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Post#281 » by Super Cooper » Sat Oct 4, 2025 5:45 pm

Super Cooper wrote:Dyson Daniels... IMO is the ideal guard next to Kyrie. At 22yo he fits the Cooper timeline. I know ATL isn't itching to move the 1st team all defense, but what if/when KP gets hurt? Gaff plus picks?


That's probably lite. DLive + '29FRP works. Would you do it?
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Super Cooper wrote:Dyson Daniels... IMO is the ideal guard next to Kyrie. At 22yo he fits the Cooper timeline. I know ATL isn't itching to move the 1st team all defense, but what if/when KP gets hurt? Gaff plus picks?


That's probably lite. DLive + '29FRP works. Would you do it?


Not even close.
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Post#283 » by Mavrelous » Sun Oct 5, 2025 12:45 pm

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Super Cooper wrote:Dyson Daniels... IMO is the ideal guard next to Kyrie. At 22yo he fits the Cooper timeline. I know ATL isn't itching to move the 1st team all defense, but what if/when KP gets hurt? Gaff plus picks?


That's probably lite. DLive + '29FRP works. Would you do it?


Wouldn't trade DLive alone for him...
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Post#284 » by 41Dirk41 » Sun Oct 5, 2025 2:31 pm

Another 35 games season from Lively and he will be a great bust.
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Post#285 » by Super Cooper » Sun Oct 5, 2025 7:24 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
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Super Cooper wrote:Dyson Daniels... IMO is the ideal guard next to Kyrie. At 22yo he fits the Cooper timeline. I know ATL isn't itching to move the 1st team all defense, but what if/when KP gets hurt? Gaff plus picks?


That's probably lite. DLive + '29FRP works. Would you do it?


Not even close.



What do you think it'd take?
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Post#286 » by 41Dirk41 » Sun Oct 5, 2025 8:59 pm

Super Cooper wrote:
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That's probably lite. DLive + '29FRP works. Would you do it?


Not even close.



What do you think it'd take?


I think Atlanta will not trade him unless an Hallelujah offer... and Lively is just a 8+7 guy who can't stay on the floor right now.
I don't think we have the assets for him (Coop is untouchable of course), maybe something including street clothes and filler for DD+picks+filler but i don't think someone really want a fat always injuried player with a superstar contract.

Lively has more value for the Mavs fans than other team GMs probably.
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Post#287 » by Super Cooper » Wed Oct 8, 2025 3:08 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:
Super Cooper wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Not even close.



What do you think it'd take?


I think Atlanta will not trade him unless an Hallelujah offer... and Lively is just a 8+7 guy who can't stay on the floor right now.
I don't think we have the assets for him (Coop is untouchable of course), maybe something including street clothes and filler for DD+picks+filler but i don't think someone really want a fat always injuried player with a superstar contract.

Lively has more value for the Mavs fans than other team GMs probably.


There's definitely not a deal there to be made directly with ATL, unless KP has a season-ending injury, would need at least another team to send AD to. Question is what team would give up equal value for AD, with the most valuable piece going to ATL. I don't think there's one there right now, but will with injuries, etc.
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Post#288 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Oct 8, 2025 4:45 pm

Super Cooper wrote:
41Dirk41 wrote:
Super Cooper wrote:

What do you think it'd take?


I think Atlanta will not trade him unless an Hallelujah offer... and Lively is just a 8+7 guy who can't stay on the floor right now.
I don't think we have the assets for him (Coop is untouchable of course), maybe something including street clothes and filler for DD+picks+filler but i don't think someone really want a fat always injuried player with a superstar contract.

Lively has more value for the Mavs fans than other team GMs probably.


There's definitely not a deal there to be made directly with ATL, unless KP has a season-ending injury, would need at least another team to send AD to. Question is what team would give up equal value for AD, with the most valuable piece going to ATL. I don't think there's one there right now, but will with injuries, etc.


Yes, there isn't.
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Post#289 » by ACMFFL » Sun Oct 12, 2025 12:14 pm

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ACMFFL wrote:but in my opinion it's sad to see basically all the fanbase making fun of him without even bothering to know why he put on weight.

Don't really care, he should have been more responssible, especially inisisting he wants to play PF.
He's had 3 serious injuries this calendar year, and we still have 3 months to go, asking him to not come in at 270 isn't much.
P.S. Bob didn't like criticizing Luka at the beginning of last season, but the board has been very critical of him, and Luka earned million times the credit AD earned.


It's totally irrelevant what the rest of the board were saying, I was talking about Bob hypocrisy.
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Post#290 » by ACMFFL » Sun Oct 12, 2025 12:23 pm

Archx wrote:
"It looks like some of us will never be happy until this franchise is eradicated from this world." - This is what you wrote and i explained no one hates the franchise but they hate the owners. What is so confusing about it?

Also, Luka was mocked and hated on, exactly one season ago by Mavs fanbase, to the point that they either wanted to bench him or see him gone. People were seriously upset about the way he looked. Even though he dealt with multiple injuries through the off season, no one cared about it. So i guess you missed that.

We know about Mavs leadership comments post trade and how they saw things. I mean, i guess you also didn't know Dumont secretly filmed Doncic when he worked out on his own terms away from delusional and completely incompetent new Mavs medical team?

Now AD is in similar situation and you think people will just let it go? Nico deserves criticism for all the BS he spoke after the trade and the fact that they compared good work ethics with Shaq.

All in all, doesn't matter what kind of injury AD has, i don't care if he needed his arm to be re-attached. Point is, he's in the same situation as Luka was and he was traded, suddenly AD will be treated like it's nothing. Hypocrisy on full display and it's not my fault fans are jumping on it right away.


Dude, you've gone way to far in the moment you cited Gaza genocide, let's stick to basketball ffs.

I've never said that people should let go that AD came overweight. What I was saying is the fact that some of us, the usual suspects, were giving their best to excuse Luka weight last summer, but "somehow" they are the first in line to remark AD physical condition. That's the epitome of hypocrisy in full display and it was the main point from the start.

Bob and you have the bad habit to generalize just to push your narrative, I speak for myself and I've never ever questioned Luka even when he came clearly overweight, hence all your pamphlet about how he was badly threated by the fanbase is kinda pointless.

In regard of bad habit, another one is to make everything about the owners, even when they directly have nothing to do with the argument. And ofc I have to remark for the 100x that I hate them before people, the same usual suspects, start label me a corporate pro-Harrison guy lol
And I have a hard time believing you'd be truly happy if the Mavs were successful, honestly I think your hatred for Harrison & Co won't allow it.
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Post#291 » by Archx » Sun Oct 12, 2025 3:00 pm

ACMFFL wrote:
Archx wrote:
"It looks like some of us will never be happy until this franchise is eradicated from this world." - This is what you wrote and i explained no one hates the franchise but they hate the owners. What is so confusing about it?

Also, Luka was mocked and hated on, exactly one season ago by Mavs fanbase, to the point that they either wanted to bench him or see him gone. People were seriously upset about the way he looked. Even though he dealt with multiple injuries through the off season, no one cared about it. So i guess you missed that.

We know about Mavs leadership comments post trade and how they saw things. I mean, i guess you also didn't know Dumont secretly filmed Doncic when he worked out on his own terms away from delusional and completely incompetent new Mavs medical team?

Now AD is in similar situation and you think people will just let it go? Nico deserves criticism for all the BS he spoke after the trade and the fact that they compared good work ethics with Shaq.

All in all, doesn't matter what kind of injury AD has, i don't care if he needed his arm to be re-attached. Point is, he's in the same situation as Luka was and he was traded, suddenly AD will be treated like it's nothing. Hypocrisy on full display and it's not my fault fans are jumping on it right away.


Dude, you've gone way to far in the moment you cited Gaza genocide, let's stick to basketball ffs.

I've never said that people should let go that AD came overweight. What I was saying is the fact that some of us, the usual suspects, were giving their best to excuse Luka weight last summer, but "somehow" they are the first in line to remark AD physical condition. That's the epitome of hypocrisy in full display and it was the main point from the start.

Bob and you have the bad habit to generalize just to push your narrative, I speak for myself and I've never ever questioned Luka even when he came clearly overweight, hence all your pamphlet about how he was badly threated by the fanbase is kinda pointless.

In regard of bad habit, another one is to make everything about the owners, even when they directly have nothing to do with the argument. And ofc I have to remark for the 100x that I hate them before people, the same usual suspects, start label me a corporate pro-Harrison guy lol
And I have a hard time believing you'd be truly happy if the Mavs were successful, honestly I think your hatred for Harrison & Co won't allow it.


I don't even remember what the argument was about. I guess about the fact that AD is out of shape and Nico and the owner are fine with it and that people hate the franchise?
Anyway... what i said is true, i didn't generalize anything. I specifically answered your arguments. I think you defended the owners or something and i simply explained they are absolutely horrible human beings and fans hate them not the team, that's a fact nothing wrong about it. Their support for war crimes just support my argument so nothing wrong with that, everything explained was within the context.

But if you take every single word, sentence and argument out of context and then shine a bright light on it, sure you can make everything look worse than it is.
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Post#292 » by 41Dirk41 » Sun Oct 12, 2025 3:07 pm

Exum out for a while.

We waived and stretched O-Max for a dead body. Like i said desperated move by a desperated GM.

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Post#293 » by ACMFFL » Sun Oct 12, 2025 6:50 pm

Archx wrote:
ACMFFL wrote:
Archx wrote:
"It looks like some of us will never be happy until this franchise is eradicated from this world." - This is what you wrote and i explained no one hates the franchise but they hate the owners. What is so confusing about it?

Also, Luka was mocked and hated on, exactly one season ago by Mavs fanbase, to the point that they either wanted to bench him or see him gone. People were seriously upset about the way he looked. Even though he dealt with multiple injuries through the off season, no one cared about it. So i guess you missed that.

We know about Mavs leadership comments post trade and how they saw things. I mean, i guess you also didn't know Dumont secretly filmed Doncic when he worked out on his own terms away from delusional and completely incompetent new Mavs medical team?

Now AD is in similar situation and you think people will just let it go? Nico deserves criticism for all the BS he spoke after the trade and the fact that they compared good work ethics with Shaq.

All in all, doesn't matter what kind of injury AD has, i don't care if he needed his arm to be re-attached. Point is, he's in the same situation as Luka was and he was traded, suddenly AD will be treated like it's nothing. Hypocrisy on full display and it's not my fault fans are jumping on it right away.


Dude, you've gone way to far in the moment you cited Gaza genocide, let's stick to basketball ffs.

I've never said that people should let go that AD came overweight. What I was saying is the fact that some of us, the usual suspects, were giving their best to excuse Luka weight last summer, but "somehow" they are the first in line to remark AD physical condition. That's the epitome of hypocrisy in full display and it was the main point from the start.

Bob and you have the bad habit to generalize just to push your narrative, I speak for myself and I've never ever questioned Luka even when he came clearly overweight, hence all your pamphlet about how he was badly threated by the fanbase is kinda pointless.

In regard of bad habit, another one is to make everything about the owners, even when they directly have nothing to do with the argument. And ofc I have to remark for the 100x that I hate them before people, the same usual suspects, start label me a corporate pro-Harrison guy lol
And I have a hard time believing you'd be truly happy if the Mavs were successful, honestly I think your hatred for Harrison & Co won't allow it.


I don't even remember what the argument was about. I guess about the fact that AD is out of shape and Nico and the owner are fine with it and that people hate the franchise?
Anyway... what i said is true, i didn't generalize anything. I specifically answered your arguments. I think you defended the owners or something and i simply explained they are absolutely horrible human beings and fans hate them not the team, that's a fact nothing wrong about it. Their support for war crimes just support my argument so nothing wrong with that, everything explained was within the context.

But if you take every single word, sentence and argument out of context and then shine a bright light on it, sure you can make everything look worse than it is.


Lmfao dude, that's exactly what I was talking about, somehow you two guys have the need to make everything about the owner. I've never defend them nor I alluded to them in regard of the AD's weight argument, I mean what are we even talking about?

And my point from the start was to remark the hypocrisy of some of us, in this case you and especially Bob, and like it or not but that's a fact. Then you decided to bring in owner for the umpteenth time, we all know why everyone hates owner, I'm in the same boat too, but they were the same bad people even before trading Luka and you guys have never ever talked about the Gaza genocide argument, so it's kinda hypocritical from you to bring it in only now, and totally pointless with my argument.

What sentences did I take out of context? Could you please point it out? Otherwise you're just keep generalizing as usual.
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Post#294 » by Archx » Sun Oct 12, 2025 8:22 pm

ACMFFL wrote:
Archx wrote:
ACMFFL wrote:
Dude, you've gone way to far in the moment you cited Gaza genocide, let's stick to basketball ffs.

I've never said that people should let go that AD came overweight. What I was saying is the fact that some of us, the usual suspects, were giving their best to excuse Luka weight last summer, but "somehow" they are the first in line to remark AD physical condition. That's the epitome of hypocrisy in full display and it was the main point from the start.

Bob and you have the bad habit to generalize just to push your narrative, I speak for myself and I've never ever questioned Luka even when he came clearly overweight, hence all your pamphlet about how he was badly threated by the fanbase is kinda pointless.

In regard of bad habit, another one is to make everything about the owners, even when they directly have nothing to do with the argument. And ofc I have to remark for the 100x that I hate them before people, the same usual suspects, start label me a corporate pro-Harrison guy lol
And I have a hard time believing you'd be truly happy if the Mavs were successful, honestly I think your hatred for Harrison & Co won't allow it.


I don't even remember what the argument was about. I guess about the fact that AD is out of shape and Nico and the owner are fine with it and that people hate the franchise?
Anyway... what i said is true, i didn't generalize anything. I specifically answered your arguments. I think you defended the owners or something and i simply explained they are absolutely horrible human beings and fans hate them not the team, that's a fact nothing wrong about it. Their support for war crimes just support my argument so nothing wrong with that, everything explained was within the context.

But if you take every single word, sentence and argument out of context and then shine a bright light on it, sure you can make everything look worse than it is.


Lmfao dude, that's exactly what I was talking about, somehow you two guys have the need to make everything about the owner. I've never defend them nor I alluded to them in regard of the AD's weight argument, I mean what are we even talking about?

And my point from the start was to remark the hypocrisy of some of us, in this case you and especially Bob, and like it or not but that's a fact. Then you decided to bring in owner for the umpteenth time, we all know why everyone hates owner, I'm in the same boat too, but they were the same bad people even before trading Luka and you guys have never ever talked about the Gaza genocide argument, so it's kinda hypocritical from you to bring it in only now, and totally pointless with my argument.

What sentences did I take out of context? Could you please point it out? Otherwise you're just keep generalizing as usual.


I actually went back to check what was it about... You said something about fans hating the franchise and i explained hating the franchise or the owners are 2 different things. No one hates THE TEAM or the players but they do hate THE OWNERS.
Adelson family are one the lowest of the lowlife scums of the planet because of what they are directly or indirectly involved in and because of what they stand for. That's all, and i have no clue how you took it or why and i think i explained it in details.
Bob answered you about Nico's hypocrisy. So in short, i don't know how to even further discuss this since it's been discussed into details, so i hope you can finally fully understand the arguments about the subject because i don't even know what else to say.
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Post#295 » by Archx » Sun Oct 12, 2025 8:25 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:Exum out for a while.

We waived and stretched O-Max for a dead body. Like i said desperated move by a desperated GM.

Harrison is on the line more than ever. A bad start and he is done. Tic toc tic toc


Unfortunately the way Nico structured the team, OMax would probably see no minutes and would be a dead weight anyway. Problem is, he also laid out his plans on a platter to everyone so teams knew Mavs will have no other choice but to waive him and now he's dead cap on the books.

Would probably be better if he just kept his mouth shut and do the work behind the scenes but we know this guy just can't stop yapping in public.
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Post#296 » by 41Dirk41 » Mon Oct 13, 2025 6:59 am

The Mavs situation is easy for me to predict, we have a lot talent and one of the best rookie in the NBA history so we will win games (probably around 50/55%) unless a ton of injuries.

But it's a failure anyway because we were a contender team before the trade and now just a play-in tran, i still don't think that Harrison will survive to this season because someone have to pay. And he is that man.
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Post#297 » by ACMFFL » Mon Oct 13, 2025 7:33 am

Archx wrote:
ACMFFL wrote:
Archx wrote:
I don't even remember what the argument was about. I guess about the fact that AD is out of shape and Nico and the owner are fine with it and that people hate the franchise?
Anyway... what i said is true, i didn't generalize anything. I specifically answered your arguments. I think you defended the owners or something and i simply explained they are absolutely horrible human beings and fans hate them not the team, that's a fact nothing wrong about it. Their support for war crimes just support my argument so nothing wrong with that, everything explained was within the context.

But if you take every single word, sentence and argument out of context and then shine a bright light on it, sure you can make everything look worse than it is.


Lmfao dude, that's exactly what I was talking about, somehow you two guys have the need to make everything about the owner. I've never defend them nor I alluded to them in regard of the AD's weight argument, I mean what are we even talking about?

And my point from the start was to remark the hypocrisy of some of us, in this case you and especially Bob, and like it or not but that's a fact. Then you decided to bring in owner for the umpteenth time, we all know why everyone hates owner, I'm in the same boat too, but they were the same bad people even before trading Luka and you guys have never ever talked about the Gaza genocide argument, so it's kinda hypocritical from you to bring it in only now, and totally pointless with my argument.

What sentences did I take out of context? Could you please point it out? Otherwise you're just keep generalizing as usual.


I actually went back to check what was it about... You said something about fans hating the franchise and i explained hating the franchise or the owners are 2 different things. No one hates THE TEAM or the players but they do hate THE OWNERS.
Adelson family are one the lowest of the lowlife scums of the planet because of what they are directly or indirectly involved in and because of what they stand for. That's all, and i have no clue how you took it or why and i think i explained it in details.
Bob answered you about Nico's hypocrisy. So in short, i don't know how to even further discuss this since it's been discussed into details, so i hope you can finally fully understand the arguments about the subject because i don't even know what else to say.


Are you telling me that you were critizing Adelson for being correlated with Gaza genocide even BEFORE Luka got traded? Otherwise it's very hypocritical from you to mention it ONLY NOW. Just stick to basketball matters, dude, there is enough material in that regard to hate them.

So basically any excuse is good to bring in owners, you reduce almost every single thing and argument to them. If I have to be honest that's pretty boring and puerile.

I guess you need to check it better cause you're still missing the fact that from the freaking beginning of the discussion I was talking about the hypocrisy within the fanbase, owners have nothing to do with my reasoning but you two guys have the need to make everything about them.

And look who is talking about taking sentence out of context, you literally did the same with me here lol

Isn't it funny that the same dude who spent basically half of 2024 to explain the freaking world the reasons why Luka looked out of shape was first in line to ridicule AD weight..?
And don't fool ourselves, it's not about the credit earned by the players, but how biased and in good faith users are.
But it's even funnier that Bob needs a personal Argle-Bargle. :lol:
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Post#298 » by Bob8 » Mon Oct 13, 2025 8:20 am

ACMFFL wrote:
Archx wrote:
ACMFFL wrote:
Lmfao dude, that's exactly what I was talking about, somehow you two guys have the need to make everything about the owner. I've never defend them nor I alluded to them in regard of the AD's weight argument, I mean what are we even talking about?

And my point from the start was to remark the hypocrisy of some of us, in this case you and especially Bob, and like it or not but that's a fact. Then you decided to bring in owner for the umpteenth time, we all know why everyone hates owner, I'm in the same boat too, but they were the same bad people even before trading Luka and you guys have never ever talked about the Gaza genocide argument, so it's kinda hypocritical from you to bring it in only now, and totally pointless with my argument.

What sentences did I take out of context? Could you please point it out? Otherwise you're just keep generalizing as usual.


I actually went back to check what was it about... You said something about fans hating the franchise and i explained hating the franchise or the owners are 2 different things. No one hates THE TEAM or the players but they do hate THE OWNERS.
Adelson family are one the lowest of the lowlife scums of the planet because of what they are directly or indirectly involved in and because of what they stand for. That's all, and i have no clue how you took it or why and i think i explained it in details.
Bob answered you about Nico's hypocrisy. So in short, i don't know how to even further discuss this since it's been discussed into details, so i hope you can finally fully understand the arguments about the subject because i don't even know what else to say.


Are you telling me that you were critizing Adelson for being correlated with Gaza genocide even before Luka got traded? Otherwise it's very hypocritical from you to mention it only now. Just stick to basketball matters, dude, there is enough material in that regard to hate them.

So basically any excuse is good to bring in owners, you reduce almost every single thing and argument to them. If I have to be honest that's pretty boring and puerile.

I guess you need to check it better cause you're still missing the fact that from the freaking beginning of the discussion I was talking about the hypocrisy within the fanbase, owners have nothing to do with my reasoning but you two guys have the need to make everything about them.

What do they have to do with AD being fat like a cow? The entire freaking world already knows that Luka being out of shape was just a pretext to trade him, and FO won't never admit it on public even at the cost of denying the obvious, so you're basically tilting at windmills. You guys just want to make polemic after polemic.
But ehi, I guess you will still perceive my posts as an attempt to defend owners, even though I said multiple times that I want them out of the city.

Isn't it funny that the same dude who spent basically half of 2024 to explain the freaking world the reasons why Luka looked out of shape was first in line to ridicule AD weight..?
And don't fool ourselves, it's not about the credit earned by the players, but how biased and in good faith users are.
But it's even funnier that Bob need a personal Argle-Bargle. :lol:


I'm really living in your head, if you're mentioning me in every post, while I'm not even being in this thread for few weeks. :lol:

To return to the beginning, I just said it's funny that a player who was traded for fat, lazy Luka is fat too. And it's still funny. You making hypocritical assumptions about it looks pretty pathetic, knowing that the reasoning for trading Luka, true or not, was exactly he being out of shape.

Before writing another righteous statement, just think for the minute, did I really write something offending in this thread about AD or you, on the other hand read how many personal comments you have written about me? You're the rude one here.

Btw, fat Luka never looked as bad as fat AD is at the moment. We might even say that everyone should be fat, if you're capable to make 34/9/10. ;)
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Post#299 » by ACMFFL » Mon Oct 13, 2025 8:29 am

Bob8 wrote:
ACMFFL wrote:
Archx wrote:
I actually went back to check what was it about... You said something about fans hating the franchise and i explained hating the franchise or the owners are 2 different things. No one hates THE TEAM or the players but they do hate THE OWNERS.
Adelson family are one the lowest of the lowlife scums of the planet because of what they are directly or indirectly involved in and because of what they stand for. That's all, and i have no clue how you took it or why and i think i explained it in details.
Bob answered you about Nico's hypocrisy. So in short, i don't know how to even further discuss this since it's been discussed into details, so i hope you can finally fully understand the arguments about the subject because i don't even know what else to say.


Are you telling me that you were critizing Adelson for being correlated with Gaza genocide even before Luka got traded? Otherwise it's very hypocritical from you to mention it only now. Just stick to basketball matters, dude, there is enough material in that regard to hate them.

So basically any excuse is good to bring in owners, you reduce almost every single thing and argument to them. If I have to be honest that's pretty boring and puerile.

I guess you need to check it better cause you're still missing the fact that from the freaking beginning of the discussion I was talking about the hypocrisy within the fanbase, owners have nothing to do with my reasoning but you two guys have the need to make everything about them.

What do they have to do with AD being fat like a cow? The entire freaking world already knows that Luka being out of shape was just a pretext to trade him, and FO won't never admit it on public even at the cost of denying the obvious, so you're basically tilting at windmills. You guys just want to make polemic after polemic.
But ehi, I guess you will still perceive my posts as an attempt to defend owners, even though I said multiple times that I want them out of the city.

Isn't it funny that the same dude who spent basically half of 2024 to explain the freaking world the reasons why Luka looked out of shape was first in line to ridicule AD weight..?
And don't fool ourselves, it's not about the credit earned by the players, but how biased and in good faith users are.
But it's even funnier that Bob need a personal Argle-Bargle. :lol:


I'm really living in your head, if you're mentioning me in every post, while I'm not even being in this thread for few weeks. :lol:

To return to the beginning, I just said it's funny that a player who was traded for fat, lazy Luka is fat too. :D And it's still funny. You making hypocritical assumptions about it looks pretty pathetic, knowing that the reasoning for trading Luka, true or not, was exactly he being out of shape.

Before writing another righteous statement, just think for the minute, did I really write something offending in this thread about AD or you, on the other hand just read how many personal comments you have written about me? You're the rude one here.


Lmfao dude you think too highly of you. I didnt even bother to post for weeks, I know it's hard to imagine to have a life apart from defending our favourite player's name all the time but that's the case.
It's just sad to see a "so-called fan" **** on everything about his alleged favourite team.

Hypocritical assumption? I just stated facts, Luka being out of shape was just a pretext, and we all know it. The process of alienating and isolating Luka from all his favourite personalities and staff members had started way before he came out of shape in the summer of 2024. FO was just waiting for a good pretext to sell it to the fans in order to justify the trade.

Are you actually that sensitive? I just described who you are.

Where did I offend you..? Sorry but pointing out other people hypocrisy isn't exactly a personal attack.
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Re: Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap and the 1st page 

Post#300 » by Bob8 » Mon Oct 13, 2025 9:20 am

ACMFFL wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
ACMFFL wrote:
Are you telling me that you were critizing Adelson for being correlated with Gaza genocide even before Luka got traded? Otherwise it's very hypocritical from you to mention it only now. Just stick to basketball matters, dude, there is enough material in that regard to hate them.

So basically any excuse is good to bring in owners, you reduce almost every single thing and argument to them. If I have to be honest that's pretty boring and puerile.

I guess you need to check it better cause you're still missing the fact that from the freaking beginning of the discussion I was talking about the hypocrisy within the fanbase, owners have nothing to do with my reasoning but you two guys have the need to make everything about them.

What do they have to do with AD being fat like a cow? The entire freaking world already knows that Luka being out of shape was just a pretext to trade him, and FO won't never admit it on public even at the cost of denying the obvious, so you're basically tilting at windmills. You guys just want to make polemic after polemic.
But ehi, I guess you will still perceive my posts as an attempt to defend owners, even though I said multiple times that I want them out of the city.

Isn't it funny that the same dude who spent basically half of 2024 to explain the freaking world the reasons why Luka looked out of shape was first in line to ridicule AD weight..?
And don't fool ourselves, it's not about the credit earned by the players, but how biased and in good faith users are.
But it's even funnier that Bob need a personal Argle-Bargle. :lol:


I'm really living in your head, if you're mentioning me in every post, while I'm not even being in this thread for few weeks. :lol:

To return to the beginning, I just said it's funny that a player who was traded for fat, lazy Luka is fat too. :D And it's still funny. You making hypocritical assumptions about it looks pretty pathetic, knowing that the reasoning for trading Luka, true or not, was exactly he being out of shape.

Before writing another righteous statement, just think for the minute, did I really write something offending in this thread about AD or you, on the other hand just read how many personal comments you have written about me? You're the rude one here.


Lmfao dude you think too highly of you. I didnt even bother to post for weeks, I know it's hard to imagine to have a life apart from defending our favourite player's name all the time but that's the case.
It's just sad to see a "so-called fan" **** on everything about his alleged favourite team.

Hypocritical assumption? I just stated facts, Luka being out of shape was just a pretext, and we all know it. The process of alienating and isolating Luka from all his favourite personalities and staff members had started way before he came out of shape in the summer of 2024. FO was just waiting for a good pretext to sell it to the fans in order to justify the trade.

Are you actually that sensitive? I just described who you are.

Where did I offend you..? Sorry but pointing out other people hypocrisy isn't exactly a personal attack.


Read your last 4 or 5 posts in this thread, I'm mentioned in everyone, while not even discussing with you. :lol:

The only reason I mentioned AD's weight is because he was supposedly traded for fat, lazy player. And btw. I posted Kirk Henderson tweet, who's not only a fan but is covering Mavs for 10+ years. I guess he's so called fan **** on everything too. And you're moral authority to point out those fans.

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