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Precious Achiuwa off the list...
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Alex Reese it is... PF/C, small sample size in the NBA - 216 minutes.
6'9" , 6'10" wingspan ~250.
6'9" , 6'10" wingspan ~250.
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dckingsfan wrote:Alex Reese it is... PF/C, small sample size in the NBA - 216 minutes.
6'9" , 6'10" wingspan ~250.
Meh, just a sign and waive to be able to go to the D league.
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Could or should Bol Bol be an option for Portland at the veterans minimum?
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Bol could play behind or alongside Yang and Clingan.
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Butter wrote:I have no idea who this person is, but there are some interesting names in here. Could one of these folks could be the next "Deni" type bargain?
https://www.reddit.com/r/nbadiscussion/comments/1g4p9tv/breakout_role_players_2025/Breakout role players 2025
Some thoughts on players who I predict will breakout. There's levels to role players but I'm talking about early, early breakouts who are starting to break 20 minutes per game. Guys were were real end of the bench guys who are given an opportunity because they earned it. I consider guys like Deuce McBride and Keon Ellis "half breakouts" cuz they already played big roles on their teams last year. Those guys are gonna be real dudes on the scouting reports this upcoming season before big games.
Julian Strawther. Nuggets need shooting and he brings it. I think he will work well with Westbrook and Saric off the bench to provide some much needed spacing. He slots well into the starting lineup depending on if they need some additional fire power as well.
Jamal Cain. Very good two way 6'7 wing on the Pelicans. I liked him on the Heat but he kind of had a down year and I'm hoping he regains his form. I think he's gonna play a key role in keeping the Pelicans defense afloat.
Max Christie. Lakers two way 3-D guard. I don't think the shooting was what kept him off the floor last season, but more so him just looking kind of lost on offense in general and not knowing where to be/when to cut. Still a lot of rookie mistakes last season that I'm hoping he will clean up this upcoming year. But shows potential as an on ball defender and shooter. To be honest he's not the kind of hard nosed chase-guys-around-screens type of defender that Jalen Suggs or KCP are- he's more closer to Klay Thompson whos about containing attempts to drive with his feet and using his length to bother shot attempts.
Kenneth Lofton Jr. Talented forward scorer who got his chance on the Grizzlies last year. I don't like him having to fight for minutes on the Bulls but if he has to make a way I think he will. He's just a physical Prescence on the court just cuz his bullyball size. He's like mini Zion and I think he could be a valuable piece for the right team who invests in him.
Da'Ron Sharpe. Already showed signs of being decent last year behind Claxton and I think he will continue the improvement. Athletic center who is quite a good defender but still needs a lot of work on offense.
Jalen Wilson. 6'8 2 way forward. Seems to be quite a common find on the Nets. I think he's poised to have a good sophomore year as he continues his shooting and defensive additions. Had a phenomenal summer league being on the 1st team awards I believe and so far in Summer league + Preseason he's averaging 18.6/4 on 47FG% and 52 3pt%. I think the shooting will cool off but he will be still a really good player for the Nets.
Orlando Robinson. Yes I believe. I've believed all along. Orlando has all the tools athleticallly to be good and he has the shooting and raw rebounding. Hes just a tad undersized physically. I think coaches are turned off by his dumb mistakes and kind of betrays his below average BBIQ but I think he's a perfectly good backup or 3rd string center in the league playing 15 minutes per game for a team. Like I don't think he's worse than Nick Richards by much if at all.
Jordan Miller. 6'5 guard on clippers who had a great summer league and preseason so far averaging 18ppg on 54FG% and 54 3pt%. He will cool down but he packs such a scoring threat from all places on the floor. Needs to work on the defense and passing but I think he's enough of a shooting threat to be worth giving 15 minutes to
IF, Giannis is traded to the Knicks. Trade idea.
Blazers send pick sweetener and salary filler to the Bucks, and get Duece McBride from the Knicks. McBride did breakout, and fits the Blazers roster. Bucks get pick back to rebuild.
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Why would POR want another 6'2 guard when they have Scoot, Dame, Jrue & Wesley?
He is a career 40% FG%, ranked 30th percentile LY in eFG & TS%, 25yrs old, don't see that worth a 1st round pick...
He is a career 40% FG%, ranked 30th percentile LY in eFG & TS%, 25yrs old, don't see that worth a 1st round pick...
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oldfishermen wrote:IF, Giannis is traded to the Knicks. Trade idea.
Blazers send pick sweetener and salary filler to the Bucks, and get Duece McBride from the Knicks. McBride did breakout, and fits the Blazers roster. Bucks get pick back to rebuild.
I don't like it either. I just don't see McBride getting that much better and we are going to have Scoot, Jrue and Dame (and possibly Wesley).
I would make a trade straight up for Murray but that is about it. And even then the trade can't be made.
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Ya we have Dame waiting in the wings, a #3 pick invested in a PG and a 35M+ vet in Holiday. I am not moving any assets for McBride.
Even if we had a PG need I wouldnt move a FRP for McBride FWIW.
Even if we had a PG need I wouldnt move a FRP for McBride FWIW.
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Understand the concerns about McBride. He is an undersized guard, BUT, his 6'9" wingspan more than makes up for this.
Plus, I believe his best position is SG. Compared to Sharpe, he is a far better defender. He can defend PG, SG, and some SFs. When comparing actual offensive results, not blue sky potential. They are about equal.
I am not buying into Sharpes smoke and mirrior playing for a contract motivation. He does not have killer instints, nor is he self motivated. If we re-sign him for $22.5M+. He will be an Ayton level bad contract. Play well for the contract, then mailing it in.
Hope Sharpe plays very well before the trade deadline, and he has GMs linedup to trade for him. I would sell high on Sharpe.
I would much rather have McBride taking up 5M in cap space than Sharpe at 22.5M.
Plus, I believe his best position is SG. Compared to Sharpe, he is a far better defender. He can defend PG, SG, and some SFs. When comparing actual offensive results, not blue sky potential. They are about equal.
I am not buying into Sharpes smoke and mirrior playing for a contract motivation. He does not have killer instints, nor is he self motivated. If we re-sign him for $22.5M+. He will be an Ayton level bad contract. Play well for the contract, then mailing it in.
Hope Sharpe plays very well before the trade deadline, and he has GMs linedup to trade for him. I would sell high on Sharpe.
I would much rather have McBride taking up 5M in cap space than Sharpe at 22.5M.
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oldfishermen wrote:Understand the concerns about McBride. He is an undersized guard, BUT, his 6'9' wingspan more than makes up for this.
Plus, I believe his best position is SG. Compared to Sharpe, he is a far better defender. He can defend PG, SG, and some SFs. When comparing actual offensive results, not blue sky potential. They are about equal.
I am not buying into Sharpes smoke and mirrior playing for a contract motivation. He does not have killer instinks, nor is he self motivated. If we re-sign him for $22.5M+. He will be an Ayton level bad contract. Play well for the contract, then mailing it in.
Hope Sharpe plays very well before the trade deadline, and he has GMs linedup to trade for him. I would sell high on Sharpe.
I would much rather have McBride taking up 5M in cap space than Sharpe at 22.5M.
Ah, I think these are two different issues.
The first is if we sign Sharpe, will he be a value contract. I am leaning toward your thinking. If they could move him at the deadline for more or equal value (whatever that is), I am right there with you.
The other is McBride. I don't think you give up assets to get him (opinion).
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dckingsfan wrote:oldfishermen wrote:Understand the concerns about McBride. He is an undersized guard, BUT, his 6'9' wingspan more than makes up for this.
Plus, I believe his best position is SG. Compared to Sharpe, he is a far better defender. He can defend PG, SG, and some SFs. When comparing actual offensive results, not blue sky potential. They are about equal.
I am not buying into Sharpes smoke and mirrior playing for a contract motivation. He does not have killer instinks, nor is he self motivated. If we re-sign him for $22.5M+. He will be an Ayton level bad contract. Play well for the contract, then mailing it in.
Hope Sharpe plays very well before the trade deadline, and he has GMs linedup to trade for him. I would sell high on Sharpe.
I would much rather have McBride taking up 5M in cap space than Sharpe at 22.5M.
Ah, I think these are two different issues.
The first is if we sign Sharpe, will he be a value contract. I am leaning toward your thinking. If they could move him at the deadline for more or equal value (whatever that is), I am right there with you.
The other is McBride. I don't think you give up assets to get him (opinion).
That is fair. I am thinking on two levels, trying to get the most bang for the buck. I do not believe McBride is an all-star caliber SG. Given a chance to start, I believe he could be a mid level starter.
But replacing Sharpe with McBride could save $20+M, which would help pay for the #1 player this team needs to be a contender.
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oldfishermen wrote:dckingsfan wrote:oldfishermen wrote:Understand the concerns about McBride. He is an undersized guard, BUT, his 6'9' wingspan more than makes up for this.
Plus, I believe his best position is SG. Compared to Sharpe, he is a far better defender. He can defend PG, SG, and some SFs. When comparing actual offensive results, not blue sky potential. They are about equal.
I am not buying into Sharpes smoke and mirrior playing for a contract motivation. He does not have killer instinks, nor is he self motivated. If we re-sign him for $22.5M+. He will be an Ayton level bad contract. Play well for the contract, then mailing it in.
Hope Sharpe plays very well before the trade deadline, and he has GMs linedup to trade for him. I would sell high on Sharpe.
I would much rather have McBride taking up 5M in cap space than Sharpe at 22.5M.
Ah, I think these are two different issues.
The first is if we sign Sharpe, will he be a value contract. I am leaning toward your thinking. If they could move him at the deadline for more or equal value (whatever that is), I am right there with you.
The other is McBride. I don't think you give up assets to get him (opinion).
That is fair. I am thinking on two levels, trying to get the most bang for the buck. I do not believe McBride is an all-star caliber SG. Given a chance to start, I believe he could be a mid level starter.
But replacing Sharpe with McBride could save $20+M, which would help pay for the #1 player this team needs to be a contender.
Dariq Whitehead just got waived. He can also play SG/SF. He would be a terrific 2-way, IMO (over someone like Love).
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dckingsfan wrote:oldfishermen wrote:dckingsfan wrote:Ah, I think these are two different issues.
The first is if we sign Sharpe, will he be a value contract. I am leaning toward your thinking. If they could move him at the deadline for more or equal value (whatever that is), I am right there with you.
The other is McBride. I don't think you give up assets to get him (opinion).
That is fair. I am thinking on two levels, trying to get the most bang for the buck. I do not believe McBride is an all-star caliber SG. Given a chance to start, I believe he could be a mid level starter.
But replacing Sharpe with McBride could save $20+M, which would help pay for the #1 player this team needs to be a contender.
Dariq Whitehead just got waived. He can also play SG/SF. He would be a terrific 2-way, IMO (over someone like Love).
I vaguely remember thinking that Whitehead could be an interesting prospect. I didn't do too much of a deep dive on him though.
Statistically - he's not been impactful in the least (even in G-League). I don't think he's even worth at 2-way spot right now.
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tester551 wrote:dckingsfan wrote:oldfishermen wrote:That is fair. I am thinking on two levels, trying to get the most bang for the buck. I do not believe McBride is an all-star caliber SG. Given a chance to start, I believe he could be a mid level starter.
But replacing Sharpe with McBride could save $20+M, which would help pay for the #1 player this team needs to be a contender.
Dariq Whitehead just got waived. He can also play SG/SF. He would be a terrific 2-way, IMO (over someone like Love).
I vaguely remember thinking that Whitehead could be an interesting prospect. I didn't do too much of a deep dive on him though.
Statistically - he's not been impactful in the least (even in G-League). I don't think he's even worth at 2-way spot right now.
My take is slightly different. He is just 20 and can shoot 3s. "When healthy" and he has struggled with his health, he has the "potential" to become a good reserve 3&D SG. He had two surgeries on his right foot and surgery on his left shin. If a doc says that he could recover - I would be interested.
I get keeping Rupert and Cissoko because they are also young. I don't get keeping Love and Cooke and would rather take a gamble on a Whitehead "type" player.
McBride is a different ilk - that would take a trade to pull off. I guess you get where I am going with this.
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dckingsfan wrote:tester551 wrote:dckingsfan wrote:Dariq Whitehead just got waived. He can also play SG/SF. He would be a terrific 2-way, IMO (over someone like Love).
I vaguely remember thinking that Whitehead could be an interesting prospect. I didn't do too much of a deep dive on him though.
Statistically - he's not been impactful in the least (even in G-League). I don't think he's even worth at 2-way spot right now.
My take is slightly different. He is just 20 and can shoot 3s. "When healthy" and he has struggled with his health, he has the "potential" to become a good reserve 3&D SG. He had two surgeries on his right foot and surgery on his left shin. If a doc says that he could recover - I would be interested.
I get keeping Rupert and Cissoko because they are also young. I don't get keeping Love and Cooke and would rather take a gamble on a Whitehead "type" player.
McBride is a different ilk - that would take a trade to pull off. I guess you get where I am going with this.
Don't know anything about Whiteheads game, but will take your word on it, and give Love's spot to Whitehead. I have completely given up on Love.
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Dariq Whitehead just got waived. He can also play SG/SF. He would be a terrific 2-way, IMO (over someone like Love).
As did Drew Timme, only 25yrs old, would rather have him as a 3rd string center than 29yr old Reath, who serves little\no purpose on this team IMO. If Drew Eubanks can make a career as a b\u in this league, Timme should as well
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15.4 - 9.2 - 2.8 - 44%/25.7% - eFG% 48.5% DRTG 117
14.9 - 7.1 - 2 - 42.2%/32.1% - eFG% 52.4% DRTG 116
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Walton1one wrote:Dariq Whitehead just got waived. He can also play SG/SF. He would be a terrific 2-way, IMO (over someone like Love).
As did Drew Timme, only 25yrs old, would rather have him as a 3rd string center than 29yr old Reath, who serves little\no purpose on this team IMO. If Drew Eubanks can make a career as a b\u in this league, Timme should as well
Per 36
15.4 - 9.2 - 2.8 - 44%/25.7% - eFG% 48.5% DRTG 117
14.9 - 7.1 - 2 - 42.2%/32.1% - eFG% 52.4% DRTG 116
Reath has a bit of mobility at least. Timme is basically Pat Burke (Went deep for that comparison lol).
Eubanks is a pretty great athlete FWIW. And is tough as nails. Easier to pencil him as a 3rd string C than a guy like Timme whos best trait usage based (Scoring middies mostly).
I could see a swing for Whitehead but the guy is quickly approaching Elliot Williams territory. Blake Wesley at least has shown a motor at times.
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BlazersBroncos wrote:Walton1one wrote:Dariq Whitehead just got waived. He can also play SG/SF. He would be a terrific 2-way, IMO (over someone like Love).
As did Drew Timme, only 25yrs old, would rather have him as a 3rd string center than 29yr old Reath, who serves little\no purpose on this team IMO. If Drew Eubanks can make a career as a b\u in this league, Timme should as well
Per 36
15.4 - 9.2 - 2.8 - 44%/25.7% - eFG% 48.5% DRTG 117
14.9 - 7.1 - 2 - 42.2%/32.1% - eFG% 52.4% DRTG 116
Reath has a bit of mobility at least. Timme is basically Pat Burke (Went deep for that comparison lol).
Eubanks is a pretty great athlete FWIW. And is tough as nails. Easier to pencil him as a 3rd string C than a guy like Timme whos best trait usage based (Scoring middies mostly).
I could see a swing for Whitehead but the guy is quickly approaching Elliot Williams territory. Blake Wesley at least has shown a motor at times.
Jabari could've shored up some depth and almkst went for nothing. Pretty disappointed we didnt waive duop we already know what he can do
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I think Timme is underrated, not a starter by any means but a solid back up to a back up who will play hard and won't rock the boat. I watched some of the BRK games (rough watch) and he had some nice moments. He has limitations for sure but, sometimes a guy who lacks in certain areas but is smart and plays hard (and knows who they are) ends up more impactful to a team than "potential", especially when you are talking deep bench type players...
Moot point anyway, POR under this current front office would not be interested b\c he isn't long, athletic and he actualy can hit the broad side of a barn...
Moot point anyway, POR under this current front office would not be interested b\c he isn't long, athletic and he actualy can hit the broad side of a barn...
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