thelead wrote:How long before we see a 'Start Jase' thread? I really think this kid has a great chance to be special
The Magic may be the only team in the NBA a 6’1” shooting guard could start at point guard.
But that’s why they drafted him.
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thelead wrote:How long before we see a 'Start Jase' thread? I really think this kid has a great chance to be special
Knightro wrote:thelead wrote:How long before we see a 'Start Jase' thread? I really think this kid has a great chance to be special
The Magic may be the only team in the NBA a 6’1” shooting guard could start at point guard.
But that’s why they drafted him.
BCS wrote:I hope Mose realizes that Tyus is just not a good fit with the starters already. He was brought here for the 2nd unit and to mentor our young guards. I am hoping to see Jase start next game and have Tyus play with whom he will be playing the most with.
I actually found it odd, that Tyus was chosen to start instead of Jase as Mose does not like to mess with the 2nd unit when there are injuries to the starters and usually brings the 3rd stringer to start instead (what he did with Goga, Cory and Caleb). Maybe Jase already took Tyus spot in the 2nd unit. Tyus will get the Cory Joseph role. I'd be very surprised if that is how they role to start the season already, but maybe they trust Jase that much already that once Suggs comes back, as long as Jase is balling, Tyus becomes the 3rd stringer, you can only hope, lol.
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BCS wrote:I hope Mose realizes that Tyus is just not a good fit with the starters already. He was brought here for the 2nd unit and to mentor our young guards. I am hoping to see Jase start next game and have Tyus play with whom he will be playing the most with.
I actually found it odd, that Tyus was chosen to start instead of Jase as Mose does not like to mess with the 2nd unit when there are injuries to the starters and usually brings the 3rd stringer to start instead (what he did with Goga, Cory and Caleb). Maybe Jase already took Tyus spot in the 2nd unit. Tyus will get the Cory Joseph role. I'd be very surprised if that is how they role to start the season already, but maybe they trust Jase that much already that once Suggs comes back, as long as Jase is balling, Tyus becomes the 3rd stringer, you can only hope, lol.
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VFX wrote:BCS wrote:I hope Mose realizes that Tyus is just not a good fit with the starters already. He was brought here for the 2nd unit and to mentor our young guards. I am hoping to see Jase start next game and have Tyus play with whom he will be playing the most with.
I actually found it odd, that Tyus was chosen to start instead of Jase as Mose does not like to mess with the 2nd unit when there are injuries to the starters and usually brings the 3rd stringer to start instead (what he did with Goga, Cory and Caleb). Maybe Jase already took Tyus spot in the 2nd unit. Tyus will get the Cory Joseph role. I'd be very surprised if that is how they role to start the season already, but maybe they trust Jase that much already that once Suggs comes back, as long as Jase is balling, Tyus becomes the 3rd stringer, you can only hope, lol.
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Rookies usually suck. Period.
Tyus is here for one season with Jase under his wing. Thats why he was brought in.
AB doesn’t do anything “point guard” related and is basically a “2/3” defender at this point.
People in this thread seem to forget Suggs is the defacto point guard on this roster unless he is to miss games, which isn’t out of the realm of possibility.
AB and Jase are nowhere near the stability of Tyus at point this season. Next season maybe for Jase. If management believed otherwise, then he wouldn’t have been signed.
This narrative will need to die in preseason please so there aren’t 30 threads to be expected talking about it in the future.
VFX wrote:BCS wrote:I hope Mose realizes that Tyus is just not a good fit with the starters already. He was brought here for the 2nd unit and to mentor our young guards. I am hoping to see Jase start next game and have Tyus play with whom he will be playing the most with.
I actually found it odd, that Tyus was chosen to start instead of Jase as Mose does not like to mess with the 2nd unit when there are injuries to the starters and usually brings the 3rd stringer to start instead (what he did with Goga, Cory and Caleb). Maybe Jase already took Tyus spot in the 2nd unit. Tyus will get the Cory Joseph role. I'd be very surprised if that is how they role to start the season already, but maybe they trust Jase that much already that once Suggs comes back, as long as Jase is balling, Tyus becomes the 3rd stringer, you can only hope, lol.
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Rookies usually suck. Period.
Tyus is here for one season with Jase under his wing. Thats why he was brought in.
AB doesn’t do anything “point guard” related and is basically a “2/3” defender at this point.
People in this thread seem to forget Suggs is the defacto point guard on this roster unless he is to miss games, which isn’t out of the realm of possibility.
AB and Jase are nowhere near the stability of Tyus at point this season. Next season maybe for Jase. If management believed otherwise, then he wouldn’t have been signed.
This narrative will need to die in preseason please so there aren’t 30 threads to be expected talking about it in the future.
Knightro wrote:eyriq wrote:Orlando Dawg wrote:So far Bane is not any better than Pope but it’s only 2 preseason games
Bane looks amazing imo.
I think Bane looks great as well. He's got way more juice than I even realized as a slasher and passer, and I thought he had a lot!
eyriq wrote:VFX wrote:BCS wrote:I hope Mose realizes that Tyus is just not a good fit with the starters already. He was brought here for the 2nd unit and to mentor our young guards. I am hoping to see Jase start next game and have Tyus play with whom he will be playing the most with.
I actually found it odd, that Tyus was chosen to start instead of Jase as Mose does not like to mess with the 2nd unit when there are injuries to the starters and usually brings the 3rd stringer to start instead (what he did with Goga, Cory and Caleb). Maybe Jase already took Tyus spot in the 2nd unit. Tyus will get the Cory Joseph role. I'd be very surprised if that is how they role to start the season already, but maybe they trust Jase that much already that once Suggs comes back, as long as Jase is balling, Tyus becomes the 3rd stringer, you can only hope, lol.
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Rookies usually suck. Period.
Tyus is here for one season with Jase under his wing. Thats why he was brought in.
AB doesn’t do anything “point guard” related and is basically a “2/3” defender at this point.
People in this thread seem to forget Suggs is the defacto point guard on this roster unless he is to miss games, which isn’t out of the realm of possibility.
AB and Jase are nowhere near the stability of Tyus at point this season. Next season maybe for Jase. If management believed otherwise, then he wouldn’t have been signed.
This narrative will need to die in preseason please so there aren’t 30 threads to be expected talking about it in the future.
In college, Anthony Black earned the title of best NCAA point guard in his draft class by doing the things that actually matter: dominating minutes, initiating offense, defending the point, and drawing fouls, and none of his peers matched that blend. He was a true lead guard at Arkansas who played heavy minutes, broke freshman records, and carried real two-way responsibility. Orlando didn’t bring in Tyus to block his path; they brought him in to steady the ship this season while Black develops. Already in camp and early games, AB is running offense, making reads, defending top assignments, and showing progress as a shooter. His trajectory looks exactly like what you want from a young lead guard learning under control, and every indicator points to him being Orlando’s point guard of the future, not just a project waiting for minutes.
T-Cat wrote:I'm so excited for Jase Richardson, I'm excited about his upside with this team! He plays with so much poise and confidence! The best Magic Draft pick since, Dwight Howard![]()
eyriq wrote:VFX wrote:BCS wrote:I hope Mose realizes that Tyus is just not a good fit with the starters already. He was brought here for the 2nd unit and to mentor our young guards. I am hoping to see Jase start next game and have Tyus play with whom he will be playing the most with.
I actually found it odd, that Tyus was chosen to start instead of Jase as Mose does not like to mess with the 2nd unit when there are injuries to the starters and usually brings the 3rd stringer to start instead (what he did with Goga, Cory and Caleb). Maybe Jase already took Tyus spot in the 2nd unit. Tyus will get the Cory Joseph role. I'd be very surprised if that is how they role to start the season already, but maybe they trust Jase that much already that once Suggs comes back, as long as Jase is balling, Tyus becomes the 3rd stringer, you can only hope, lol.
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Rookies usually suck. Period.
Tyus is here for one season with Jase under his wing. Thats why he was brought in.
AB doesn’t do anything “point guard” related and is basically a “2/3” defender at this point.
People in this thread seem to forget Suggs is the defacto point guard on this roster unless he is to miss games, which isn’t out of the realm of possibility.
AB and Jase are nowhere near the stability of Tyus at point this season. Next season maybe for Jase. If management believed otherwise, then he wouldn’t have been signed.
This narrative will need to die in preseason please so there aren’t 30 threads to be expected talking about it in the future.
In college, Anthony Black earned the title of best NCAA point guard in his draft class by doing the things that actually matter: dominating minutes, initiating offense, defending the point, and drawing fouls, and none of his peers matched that blend. He was a true lead guard at Arkansas who played heavy minutes, broke freshman records, and carried real two-way responsibility. Orlando didn’t bring in Tyus to block his path; they brought him in to steady the ship this season while Black develops. Already in camp and early games, AB is running offense, making reads, defending top assignments, and showing progress as a shooter. His trajectory looks exactly like what you want from a young lead guard learning under control, and every indicator points to him being Orlando’s point guard of the future, not just a project waiting for minutes.
jezzerinho wrote:eyriq wrote:VFX wrote:
Rookies usually suck. Period.
Tyus is here for one season with Jase under his wing. Thats why he was brought in.
AB doesn’t do anything “point guard” related and is basically a “2/3” defender at this point.
People in this thread seem to forget Suggs is the defacto point guard on this roster unless he is to miss games, which isn’t out of the realm of possibility.
AB and Jase are nowhere near the stability of Tyus at point this season. Next season maybe for Jase. If management believed otherwise, then he wouldn’t have been signed.
This narrative will need to die in preseason please so there aren’t 30 threads to be expected talking about it in the future.
In college, Anthony Black earned the title of best NCAA point guard in his draft class by doing the things that actually matter: dominating minutes, initiating offense, defending the point, and drawing fouls, and none of his peers matched that blend. He was a true lead guard at Arkansas who played heavy minutes, broke freshman records, and carried real two-way responsibility. Orlando didn’t bring in Tyus to block his path; they brought him in to steady the ship this season while Black develops. Already in camp and early games, AB is running offense, making reads, defending top assignments, and showing progress as a shooter. His trajectory looks exactly like what you want from a young lead guard learning under control, and every indicator points to him being Orlando’s point guard of the future, not just a project waiting for minutes.
AB was 3rd in usage at Arkansas, behind Nick Smith Jr who got 5 mins a game for the Lakers last year and behind Ricky Council IV, who is an unsigned FA having been cut by the Sixers.
Arkansas played a committee approach to ball handling, in which Black was 3rd banana.He wasnt their go-to initiator and he wasnt a "true lead guard". Like Council (who I rated coming out) he was a swiss army guy for the Razorbacks, but with more defensive responsibility than Smith Jr or Council IV.
Still presenting opinion as fact and still making statements that evidence doesnt back up...
AB is a good player. But your fervent desire for him to be something he has never been so far, is unlikely on its own to make it happen.
eyriq wrote:VFX wrote:BCS wrote:I hope Mose realizes that Tyus is just not a good fit with the starters already. He was brought here for the 2nd unit and to mentor our young guards. I am hoping to see Jase start next game and have Tyus play with whom he will be playing the most with.
I actually found it odd, that Tyus was chosen to start instead of Jase as Mose does not like to mess with the 2nd unit when there are injuries to the starters and usually brings the 3rd stringer to start instead (what he did with Goga, Cory and Caleb). Maybe Jase already took Tyus spot in the 2nd unit. Tyus will get the Cory Joseph role. I'd be very surprised if that is how they role to start the season already, but maybe they trust Jase that much already that once Suggs comes back, as long as Jase is balling, Tyus becomes the 3rd stringer, you can only hope, lol.
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Rookies usually suck. Period.
Tyus is here for one season with Jase under his wing. Thats why he was brought in.
AB doesn’t do anything “point guard” related and is basically a “2/3” defender at this point.
People in this thread seem to forget Suggs is the defacto point guard on this roster unless he is to miss games, which isn’t out of the realm of possibility.
AB and Jase are nowhere near the stability of Tyus at point this season. Next season maybe for Jase. If management believed otherwise, then he wouldn’t have been signed.
This narrative will need to die in preseason please so there aren’t 30 threads to be expected talking about it in the future.
In college, Anthony Black earned the title of best NCAA point guard in his draft class by doing the things that actually matter: dominating minutes, initiating offense, defending the point, and drawing fouls, and none of his peers matched that blend. He was a true lead guard at Arkansas who played heavy minutes, broke freshman records, and carried real two-way responsibility.
jezzerinho wrote:eyriq wrote:VFX wrote:
Rookies usually suck. Period.
Tyus is here for one season with Jase under his wing. Thats why he was brought in.
AB doesn’t do anything “point guard” related and is basically a “2/3” defender at this point.
People in this thread seem to forget Suggs is the defacto point guard on this roster unless he is to miss games, which isn’t out of the realm of possibility.
AB and Jase are nowhere near the stability of Tyus at point this season. Next season maybe for Jase. If management believed otherwise, then he wouldn’t have been signed.
This narrative will need to die in preseason please so there aren’t 30 threads to be expected talking about it in the future.
In college, Anthony Black earned the title of best NCAA point guard in his draft class by doing the things that actually matter: dominating minutes, initiating offense, defending the point, and drawing fouls, and none of his peers matched that blend. He was a true lead guard at Arkansas who played heavy minutes, broke freshman records, and carried real two-way responsibility. Orlando didn’t bring in Tyus to block his path; they brought him in to steady the ship this season while Black develops. Already in camp and early games, AB is running offense, making reads, defending top assignments, and showing progress as a shooter. His trajectory looks exactly like what you want from a young lead guard learning under control, and every indicator points to him being Orlando’s point guard of the future, not just a project waiting for minutes.
AB was 3rd in usage at Arkansas, behind Nick Smith Jr who got 5 mins a game for the Lakers last year and behind Ricky Council IV, who is an unsigned FA having been cut by the Sixers.
Arkansas played a committee approach to ball handling, in which Black was 3rd banana.He wasnt their go-to initiator and he wasnt a "true lead guard". Like Council (who I rated coming out) he was a swiss army guy for the Razorbacks, but with more defensive responsibility than Smith Jr or Council IV.
Still presenting opinion as fact and still making statements that evidence doesnt back up...
AB is a good player. But your fervent desire for him to be something he has never been so far, is unlikely on its own to make it happen.
RookieStar wrote:Kinda OT
You guys visit reddit? They showed a clip of a PHI fan(probably) front row seats begging Paolo to score 2 more points and Paolo told him he is addicted or something. So I guess gambling related? Sheeeeeesh what is happening with you guys there. LOL
ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:RookieStar wrote:Kinda OT
You guys visit reddit? They showed a clip of a PHI fan(probably) front row seats begging Paolo to score 2 more points and Paolo told him he is addicted or something. So I guess gambling related? Sheeeeeesh what is happening with you guys there. LOL
He’s right and gambling has gotten so out of hand. They bet on everything, even general elections.
VFX wrote:eyriq wrote:VFX wrote:
Rookies usually suck. Period.
Tyus is here for one season with Jase under his wing. Thats why he was brought in.
AB doesn’t do anything “point guard” related and is basically a “2/3” defender at this point.
People in this thread seem to forget Suggs is the defacto point guard on this roster unless he is to miss games, which isn’t out of the realm of possibility.
AB and Jase are nowhere near the stability of Tyus at point this season. Next season maybe for Jase. If management believed otherwise, then he wouldn’t have been signed.
This narrative will need to die in preseason please so there aren’t 30 threads to be expected talking about it in the future.
In college, Anthony Black earned the title of best NCAA point guard in his draft class by doing the things that actually matter: dominating minutes, initiating offense, defending the point, and drawing fouls, and none of his peers matched that blend. He was a true lead guard at Arkansas who played heavy minutes, broke freshman records, and carried real two-way responsibility. Orlando didn’t bring in Tyus to block his path; they brought him in to steady the ship this season while Black develops. Already in camp and early games, AB is running offense, making reads, defending top assignments, and showing progress as a shooter. His trajectory looks exactly like what you want from a young lead guard learning under control, and every indicator points to him being Orlando’s point guard of the future, not just a project waiting for minutes.
I’m not going to argue with you because frankly it doesn’t matter at all. Not worth it.
Tyus Jones has been consistently at the top of metrics in a/to and point guard skillset in recent history.
Jalen Suggs is starting on this team until he is moved or on the bench due to injury.
Jase Richardson is a 6’1 combo guard drafted after Orlando spent 4 firsts on a premier shooting guard.
Those are the facts. Take with that information what you must. Spin AB as a point guard however you’d like with that info. I frankly don’t care either way.
Arkansas didn’t hide Anthony Black; they leaned on him to run a balanced offense. He led the team and SEC in minutes, started all 36 games, was top five in the SEC in assists, set the Arkansas freshman records for steals and free-throw attempts, and handled primary creation even when Nick Smith Jr. was available. Smith missed large chunks of the season, and Ricky Council IV was the leading scorer and foul-drawer but more of a finisher with modest assists, which fits a lineup where Black initiates and others cash in. Eric Musselman literally framed Black as the quarterback, which is exactly how Orlando is using him now: big, unselfish, two-way guard who controls tempo, makes the next read, takes top perimeter assignments, and is nudging the jumper forward. That is a true lead-guard profile, and it explains why his trajectory tracks as Orlando’s point guard of the future, while Tyus stabilizes the present.jezzerinho wrote:eyriq wrote:VFX wrote:
Rookies usually suck. Period.
Tyus is here for one season with Jase under his wing. Thats why he was brought in.
AB doesn’t do anything “point guard” related and is basically a “2/3” defender at this point.
People in this thread seem to forget Suggs is the defacto point guard on this roster unless he is to miss games, which isn’t out of the realm of possibility.
AB and Jase are nowhere near the stability of Tyus at point this season. Next season maybe for Jase. If management believed otherwise, then he wouldn’t have been signed.
This narrative will need to die in preseason please so there aren’t 30 threads to be expected talking about it in the future.
In college, Anthony Black earned the title of best NCAA point guard in his draft class by doing the things that actually matter: dominating minutes, initiating offense, defending the point, and drawing fouls, and none of his peers matched that blend. He was a true lead guard at Arkansas who played heavy minutes, broke freshman records, and carried real two-way responsibility. Orlando didn’t bring in Tyus to block his path; they brought him in to steady the ship this season while Black develops. Already in camp and early games, AB is running offense, making reads, defending top assignments, and showing progress as a shooter. His trajectory looks exactly like what you want from a young lead guard learning under control, and every indicator points to him being Orlando’s point guard of the future, not just a project waiting for minutes.
AB was 3rd in usage at Arkansas, behind Nick Smith Jr who got 5 mins a game for the Lakers last year and behind Ricky Council IV, who is an unsigned FA having been cut by the Sixers.
Arkansas played a committee approach to ball handling, in which Black was 3rd banana.He wasnt their go-to initiator and he wasnt a "true lead guard". Like Council (who I rated coming out) he was a swiss army guy for the Razorbacks, but with more defensive responsibility than Smith Jr or Council IV.
Still presenting opinion as fact and still making statements that evidence doesnt back up...
AB is a good player. But your fervent desire for him to be something he has never been so far, is unlikely on its own to make it happen.