proven not to be one. Whether it's the 8th largest market on paper according to metric XYZ doesn't really matter. I don't disagree that it ranks above Memphis or Utah, but for most teams you can say the same.

Players want to play in LA, NY, Miami, SF, and that's more or less it. Aside from those 6 teams, you don't really have star player pull as another city. If a star player doesn't like the situation in those cities, or moving there is impossible, they will sometimes compromise and agree to a warm weather city with no taxes, etc, like Houston, but it's basically just those 6 teams.

[Buckfan76]

As a guy who grew up in MKE and is a big-time Bucks fan. I value Giannis honesty. He said right now I'm committed to MKE, but it's about championships, and since 21, we have not done it.

Teams as a Bucks fan I would be interested in talking about a trade would be: Raptors, Spurs, Houston, and OKC first. As said, I like what ATL has to offer but not sure Giannis would want to go there. The Knicks offer would be hard because it would need to be a 3 way trade. Of course 3-5 1st round picks also.

Raptors have: Murray-Boyles, Barnes, G. Dick, Oghabi, Quickly

Spurs: Either Castle or Harper, Sochan, Vassell

Rockets: Sengun, Sheppard, Amen (doubt he's available)

OKC: Jalen Williams, Hartenstein, Topic

[taikibansei]

I posted this to the General Board, but it fits here too.

I personally don't see a trade with us unless Giannis were to 1) demand a trade, and 2) specify that he'd only go to the Knicks. If this were to happen, though, I think the Knicks would offer KAT and one of Bridges/Hart (plus somebody off our bench and whatever frps we have left). In a vacuum, yes, this would be a low ball offer, but the Knicks would have some leverage here.

[jbk1234]

I posted this to the General Board, but it fits here too.

I personally don't see a trade with us unless Giannis were to 1) demand a trade, and 2) specify that he'd only go to the Knicks. If this were to happen, though, I think the Knicks would offer KAT and one of Bridges/Hart (plus somebody off our bench and whatever frps we have left). In a vacuum, yes, this would be a low ball offer, but the Knicks would have some leverage here.

That will be near impossible to pull off in-season given the salaries involved. The Bucks can't legally send out Giannis and take back almost $90M in salary. Also, the Bucks will want to reroute players the Knicks are offering and the logistics of doing that in season are a nightmare.

KAT to a third team like Charlotte and O.G. to a 4th team like the Kings might work. Add in the Bucks trading Turner to a 5th team and you could return enough in terms of young players and picks.

[taikibansei]

I posted this to the General Board, but it fits here too.

I personally don't see a trade with us unless Giannis were to 1) demand a trade, and 2) specify that he'd only go to the Knicks. If this were to happen, though, I think the Knicks would offer KAT and one of Bridges/Hart (plus somebody off our bench and whatever frps we have left). In a vacuum, yes, this would be a low ball offer, but the Knicks would have some leverage here.

That will be near impossible to pull off in-season given the salaries involved. The Bucks can't legally send out Giannis and take back almost $90M in salary. Also, the Bucks will want to reroute players the Knicks are offering and the logistics of doing that in season are a nightmare.

KAT to a third team like Charlotte and O.G. to a 4th team like the Kings might work. Add in the Bucks trading Turner to a 5th team and you could return enough in terms of young players and picks.

Again, I don't see a trade happening, and many pieces on both sides can't be traded now, but at least on Trade Checker, I could get several variations to work over next summer. Not sure if I'm doing this right, but here's a link to one:

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/8877471

Swapping out Kuzma for Turner also works, but that would cut into the frps that the Knicks might send. (An argument could be made that Kuzma was a bottom-3 NBA starter last season--nobody wants that guy or should.) Here's a link to that trade:

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/8877473

As I've stated, these are low-ball offers, but gutting the Knicks' current roster in a trade for Giannis (i.e., a "fair" trade) just makes us into Milwaukee east--not serious contenders (and wasting the remainder of Giannis' prime). I think Knicks' management understands this and has continued to low-ball, which is why the rumored trade discussions this past summer ultimately went nowhere.

Unless and until Giannis demands a trade and specifies the Knicks (and only the Knicks), I don't see this situation changing. (And even then, the Bucks might just tell Giannis "nope, we can do better elsewhere...so suck it up.") Still, there were rumors of discussions between the two teams this past summer (and nowhere else from my understanding), which is why I bring it up here.

[jbk1234]

I posted this to the General Board, but it fits here too.

I personally don't see a trade with us unless Giannis were to 1) demand a trade, and 2) specify that he'd only go to the Knicks. If this were to happen, though, I think the Knicks would offer KAT and one of Bridges/Hart (plus somebody off our bench and whatever frps we have left). In a vacuum, yes, this would be a low ball offer, but the Knicks would have some leverage here.

That will be near impossible to pull off in-season given the salaries involved. The Bucks can't legally send out Giannis and take back almost $90M in salary. Also, the Bucks will want to reroute players the Knicks are offering and the logistics of doing that in season are a nightmare.

KAT to a third team like Charlotte and O.G. to a 4th team like the Kings might work. Add in the Bucks trading Turner to a 5th team and you could return enough in terms of young players and picks.

Again, I don't see a trade happening, and many pieces on both sides can't be traded now, but at least on Trade Checker, I could get several variations to work over next summer. Not sure if I'm doing this right, but here's a link to one:

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/8877471

Swapping out Kuzma for Turner also works, but that would cut into the frps that the Knicks might send. (An argument could be made that Kuzma was a bottom-3 NBA starter last season--nobody wants that guy or should.) Here's a link to that trade:

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/8877473

As I've stated, these are low-ball offers, but gutting the Knicks' current roster in a trade for Giannis (i.e., a "fair" trade) just makes us into Milwaukee east--not serious contenders (and wasting the remainder of Giannis' prime). I think Knicks' management understands this and has continued to low-ball, which is why the rumored trade discussions this past summer ultimately went nowhere.

Unless and until Giannis demands a trade and specifies the Knicks (and only the Knicks), I don't see this situation changing. (And even then, the Bucks might just tell Giannis "nope, we can do better elsewhere...so suck it up.") Still, there were rumors of discussions between the two teams this past summer (and nowhere else from my understanding), which is why I bring it up here.

The last two stars who have presented their teams with a one-team list (Dame and Butler) have been traded to another team. One-team lists are counterproductive.

[taikibansei]

That will be near impossible to pull off in-season given the salaries involved. The Bucks can't legally send out Giannis and take back almost $90M in salary. Also, the Bucks will want to reroute players the Knicks are offering and the logistics of doing that in season are a nightmare.

KAT to a third team like Charlotte and O.G. to a 4th team like the Kings might work. Add in the Bucks trading Turner to a 5th team and you could return enough in terms of young players and picks.

Again, I don't see a trade happening, and many pieces on both sides can't be traded now, but at least on Trade Checker, I could get several variations to work over next summer. Not sure if I'm doing this right, but here's a link to one:

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/8877471

Swapping out Kuzma for Turner also works, but that would cut into the frps that the Knicks might send. (An argument could be made that Kuzma was a bottom-3 NBA starter last season--nobody wants that guy or should.) Here's a link to that trade:

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/8877473

As I've stated, these are low-ball offers, but gutting the Knicks' current roster in a trade for Giannis (i.e., a "fair" trade) just makes us into Milwaukee east--not serious contenders (and wasting the remainder of Giannis' prime). I think Knicks' management understands this and has continued to low-ball, which is why the rumored trade discussions this past summer ultimately went nowhere.

Unless and until Giannis demands a trade and specifies the Knicks (and only the Knicks), I don't see this situation changing. (And even then, the Bucks might just tell Giannis "nope, we can do better elsewhere...so suck it up.") Still, there were rumors of discussions between the two teams this past summer (and nowhere else from my understanding), which is why I bring it up here.

The last two stars who have presented their teams with a one-team list (Dame and Butler) have been traded to another team. One-team lists are counterproductive.

I agree in principle with the bit in bold, but Giannis' relationship with the Bucks can't be compared to especially Butler's with Miami. Dame is closer, but Bucks' management/ownership might feel that they owe Giannis for that championship (and for sticking with them through a bunch of bad decisions). I don't know, and again, I'm not even arguing that a trade will happen. However, I'd bet that the reported "talks" this summer directly touched on the value gap we've been discussing here, and I don't see the Knicks changing (barring some crazy catastrophe this season). And while Giannis is an amazing player, I don't feel that the Knicks should change their stance--on paper we have a contender now, imo.

[raleigh]

Assuming Young and Porzingis are staying in Atlanta in such a deal

Is that a safe assumption regarding Young? It's hard to tell how much of Giannis's comments about being more of a creator and "point forward" are specific to the Bucks' current roster.

[babyjax13]

Assuming Young and Porzingis are staying in Atlanta in such a deal

Is that a safe assumption regarding Young? It's hard to tell how much of Giannis's comments about being more of a creator and "point forward" are specific to the Bucks' current roster.

Maybe it isn't, but I would assume if Young is included as part of a Giannis deal it would be to a third team, or he would be traded separately.

[toooskies]

I posted this to the General Board, but it fits here too.

I personally don't see a trade with us unless Giannis were to 1) demand a trade, and 2) specify that he'd only go to the Knicks. If this were to happen, though, I think the Knicks would offer KAT and one of Bridges/Hart (plus somebody off our bench and whatever frps we have left). In a vacuum, yes, this would be a low ball offer, but the Knicks would have some leverage here.

That will be near impossible to pull off in-season given the salaries involved. The Bucks can't legally send out Giannis and take back almost $90M in salary. Also, the Bucks will want to reroute players the Knicks are offering and the logistics of doing that in season are a nightmare.

KAT to a third team like Charlotte and O.G. to a 4th team like the Kings might work. Add in the Bucks trading Turner to a 5th team and you could return enough in terms of young players and picks.

The Bucks can add Kuzma to Giannis without feeling as though they're sending out additional value. It could be a two-team trade.

The problem is that the pathway to rebuilding after trading Giannis isn't very appealing for Milwaukee. Milwaukee's picks all belong to other teams for a half decade. But they're also under the weight of Dame's dead money, so fielding even a .500 team is going to be hard. Turner might return some value but very little else on the roster will. So you have to turn Turner/KAT/??? into value from all of Atlanta, New Orleans, and Portland to get a real tear-down going, but that'll be rough going too.

[dms269]

I think Atlanta makes the most sense. Assuming Young and Porzingis are staying in Atlanta in such a deal:

Young players with clear value that could be dealt -
Jalen Johnson
Onyeka Okongwu
Zaccharie Risacher
Dyson Daniels
Asa Newell

Rotation players -
Nickeil Alexander-Walker
Luke Kennard

So, easy to assemble salaries with young players and guys who can be flipped.

First round picks -
2026 - ATL/SAS (lower, more swap options on it that likely are not exercised), NOP/MIL (higher)
2027 - NOP/MIL (lower, MIL protected 1-4, if no MIL pick, no pick conveys)
2028 - ATL/CLE/UTA (effectively second most favorable)
2029 - ATL
2030 - ATL
2031 - ATL
2032 - ATL

So, easy to add additional pick value.

I think Johnson has to be included both for value and financial reasons. I would also be asking for Risacher and ATL should give him up if that helps get it over the line. Then picks + filler + other value that can be added. My guess would be:

Johnson
Risacher
Okongwu
Kennard
2026 NOP/MIL 1st (higher)
2027 NOP/MIL 1st (lower)
2028 ATL/CLE/UTA 1st (second best)

for

Giannis
Turner

That gives Milwaukee an actual young core to build around + they recover some of their picks.

Okongwu/Portis/Sims
Johnson/Portis/Smith
Risacher/Prince/Kuzma
KPJ/Kennard/Green
Rollins/Anthony/KPJ

Atlanta would need to rebalance their roster a bit, but they could do that.

Turner/Porzingis
Giannis/Turner/Newell
NAW/Djurisic/Daniels
Daniels/Krejci
Young/Wallace

Court is spread, plenty of perimeter and interior defenders to cover for Young ... just imagine how dangerous their offense could be playing 4 out and spamming PnR with Giannis and Young. Ideally for Atlanta you'd try to keep Risacher and replace him with picks and Newell in the deal, but I don't think you let that stop you from doing a deal.

In regards to the 27 1st, I don't think that Milwaukee is the one that protected it. NO protected 1-4 and if it falls within the range NO keeps both.

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[zimpy27]

Brooklyn is most likely to get Giannis IMO.

They have capspace to bring in a max player in 2026 offseason and Giannis can be traded for with Claxton+rookies+FRPs.

Brooklyn is still New York