Brunson for Giannis

[bkkrh]

What´s the point in trading for Giannis if you lose your current best player in the process? KAT is another story.

[Wolveswin]

What´s the point in trading for Giannis if you lose your current best player in the process? KAT is another story.

Becuse of the lack in draft capital - if that’s what it takes in player capital - do it!

See if McBride is ready to backfill plus MANY ring chasing PGs would flock to a Giannis-Towns-Bridges team in Big Apple.

[dhsilv2]

Giannis wouldn't want to go to the Knicks if Brunson is not on the team.

My first thought as well, but if that's what Giannis is thinking, then I don't think he's learned anything from his inability to synergize with Dame. It doesn't make a lot of sense to go from Dame and then choose to play with someone more ball-dominant and worse at outside shooting.

We all saw how MVP Giannis and Bledsoe worked. Honestly, you'd almost want a Seth Curry over some of these guys...obviously you'd want to get back value as those are way better players in Dame and Brunson but just conceptually he needs sharp shooters who move without the ball.

[Karate Diop]

Knicks would drive Brunson to the airport if Bucks were dumb enough to trade Giannis for him.

Brunson isn't that guy, the amount of people trying to make his guy into Steph Curry is comical

Mans ain't even a Dame.

[JXL]

Knicks would drive Brunson to the airport if Bucks were dumb enough to trade Giannis for him.

Brunson isn't that guy, the amount of people trying to make his guy into Steph Curry is comical

Mans ain't even a Dame.

You're a Nets fan. Go back in your hole. The grown folks are talking.


This is unnecessary. You don't have to post and attack another for their affilation.

-Clav

[mkot]

And defensively its pretty good too, considering Gobert-Towns was excellent.

I'm not so sure about that. Gobert is a DPOY center, Giannis is a 4 and need a rim protecting 5 behind him and KAT is not that.

[pushfloater]

What´s the point in trading for Giannis if you lose your current best player in the process? KAT is another story.

You get a better player (top 3) in return.

[Chuck Everett]

Nah. Brunson is untouchable.

Even in a hypothetical you think that?

Yup. Giannis needs a lot of help to get over the hump. I'd take my chances with the roster I have with Brunson at this point.

[bonita_the_frog]

And defensively its pretty good too, considering Gobert-Towns was excellent.

I'm not so sure about that. Gobert is a DPOY center, Giannis is a 4 and need a rim protecting 5 behind him and KAT is not that.

Yeah Giannis needs to play Center so KAT can stay outside more, if they end up playing together...

[Drakeem]

I mean, don't get me wrong, Giannis is by far the better player and I'm never going to make an argument otherwise. It's just that part of me feels weird that these teams are just shifting around their star pieces constantly to win a title but what it causes is a lack of identity and core to root for as a fan. It's one thing for a team like Toronto to trade DeRozan after close to a decade of things not working out and giving it one last effort before rebuilding, but the Knicks just experienced the most success they've had since the Ewing years. Brunson took a discount for the team to be able to get and retain talent around him. It's a likable team that has a real strong shot for the Finals and once you make it there, who knows? Indiana was one big injury away from maybe being the Champs.

On paper it makes sense to do it, but as a sports fan the NBA turning into NBA 2K My GM on simulation mode feels weird. Selfish maybe, but I want to see long standing teams, rivalries between players and their franchises, etc. Off of basketball, part of what is making this Blue Jays run so great for Toronto fans is that we know we have our franchise face here for most likely his career. As a fan I can build a connection to what's happening. My nephew can buy his jersey and support his favourite player. Sports is inherently illogical (why am I spending my time and these teams spending billions of dollars in salary for people who chuck a ball in a hoop), and it's tougher being a fan when at any moment your team can get completely flipped.

Am I finally getting old?

[zimpy27]

Knicks should have traded Brunson if it gets you Giannis.

I still don't think it would have been enough for Bucks though. They would want a rebuilding package.

[Kent]

Do I think Brunson is physically better than Giannis? No.

But Brunson has "it" and is the driving force and engine for that team.

As constructed, I believe the Knicks have a better shot with Brunson at point versus making it work with Giannis.

So if we aren't considering contracts, the apron, etc. when answering this question, I keep Brunson.

Giannis won a championship and scored 50 in the championship-winning game!
What do you mean Brunson has "it"?
What is it?
Giannis can win a ring with spot-up shooters and great defense, he doesn't even need a star ball-handler...
And Giannis beat the Suns in the 2021 Finals despite Booker 28.2ppg .455fg, and Chris Paul 21.8ppg .550fg!

100% Giannis is that guy.

But as far as fit on the Knicks right now, and the prospect of swapping Brunson straight up, I wouldn't do it.

There's no wrong answer here. This is simply mine.

[bonita_the_frog]

Do I think Brunson is physically better than Giannis? No.

But Brunson has "it" and is the driving force and engine for that team.

As constructed, I believe the Knicks have a better shot with Brunson at point versus making it work with Giannis.

So if we aren't considering contracts, the apron, etc. when answering this question, I keep Brunson.

Giannis won a championship and scored 50 in the championship-winning game!
What do you mean Brunson has "it"?
What is it?
Giannis can win a ring with spot-up shooters and great defense, he doesn't even need a star ball-handler...
And Giannis beat the Suns in the 2021 Finals despite Booker 28.2ppg .455fg, and Chris Paul 21.8ppg .550fg!

100% Giannis is that guy.

But as far as fit on the Knicks right now, and the prospect of swapping Brunson straight up, I wouldn't do it.

There's no wrong answer here. This is simply mine.

Is it because the Knicks don't have enough shooters to surround Giannis with?

[Kent]

Giannis won a championship and scored 50 in the championship-winning game!
What do you mean Brunson has "it"?
What is it?
Giannis can win a ring with spot-up shooters and great defense, he doesn't even need a star ball-handler...
And Giannis beat the Suns in the 2021 Finals despite Booker 28.2ppg .455fg, and Chris Paul 21.8ppg .550fg!

100% Giannis is that guy.

But as far as fit on the Knicks right now, and the prospect of swapping Brunson straight up, I wouldn't do it.

There's no wrong answer here. This is simply mine.

Is it because the Knicks don't have enough shooters to surround Giannis with?

I'd say it has more to do with synergy and how Brunson is the glue that ties everything together.

Giannis is a force, no question about it. But for my tastes, Jalen is the heart that gets the most out of his surrounding cast, letting them do what they do best and ultimately making them shine.

Giannis isn't exactly that, which isn't a knock because he's arguably the best player in the league. But from a roster perspective, I like Brunson over Giannis on this team.

[pieguyxx]

100% Giannis is that guy.

But as far as fit on the Knicks right now, and the prospect of swapping Brunson straight up, I wouldn't do it.

There's no wrong answer here. This is simply mine.

Is it because the Knicks don't have enough shooters to surround Giannis with?

I'd say it has more to do with synergy and how Brunson is the glue that ties everything together.

Giannis is a force, no question about it. But for my tastes, Jalen is the heart that gets the most out of his surrounding cast, letting them do what they do best and ultimately making them shine.

Giannis isn't exactly that, which isn't a knock because he's arguably the best player in the league. But from a roster perspective, I like Brunson over Giannis on this team.

Giannis is a relentless force that requires full attention and wears teams down but even during the championship run he needed Middleton for those clutch buckets as a steady hand in the 4th. I dont really trust anyone on the Knicks more than Brunson for that role. For as much as Brunson turned this franchise around just seems wrong also. I think if Giannis came yes Giannis would be the face but Brunson will always be the captain.

[LarsV8]

Best players for player swaps don't really happen for a number of reasons.

[bkkrh]

What´s the point in trading for Giannis if you lose your current best player in the process? KAT is another story.

You get a better player (top 3) in return.

As pointed out, a 1 for 1 trade wouldn´t be possible salary wise and the Bucks would also not be interested. So it would mean the Knicks needing to add additional players. For Example Brunson and Josh Hart, or Brunson, Mitchell Robinson and Miles McBride. So pretty much any scenario would involve the Knicks giving up Brunson and 1 or 2 of their main rotation players and again I doubt that even then Milwaukee would still be satisfied.

Besides that, Brunson is on by far the best contract of any All NBA level players. With Giannis it would be super difficult to really do much with the rest of the roster, while they still would not be a clear favorite in the East.

Giannis with Brunson, Bridges, OG, Josh Hart & Mitchell Robinson might be the 1st seed in the East.
Giannis with KAT and whoever is left from the rest of the players I´m not so sure about.

[MrBigShot]

He is the heart and soul of the Knicks, they need to pair Giannis WITH him, not trade him.

[DusterBuster]

What´s the point in trading for Giannis if you lose your current best player in the process? KAT is another story.

This is the biggest issue. Brunson for Giannis just makes zero sense from the jump. You also never trade big for small, so the Bucks would be stupid to make this trade. I love Brunson, but Giannis is still the better and more valuable player.

KAT for AG as a baseline to work out from makes most sense for both sides tbh, but the problem still is the Knicks don't have the assets to add enough on top of KAT to make the deal worthwhile for the Bucks.

[mcfly1204]

If I'm the Knicks, absolutely. If I'm the Bucks, absolutely not.