ALCS Game 1 - Seattle Mariners @ Toronto Blue Jays, Sunday October 12, 2025, 8:03 PM

[Potential]

Idk why he would even try esp after seeing that YouTube video someone posted of the doctor explaining why he won't be back and it could take 13 weeks

[Randle McMurphy]

Idk why he would even try esp after seeing that YouTube video someone posted of the doctor explaining why he won't be back and it could take 13 weeks

Could be one of the few opportunities in his career to play an ALCS, he wanted to take the risk

I would expect he’s played his last game as a Jay now

[Randle McMurphy]

Why did he have to run so hard to possibly aggravate it more..all that's needed from him is hits and jogging to first, not flying to second, especially with runners on base, already..him safe at first is enough..his rbi potential is needed..if no one on base, then a pinch runner can replace him if he gets on..that video shows an all out aggressive run, when his hot bat is needed more that his aggressive running

You can’t just jog around playing baseball, a situation could dictate more than that

They needed to know whether he could actually run the bases and now they know he can’t

[Raps in 4]

It's okay, Bo would have choked under pressure anyway. We don't need him.

[Michael Bradley]

Idk why he would even try esp after seeing that YouTube video someone posted of the doctor explaining why he won't be back and it could take 13 weeks

Could be one of the few opportunities in his career to play an ALCS, he wanted to take the risk

I would expect he’s played his last game as a Jay now

Feels like Bo is the type who could still be available in February because he's not getting the contract he wants (QO, coming off injury, horrid defensively). There might be a path to him coming back. Whether the Jays pull a Kendrys Morales and move on to avoid a reunion is the question.

[Randle McMurphy]

Idk why he would even try esp after seeing that YouTube video someone posted of the doctor explaining why he won't be back and it could take 13 weeks

Could be one of the few opportunities in his career to play an ALCS, he wanted to take the risk

I would expect he’s played his last game as a Jay now

Feels like Bo is the type who could still be available in February because he's not getting the contract he wants (QO, coming off injury, horrid defensively). There might be a path to him coming back. Whether the Jays pull a Kendrys Morales and move on to avoid a reunion is the question.

With his knee being messed up and being the worst defensive shortstop in baseball by a mile even before that, it’s a pretty interesting free agency to watch.

Still don’t think the Jays have any intention of paying Bo as a shortstop going forward though.

[Chris7711]

Why did he have to run so hard to possibly aggravate it more..all that's needed from him is hits and jogging to first, not flying to second, especially with runners on base, already..him safe at first is enough..his rbi potential is needed..if no one on base, then a pinch runner can replace him if he gets on..that video shows an all out aggressive run, when his hot bat is needed more that his aggressive running

You can’t just jog around playing baseball, a situation could dictate more than that

They needed to know whether he could actually run the bases and now they know he can’t

Obviously, you did not carefully read my post

[Randle McMurphy]

Why did he have to run so hard to possibly aggravate it more..all that's needed from him is hits and jogging to first, not flying to second, especially with runners on base, already..him safe at first is enough..his rbi potential is needed..if no one on base, then a pinch runner can replace him if he gets on..that video shows an all out aggressive run, when his hot bat is needed more that his aggressive running

You can’t just jog around playing baseball, a situation could dictate more than that

They needed to know whether he could actually run the bases and now they know he can’t

Obviously, you did not carefully read my post

Baseball players have to be able to run to play baseball

[Raps in 4]

Could be one of the few opportunities in his career to play an ALCS, he wanted to take the risk

I would expect he’s played his last game as a Jay now

Feels like Bo is the type who could still be available in February because he's not getting the contract he wants (QO, coming off injury, horrid defensively). There might be a path to him coming back. Whether the Jays pull a Kendrys Morales and move on to avoid a reunion is the question.

With his knee being messed up and being the worst defensive shortstop in baseball by a mile even before that, it’s a pretty interesting free agency to watch.

Still don’t think the Jays have any intention of paying Bo as a shortstop going forward though.

I just hope we don't find ourselves in another Semien situation where we let a 6 WAR (in this case, 4 WAR) player walk and then not replace his production, while still hoping to compete.

[Chris7711]

You can’t just jog around playing baseball, a situation could dictate more than that

They needed to know whether he could actually run the bases and now they know he can’t

Obviously, you did not carefully read my post

Baseball players have to be able to run to play baseball

He is able to run...I remember kirk Gibson limped to the plate and hit a game winning hr..obviously, he could not run according to you, but his bat mattered according to his manager..bo can run to first, then pinch runner can come on..if there are runners on base, they can also score ...he can take first base, easily on long singles, but more importantly runners can score

[Mehar]

Idk why he would even try esp after seeing that YouTube video someone posted of the doctor explaining why he won't be back and it could take 13 weeks

Could be one of the few opportunities in his career to play an ALCS, he wanted to take the risk

I would expect he’s played his last game as a Jay now

Feels like Bo is the type who could still be available in February because he's not getting the contract he wants (QO, coming off injury, horrid defensively). There might be a path to him coming back. Whether the Jays pull a Kendrys Morales and move on to avoid a reunion is the question.

No, I think there are desperate teams that are looking for hitters in free agency like Detroit, who will throw big money at him and the Jays will and should pass. At one point in the summer, I was in favour of the Jays doing what they can to keep Bo. However, I had a change of heart since then and feel that the Jays could spend that money more wisely (With the Roughly 75 million they will have to play with saying goodbye to Bo, Scherzer, Bassitt, Chad Green's contract, Swanson's deal, and even Bieber).

In the off-season, the Jays should prioritize on getting another elite arm in the Bullpen to close games in the 9th, along with another Front Line Starter in the rotation. Another fourth Starter like an Adrian Houser in free agency is another guy this team should seriously look at acquiring. Realistically, when you have Gimenez being paid 15 Million next year, and 71.5 million for three years (2027 to 2029), I think that was a message right there that the Jays will move on from Bo.

If Gimenez was not being paid the crazy amount he is for being Ryan Goins 2.0, then maybe this team should have made more of an effort to bring back Bo. However, right now paying Bo might not be the best course of action when you have Gimenez tied up for 4 more seasons at his price tag. In addition, seeing how Bo is apparently made out of glass injuring his knee on a bad slide, already being a slow runner on the basepaths, not being a good defender at SS, and who just one year ago was terrible in 2024 offensively and defensively (-0.3 WAR); I think it is time for both sides to move on in free agency.

[Randle McMurphy]

Obviously, you did not carefully read my post

Baseball players have to be able to run to play baseball

He is able to run...I remember kirk Gibson limped to the plate and hit a game winning hr..obviously, he could not run according to you, but his bat mattered according to his manager..bo can run to first, then pinch runner can come on..if there are runners on base, they can also score ...he can take first base, easily on long singles, but more importantly runners can score

Bichette is playing for potentially hundreds of millions of dollars in his free agency, he’s not gonna “Kirk Gibson” it around the field and destroy his knee completely lol

[Randle McMurphy]

Feels like Bo is the type who could still be available in February because he's not getting the contract he wants (QO, coming off injury, horrid defensively). There might be a path to him coming back. Whether the Jays pull a Kendrys Morales and move on to avoid a reunion is the question.

With his knee being messed up and being the worst defensive shortstop in baseball by a mile even before that, it’s a pretty interesting free agency to watch.

Still don’t think the Jays have any intention of paying Bo as a shortstop going forward though.

I just hope we don't find ourselves in another Semien situation where we let a 6 WAR (in this case, 4 WAR) player walk and then not replace his production, while still hoping to compete.

Gimenez will be a valuable SS whether he hits or not and they can replace the offense in other ways

If Bo wants to take a short term deal to play 2B though I’d be happy to bring him back

[TOStateofMind]

what a shame about bo

guys have stepped up all year so hopefully it will continue this series

[Chris7711]

Baseball players have to be able to run to play baseball

He is able to run...I remember kirk Gibson limped to the plate and hit a game winning hr..obviously, he could not run according to you, but his bat mattered according to his manager..bo can run to first, then pinch runner can come on..if there are runners on base, they can also score ...he can take first base, easily on long singles, but more importantly runners can score

Bichette is playing for potentially hundreds of millions of dollars in his free agency, he’s not gonna “Kirk Gibson” it around the field and destroy his knee completely lol

Then why did he run at full speed..who said to run around the field. You just like to argue and make senseless comments, with zero understanding of other people's comments..you twist comments ..its obvious to everyone else that he wants to play, except to you and your hundred million dollar reasoning

[JN]

[quote="Mehar"]

No, I think there are desperate teams that are looking for hitters in free agency like Detroit, who will throw big money at him and the Jays will and should pass. At one point in the summer, I was in favour of the Jays doing what they can to keep Bo. However, I had a change of heart since then and feel that the Jays could spend that money more wisely (With the Roughly 75 million they will have to play with saying goodbye to Bo, Scherzer, Bassitt, Chad Green's contract, Swanson's deal, and even Bieber).
/quote]

Unless they are planning on a $40m increase in payroll, they will not have 75 million to play with. Its because the salary for the players coming back is going up $40-45million. Now I do hope with the financial success of the season the Jays increase their payroll from 2025 by at least $20Million. So that we would have somewhere closer to $55m to $60m to spend.

I did an analysis in the "off-season thread" last week. There will be increases in salary of about $43 million related to those who stick with the Jays.

Here are the largest increases making up the $43m
Kirk - $4m increase
Clement - $3m
Guerrero - $12m
Gimenez - $5m
Santander - $3m
Varsho - $6m (arb guess)
Hoffman - $4.5m
Lauer - $3m

I'd rather this team spends its money on starting pitching doesn't spend much on the pen.

We have plenty of potential arms in the pen next year, even if not at closer. Our bullpen is in the bench shape in a while going into a offseason.
Hoffman
Varland
Fisher
Rodriguez
Little
Fluharty
Garcia
Sandlin
Nance

And if Hoffman struggles, hopefully one of the others steps up. And if needed you add one at the deadline.

[Madvillainy2004]

If were spending 100s of millions on a player this FA the only guy id consider is Kyle Tucker. But realistically we should go for pitching and honestly id do whatever it takes to get Joe Ryan from Minny.

[Mehar]

If were spending 100s of millions on a player this FA the only guy id consider is Kyle Tucker. But realistically we should go for pitching and honestly id do whatever it takes to get Joe Ryan from Minny.

Kyle Tucker is looking at a 350 to 400 million dollar contract. I doubt the Jays will go in that direction with Santander on the books for the next 4 seasons also, counted on to play RF. With the money the Jays will have to play with, a front line Starter is what they should pursue. Joe Ryan makes sense.

As a 4th Starter, a guy like Adrian Houser as a free agent makes sense also. Starting Pitching and another elite arm out of the bullpen should be the priority.

[JCP11]

I love Bo but here's the harsh reality: our defense is considerably better without him. His bat is missed but when you score 34 pts pts in the Yankees series you don't even notice his absence. If Santander continues to get better and starts to hit like we know he can then the Jays won't miss him at all. The offense is deep enough to produce a ton of runs without him.

Like many have said he's probably played his last game as a Jay.

[SharoneWright]

So fat though.