2025-26 Off-Season

[JonFromVA]

Dean Wade 2/14 from three in the preseason. Nance 1/13. Tyson 3/14. Ball 1/5. Tomlin 3/12. We aren't going to be successful when our shooters aren't shooting.

Hopefully it's just preseason tuneups but my takeaway right now is that we're not in-rhythm shooting the ball. We took an absurd 60 attempts from three against the Celtics. We missed a ton of open ones. If we match Boston's 3FG%, we score 36 more points (and probably lose a few second chance points) and it's a ballgame even though we should've been out-classed.

I've been underwhelmed by the defense of our 2nd unit, particularly CPJ, and there's not a lot of help at the rim with LNJ and Wade as our bigs.

I don't know if you watched, but CPJ was the only one able to beat his man off the dribble (some times). When he did, the paint was crowded, and he either couldn't get to the rim or couldn't finish. Most of the game was five-out sets with guys passing around the perimeter before settling for 3s they couldn't make.

With the possible exception of Proctor who may eventually get there, everyone on the court was a 4th or 5th option offensively. Tyson's absolute ceiling is Josh Hart. CPJ is still an in-case-of-emergency PG who needs to play on the ball too be even marginally effective. Both Wade and Nance are pretty useless offensively when their teammates can't force a defensive rotation. I'm not convinced anyone else who played deserves a roster spot.

I'm not one to put ceilings on players that have barely played, but I agree that lack of players who could easily create offense was very apparent.

Ty Jerome might very well had saved the day in a game like that.

Unless Kenny's offense clicks and we can create offense without someone who can consistently break down a defense, we're either going to need CPJ, Tyson, and Proctor to all improve in that area, or we'll likely have to go shopping for a viable backup PG, or we're going to have to overplay the few players on the team that can create.

With Garland and Strus out injured, that leaves us what? Mitchell, sometimes Mobley, and tbd Ball?

[toooskies]

Dean Wade 2/14 from three in the preseason. Nance 1/13. Tyson 3/14. Ball 1/5. Tomlin 3/12. We aren't going to be successful when our shooters aren't shooting.

Hopefully it's just preseason tuneups but my takeaway right now is that we're not in-rhythm shooting the ball. We took an absurd 60 attempts from three against the Celtics. We missed a ton of open ones. If we match Boston's 3FG%, we score 36 more points (and probably lose a few second chance points) and it's a ballgame even though we should've been out-classed.

I've been underwhelmed by the defense of our 2nd unit, particularly CPJ, and there's not a lot of help at the rim with LNJ and Wade as our bigs.

I don't know if you watched, but CPJ was the only one able to beat his man off the dribble (some times). When he did, the paint was crowded, and he either couldn't get to the rim or couldn't finish. Most of the game was five-out sets with guys passing around the perimeter before settling for 3s they couldn't make.

With the possible exception of Proctor who may eventually get there, everyone on the court was a 4th or 5th option offensively. Tyson's absolute ceiling is Josh Hart. CPJ is still an in-case-of-emergency PG who needs to play on the ball too be even marginally effective. Both Wade and Nance are pretty useless offensively when their teammates can't force a defensive rotation. I'm not convinced anyone else who played deserves a roster spot.

I watched, but not closely and not all the way to the end.

I knew the offense wouldn't be super-functional from the first two games and it's not going to be with who's out there. You still should knock down a few threes when the other team isn't going to contest. Wade and Nance need to knock those down or else we'd be better off with a real big out there.

I watched more defense and hoped to see something on that end of the court but we just missed rotations constantly and didn't have any semblance of help at the rim. Say what you want about starters not playing, all our bench guys need to engage defensively. I'm much more disappointed in giving up 138 than I am in only scoring 107.

[jbk1234]

The Nets just cut Dariq Whitehead.

[jbk1234]

Dean Wade 2/14 from three in the preseason. Nance 1/13. Tyson 3/14. Ball 1/5. Tomlin 3/12. We aren't going to be successful when our shooters aren't shooting.

Hopefully it's just preseason tuneups but my takeaway right now is that we're not in-rhythm shooting the ball. We took an absurd 60 attempts from three against the Celtics. We missed a ton of open ones. If we match Boston's 3FG%, we score 36 more points (and probably lose a few second chance points) and it's a ballgame even though we should've been out-classed.

I've been underwhelmed by the defense of our 2nd unit, particularly CPJ, and there's not a lot of help at the rim with LNJ and Wade as our bigs.

I don't know if you watched, but CPJ was the only one able to beat his man off the dribble (some times). When he did, the paint was crowded, and he either couldn't get to the rim or couldn't finish. Most of the game was five-out sets with guys passing around the perimeter before settling for 3s they couldn't make.

With the possible exception of Proctor who may eventually get there, everyone on the court was a 4th or 5th option offensively. Tyson's absolute ceiling is Josh Hart. CPJ is still an in-case-of-emergency PG who needs to play on the ball to be even marginally effective. Both Wade and Nance are pretty useless offensively when their teammates can't force a defensive rotation. I'm not convinced anyone else who played deserves a roster spot.

I'm not one to put ceilings on players that have barely played, but I agree that lack of players who could easily create offense was very apparent.

Ty Jerome might very well had saved the day in a game like that.

Unless Kenny's offense clicks and we can create offense without someone who can consistently break down a defense, we're either going to need CPJ, Tyson, and Proctor to all improve in that area, or we'll likely have to go shopping for a viable backup PG, or we're going to have to overplay the few players on the team that can create.

With Garland and Strus out injured, that leaves us what? Mitchell, sometimes Mobley, and tbd Ball?

Yeah, the nightmare scenario would be if Ball can't penetrate and force a defensive rotation after his surgery. That said, even guys like Strus and Merrill would've made a difference last night.

Altman should keep an eye on the waiver wire. It wasn't just the Celtics starters who outplayed the guys we had out there.

[JujitsuFlip]

I don't know if you watched, but CPJ was the only one able to beat his man off the dribble (some times). When he did, the paint was crowded, and he either couldn't get to the rim or couldn't finish. Most of the game was five-out sets with guys passing around the perimeter before settling for 3s they couldn't make.

With the possible exception of Proctor who may eventually get there, everyone on the court was a 4th or 5th option offensively. Tyson's absolute ceiling is Josh Hart. CPJ is still an in-case-of-emergency PG who needs to play on the ball to be even marginally effective. Both Wade and Nance are pretty useless offensively when their teammates can't force a defensive rotation. I'm not convinced anyone else who played deserves a roster spot.

I'm not one to put ceilings on players that have barely played, but I agree that lack of players who could easily create offense was very apparent.

Ty Jerome might very well had saved the day in a game like that.

Unless Kenny's offense clicks and we can create offense without someone who can consistently break down a defense, we're either going to need CPJ, Tyson, and Proctor to all improve in that area, or we'll likely have to go shopping for a viable backup PG, or we're going to have to overplay the few players on the team that can create.

With Garland and Strus out injured, that leaves us what? Mitchell, sometimes Mobley, and tbd Ball?

Yeah, the nightmare scenario would be if Ball can't penetrate and force a defensive rotation after his surgery. That said, even guys like Strus and Merrill would've made a difference last night.

Altman should keep an eye on the waiver wire. It wasn't just the Celtics starters who outplayed the guys we had out there.

It's tough when your team is starting with 2 guys on IR, a 3rd roster spot open, a 4th spot to a non-guaranteed guy, and possibly a 5th who has yet to suit up before the season opener.

That gives ya 10 guys. 1 is a rookie, 1 is a 1 year pro, and 1 is a prospect.

You're down to 7 guys from there, 3 have major injury questions and histories.

You're down to 4 guys, truly. Mitchell, Mobley, Allen, and Hunter. This team goes as those 4 go until about Christmas.

[jbk1234]

I'm not one to put ceilings on players that have barely played, but I agree that lack of players who could easily create offense was very apparent.

Ty Jerome might very well had saved the day in a game like that.

Unless Kenny's offense clicks and we can create offense without someone who can consistently break down a defense, we're either going to need CPJ, Tyson, and Proctor to all improve in that area, or we'll likely have to go shopping for a viable backup PG, or we're going to have to overplay the few players on the team that can create.

With Garland and Strus out injured, that leaves us what? Mitchell, sometimes Mobley, and tbd Ball?

Yeah, the nightmare scenario would be if Ball can't penetrate and force a defensive rotation after his surgery. That said, even guys like Strus and Merrill would've made a difference last night.

Altman should keep an eye on the waiver wire. It wasn't just the Celtics starters who outplayed the guys we had out there.

It's tough when your team is starting with 2 guys on IR, a 3rd roster spot open, a 4th spot to a non-guaranteed guy, and possibly a 5th who has yet to suit up before the season opener.

That gives ya 10 guys. 1 is a rookie, 1 is a 1 year pro, and 1 is a prospect.

You're down to 7 guys from there, 3 have major injury questions and histories.

You're down to 4 guys, truly. Mitchell, Mobley, Allen, and Hunter. This team goes as those 4 go until about Christmas.

I'm assuming part of what not playing any of the four starters who were healthy and Ball was about was getting an honest assessment of where the back half of the roster was at.

[JujitsuFlip]

Yeah, the nightmare scenario would be if Ball can't penetrate and force a defensive rotation after his surgery. That said, even guys like Strus and Merrill would've made a difference last night.

Altman should keep an eye on the waiver wire. It wasn't just the Celtics starters who outplayed the guys we had out there.

It's tough when your team is starting with 2 guys on IR, a 3rd roster spot open, a 4th spot to a non-guaranteed guy, and possibly a 5th who has yet to suit up before the season opener.

That gives ya 10 guys. 1 is a rookie, 1 is a 1 year pro, and 1 is a prospect.

You're down to 7 guys from there, 3 have major injury questions and histories.

You're down to 4 guys, truly. Mitchell, Mobley, Allen, and Hunter. This team goes as those 4 go until about Christmas.

I'm assuming part of what not playing any of the four starters who were healthy and Ball was about was getting an honest assessment of where the back half of the roster was at.

I think they're just trying to figure out if anyone is worthy of the 3rd two-way slot and other than that getting dudes a rest since they play tomorrow.