Raps vs Celtics: Preseason - Fri, Oct 10th, 2025 - 7PM EST

[Syd-TK3]

Pritchard on the Mount Rushmore of Raptor killers

lol. it's him, lebron, gerald henderson jr and kobe.

Respect Jeremy Lamb

[GLF]

The problem is 80% of these guys can’t shoot.

That, but more importantly can’t create. When no one can create an advantage you end up taking tougher shots and shots that aren’t in the flow, which leads to more misses. But Mamu being like 0-7 doesn’t help lol

We’re really going to need to stagger the minutes between Barnes/IQ/BI/RJ so that 2 of them are on the floor at all times. I don’t trust any of the bench guys to create good shots for each other.

Darko already said he’s gonna do that during one of the interviews at training camp. Trust me he knows. Our bench will be decent, but anyone who thought they were good enough to do hockey subs is crazy lol

[PhilBlackson]

It’s funny when we traded for IQ & RJ, I didn’t like what I’d seen from him before so I was not that happy about having him…

But I do actually think he’s improved a TON since being here. He’s noticeably improved as a passer, shooter and defender. Obv far from a perfect player but ironically I liked IQ way more in the deal but I’d say RJ has been better and more important to the team so far. I feel like we should find a way to keep him but obv still feels like the team needs another piece. I feel like it’s maybe another somewhat dynamic scorer and/or another solid legit big (but obv we’re hoping Chomche can grow into that).

It's not even close between those two as far as who's been better. RJ has been leaps and bounds better than IQ. The only thing that IQ's defenders can say for him is that he's a decent volume 3pt shooter on a team that needs shooting. Sorry but that's not reason enough to keep him around for me.

Yeah I just don’t even know what the team can do with IQ. I think they got caught up in the excitement of what they thought he’d fit/play like (basically a poormans Maxey), I think they thought he’d be able to score in bunches & knock down 3s. But he hasn’t shown that ability really.

So what is he really offering?! I know he tries defensively but he has limitations because he’s small both height & frame. He’s a solid passer but again nothing exceptional then he’s a fairly average player. He has to show that he’s a bit more dynamic as a shooter this season or idk what we’re gonna do with him.

[djsunyc]

The problem is 80% of these guys can’t shoot.

That, but more importantly can’t create. When no one can create an advantage you end up taking tougher shots and shots that aren’t in the flow, which leads to more misses. But Mamu being like 0-7 doesn’t help lol

i think that's the biggest issue with so much of the roster. ingram may be the only player that can create an advantage off the dribble. nobody can face up and get by anyone or put pressure and collapse the defense and force them to scramble.

[bboyskinnylegs]

nice Mamu

[PhilBlackson]

Our crowd was lifeless.

They need to cheer at something other than just a made bucket.

[Mikistan]

Our crowd is lifeless.

They need to cheer at something other than just a made bucket.

Down 26 in the preseason

[Brinbe]

crafty gradey

[PhilBlackson]

Our crowd is lifeless.

They need to cheer at something other than just a made bucket.

Down 26 in the preseason

They were dead the whole way down lol

[PushDaRock]

I only typed in Lowry, cause they are essentially twins in this case. And i dont care if it is "only" year 5th. I care about progress, and i dont see little to no growth in Barnes game. I hope this year will be different. Dont get me wrong, i want him to succeed, but the notion that is above beeing critized for things he already should have learned is just wrong.

You keep moving the goalposts.

YOU said 5th season for Demar making the playoffs. I simply pointed out Barnes has only played 4 years. That's all.

I agree with you he needs to be better. My opinion hasn't changed as I have continually said, Barnes:

Can't shoot the 3
Can't blow by his man
Doesn’t have a go to move
Is uncoordinated
Etc...

Yet has managed to be a 19-7.5-5.5 guy as well as won ROTY and an All Star while never playing with shooters. And he was deemed furthest away from his prime on draft day. And has taken over 4th quarters.

So the "hope" has been that some of those things possibly got better over time. But it hasn't, on offense. Defensively he has gotten much better.

The one thing I never understood, as a rookie the Raps had him post up at the top of the key with good results. We should all remember him going right after Durant and shooting over him. But then they started moving him around more to try and expand his game when they should have made him a go to bucket at that spot. And it took to last year to try and re-establish scoring from that spot.

We did give him those attempts last year. He was top 15 in the league in terms of FGA between 10-14ft. The issue was that was the only area where he scored at league average efficiency. Another problem is you can’t have a guys offense be built around hitting 12 footers at 48%. It’s pretty much the least valuable type of “good” scoring there is. Doesn’t space the floor for others. Doesn’t draw fouls. It’s just not something you can scale up. 48% from midrange is almost exactly “average” half court offense as far as PPP is concerned. It produces the same points as 32% 3pt shooter. In other words, not great.

It's pretty brutal that the one thing he does above league average and on decent volume is what you don't even want him to be doing much of in the first place.

[C_Money]

Walter showing why he’s with the 3rd stringers in practice.

[dandaman]

Is it too much to ask to not get blown out by Celtics scrubs? Like damn give me something to get excited about

[bboyskinnylegs]

good job Gradey

[bboyskinnylegs]

GRADEY

[Gavin_TDThree]

lol. it's him, lebron, gerald henderson jr and kobe.

hahaha Gerald Henderson was a 25pt+ lock against the raptors for years

I think we gotta put Vince on there too, guy roasted us as a net, alley OOP inbound reverse dunk game winner type ****

That or pony tail guy?

I remember that exact play by VC... burned into my memory.

Pony tail guy... was that Lou Amundson?

Marcin Gortat I remember always looking like prime shaq against us

[PhilBlackson]

Now that was ironically a “soft” foul.

[bboyskinnylegs]

Doug McDermott always had our number too

[Gavin_TDThree]

Doug McDermott always had our number too

good pick

[GoRapstheoriginal]

Ugh this is hard/challenging to watch.

[Reeko]

Dick with the beautiful finish!