Badgers Football - 2025 Season
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I'm still fully behind firing Chryst - he was a total mess at the end. But it really sucks for us that it was 2-3 years too soon for how quickly the NIL landscape changed. We definitely could have, and maybe even would have, done things differently.
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MVP2110 wrote:MickeyDavis wrote:
One of the reasons I was a strong defender for Fickell was his recruiting. Patience was key to allow him to get his guys, etc.
His class this year is worse than nearly all of Chryst's classes. He has 2 4 star guys, 1 of whom seems about to flip to Ohio St. If he cant recruit I'm not sure what else he brings to the table
Either recruits see writing on the wall, which to some degree sucks because Fickell has had the worst luck, even if one believes he sucks…or I guess he’s gearing up to build next year’s team with even more transfers as his last stand if he makes it there.
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Wisky4life wrote:I think with new money coming in. Refresh and restart.
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The money is already spent. He gets it to coach or to go away. His coaching is actively hurting the program at this point. Take the 20% discount to pay him to go away.
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Literally will never be a better day to fire Fickell.
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I can't believe they wouldn't at least be talking about it. I wonder if they're trying to get some ducks in a row first. We have a bit more to plan for than an expected perennial power like Penn State.
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I have to assume they are just waiting for the end of the season to save money on the buyout
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MVP2110 wrote:I have to assume they are just waiting for the end of the season to save money on the buyout
Not the worst schadenfraude to make him eat 6 more losses
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At least we can watch Watt, Chenal, JT, etc on Sundays to remember the Badgers used to have good players.
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I guess letting Fickell run out the clock just to save a couple more bucks on his contract buyout is certainly a choice. I don't know how you pretend to carry yourself as a serious power conference program if you don't fire him after that embarrassment though.
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Ron Swanson wrote:I guess letting Fickell run out the clock just to save a couple more bucks on his contract buyout is certainly a choice. I don't know how you pretend to carry yourself as a serious power conference program if you don't fire him after that embarrassment though.
I think the thing is - in this era, we are not a serious power conference program.
Thanks to the schedule and QB situation, there are 4-6 more embarrassments to suffer through where we can fire him directly after. I think it's a game of chicken right now of Fickell lowering his cost to take him out of his misery vs. UW wanting to move on.
We are not going to be swimming in the waters of elite coaches nor should we be, so I think any time between now and late November works.
If they can save $5 million from the donors by hardballing him that can be used to buy an offensive line within the next few years, great.
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Indiana fired Tom Allen November 29 and hired Cignetti on November 30.
I could be wrong, but I am not sure that there is any school that we're going to want to get in front of here. Penn State will be going after bigger fish.
I'm sure if we want to beat VT/OK State to the punch on anybody we'd be talking to them through backchannels - but my guess is we're going to hire somebody that no other P4 team is fighting over anyways.
There are a handful of younger Fick recruits on the roster that I'd like to keep but it's pretty inconsequential.
If we're stuck with Simmons at QB I can't imagine we'd get a UCLA burst of excitement of the team turning around because the chances of beating 4 out of the final 6 teams on the schedule is less than 1% with Simmons or DO'N.
;tldr - I don't think it matters when they fire him.
I could be wrong, but I am not sure that there is any school that we're going to want to get in front of here. Penn State will be going after bigger fish.
I'm sure if we want to beat VT/OK State to the punch on anybody we'd be talking to them through backchannels - but my guess is we're going to hire somebody that no other P4 team is fighting over anyways.
There are a handful of younger Fick recruits on the roster that I'd like to keep but it's pretty inconsequential.
If we're stuck with Simmons at QB I can't imagine we'd get a UCLA burst of excitement of the team turning around because the chances of beating 4 out of the final 6 teams on the schedule is less than 1% with Simmons or DO'N.
;tldr - I don't think it matters when they fire him.
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Kerb Hohl wrote:Ron Swanson wrote:I guess letting Fickell run out the clock just to save a couple more bucks on his contract buyout is certainly a choice. I don't know how you pretend to carry yourself as a serious power conference program if you don't fire him after that embarrassment though.
I think the thing is - in this era, we are not a serious power conference program.
Thanks to the schedule and QB situation, there are 4-6 more embarrassments to suffer through where we can fire him directly after. I think it's a game of chicken right now of Fickell lowering his cost to take him out of his misery vs. UW wanting to move on.
We are not going to be swimming in the waters of elite coaches nor should we be, so I think any time between now and late November works.
If they can save $5 million from the donors by hardballing him that can be used to buy an offensive line within the next few years, great.
I don’t think the qb situation matters in the grand scheme of things. The entire roster is missing talent.
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tski1972 wrote:Kerb Hohl wrote:Ron Swanson wrote:I guess letting Fickell run out the clock just to save a couple more bucks on his contract buyout is certainly a choice. I don't know how you pretend to carry yourself as a serious power conference program if you don't fire him after that embarrassment though.
I think the thing is - in this era, we are not a serious power conference program.
Thanks to the schedule and QB situation, there are 4-6 more embarrassments to suffer through where we can fire him directly after. I think it's a game of chicken right now of Fickell lowering his cost to take him out of his misery vs. UW wanting to move on.
We are not going to be swimming in the waters of elite coaches nor should we be, so I think any time between now and late November works.
If they can save $5 million from the donors by hardballing him that can be used to buy an offensive line within the next few years, great.
I don’t think the qb situation matters in the grand scheme of things. The entire roster is missing talent.
Sure, and that's why I'm fine with him being fired.
I still do think he may have been able to get momentum going with a healthy QB at some point in the past 3 years.
As it stands now, I was saying that UCLA fired their coach and they have a high-paid QB that is helping them turn the tides and provide some excitement.
Even if Fickell was fired today and the team suddenly took a major turn under an interim coach, the odds of them beating OSU or Oregon with a guy at QB that was fighting for a job at Southern Illinois last year...just not happening. They are just beyond dead thanks to that.
I think Danny O'Neil may have asked to be benched so he can stay healthy for another season elsewhere and retain a redshirt. He's only appeared in 4 games, though he may have been in for a snap against Michigan?