Simmons:Celtics will break 3pt attempts/game record.

knicksfan974 · Post #21 » by **knicksfan974** » Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:23 am

Disgusting, and I hope their scheme totally fails. Good luck to all fans who are forced to watch this nonsense.

Warspite · Post #22 » by **Warspite** » Tue Oct 14, 2025 2:58 am

Since they cant score inside it makes sense. No matter how many 3s they shoot the Celtics are going to have a top 3 pick in the 2026 draft.

if you want to counter the 3pt barrage you have to get the def rebounds and send runners out to dunk on the other end. If you shoot 100% from 2 you will always outscore 3pt shooting.

Triple M · Post #23 » by **Triple M** » Tue Oct 14, 2025 3:28 am

Mazzulla openly talks about taking things from other sports and especially european football. When he mentions 2 v 1 it sounds similar to creating over loads in football. In practice he has his guys doing something to similar to rondos.

I expectthe Celtics will be more about attacking space and not necessarily shoot a lot of 3s. Also with teams pressing in the back court more it could lead to mote variety of ways teams will look to score.

SerialChiller · Post #24 » by **SerialChiller** » Tue Oct 14, 2025 3:32 am

I hope teams keep going this route to the extreme to make even more of a mockery of the game until something is done about it. It's hard to watch but nothing will be done otherwise.

bonita_the_frog · Post #25 » by **bonita_the_frog** » Tue Oct 14, 2025 3:43 am

redslastlaugh wrote:I don't know that the league has to do anything, the problem seems to be taking care of itself.

OKC shot 33 3PTA per game last playoffs
IND shot 35 3PTA per game last playoffs

The teams gunning away all got knocked out by the teams using more advanced offense

Joshyjess wrote:the NBA needs to get rid of the three point shot, and go back to long 18 to 19 foot two point shots!!!!!!

Denver got knocked out by Aaron Gordon's injury.
And Boston didn't look like winning the championship last year, even before Tatum's injury...

Patsfan1081 · Post #26 » by **Patsfan1081** » Tue Oct 14, 2025 6:42 am

Everything coming from Boston I thought was that they wanted to shoot less threes and cut more.

levon · Post #27 » by **levon** » Tue Oct 14, 2025 6:54 am

How's this even possible given they lost two of their spacing bigs?

Sane · Post #28 » by **Sane** » Tue Oct 14, 2025 7:34 am

Yeah you tailor the offense to your personnel. Jaylen Brown, Hauser, Simons, Pritchard. These guys should take a ton of 3’s around Jaylen Browns drives. Brown will find a ton of space around him, taking pressure off his handle.

Offensively it will work.

Exp0sed · Post #29 » by **Exp0sed** » Tue Oct 14, 2025 7:41 am

HMFFL wrote:It's expected since Boston was last in points in the paint last season with 40.8. Denver ranked first with 56.5.

Teams in the Finals:
OKC ranked 12th with 50.4
Indiana ranked 14th with 49.1

When Boston won the NBA Finals in 23-24 they ranked 29th in points in the paint and only averaged 46.2. They already know they can win a championship with 3-point shooting being their primary focus.

You need big guys like Horford and KP in a 5 out lineup guys that massively space the floor to the max by their ability snd willingess to take and make a high volume of shots, mostly from the top of the key - to make that strategy work

doogie_hauser · Post #30 » by **doogie_hauser** » Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:03 am

I like and respect Bill Simmons but to suggest

Fencer reregistered · Post #31 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:07 am

redslastlaugh wrote:The Celtics under Mazzulla don't seem to deeply understand the concepts of conversion rate and variance. I'm a Celtics fan but I hope the team can generate more open looks & high percentage looks rather than trying to attempt so many 3PTAs. We really need to focus on offense more holistically so we can be more unpredictable and score from all over the court.

Our last three years, we won a title with a super loaded team and then these were the two other outcomes

1. We were upset by the 8th seed Heat (as a #1 seed), only second time an 8th seed advanced to the NBA Finals. We out attempted Miami by 60 3PTA
2. We were upset by the Knicks, in the 2nd worst Vegas oddsmaker upset (ex-1st round) since outlets have been handicapping NBA playoff series. We out attempted New York by 70 3PTA

Some fans are like 3>2 so why not shoot more threes, but 3's go in a lot less and are less durable over a playoff series. I'm tired of being upset by lesser teams by using this strategy. This offensive approach is hard to overcome sometimes, because it doesn't prioritize open shots nor high percentage shots.

My biggest takeaway from those two series is that Jayson Tatum should stop getting injuries in the postseason.

doogie_hauser · Post #32 » by **doogie_hauser** » Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:07 am

I like and respect Bill Simmons but to suggest he is a mouthpiece/representative of Joe Mazzulla and The Celtics is a load of naive crap.

Simmons is a (massively) paid troll who lives in LA fulltime.

He would have as much inside knowledge as me from Australia as what the Celtics game plan is this season.

Reckon he put that out there (Celtics attempting a record number of 3s) mostly to antagonise non Celtics fans tbh.

Mission accomplished from the sounds of it.

Fencer reregistered · Post #33 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:07 am

levon wrote:How's this even possible given they lost two of their spacing bigs?

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UcanUwill · Post #34 » by **UcanUwill** » Tue Oct 14, 2025 12:12 pm

Broadcaster wrote:I’ve never understood the hate with more outside shooting. It’s a game of points. More points wins. The skill set evolving to take advantage of the extra points seems logical. I know watching everyone chuck bad shots isn’t the idea, and a diverse NBA offence would be a good thing, but I think it inherently isn’t a bad trend.

I do not have to watch Boston, so I do not care, but I think they lost Knicks series because of their love for 3. They barely ran anything, how many times they just dribbled the ball pass the court and to just shot contested 3, it was happening all the time in that series and thas just not good offense, anyone can do that. There is a reason offensive systems exist.

Ssj16 · Post #35 » by **Ssj16** » Tue Oct 14, 2025 12:39 pm

doogie_hauser wrote:I like and respect Bill Simmons but to suggest he is a mouthpiece/representative of Joe Mazzulla and The Celtics is a load of naive crap.

Simmons is a (massively) paid troll who lives in LA fulltime.

He would have as much inside knowledge as me from Australia as what the Celtics game plan is this season.

Reckon he put that out there (Celtics attempting a record number of 3s) mostly to antagonise non Celtics fans tbh.

Mission accomplished from the sounds of it.

If you listen to the podcast, which I did, this isn't a claim of inside knowledge. He was just speculating as a fan which we all do on these boards.

Roger Murdock · Post #36 » by **Roger Murdock** » Tue Oct 14, 2025 12:48 pm

People talking about how losing Horford / Zingus means the lack of bigs will hold them back

I’m thinking the other way. They have the worst bigs in the NBA. They are going to play more minutes to guards and wings than any other team in the NBA.

Their best players are all perimeter guys.

Brown, White, Pritchard, Simons, Houser, Boucher + a few boarderline guards

That’s the core of the rotation. I’d expect their top 5 guys in minutes played to bomb 3s

Exp0sed · Post #37 » by **Exp0sed** » Tue Oct 14, 2025 2:57 pm

Roger Murdock wrote:People talking about how losing Horford / Zingus means the lack of bigs will hold them back

I’m thinking the other way. They have the worst bigs in the NBA. They are going to play more minutes to guards and wings than any other team in the NBA.

Their best players are all perimeter guys.

Brown, White, Pritchard, Simons, Houser, Boucher + a few boarderline guards

That’s the core of the rotation. I’d expect their top 5 guys in minutes played to bomb 3s

You make it sound so simple..load on guards and "bomb 3's"

They seriously lack self creation and aren't an inside threat. That makes the 3's much easier to defend. they have just Brown that can atrract defensive attention, collapse the defense etc.

Also, that lineup you outlined will get murdered on the glass on both ends and defending vs. that lineup will be fairly easy and very non-taxing physically, which means their opponents will have extra energy to use on the offensive side of the ball

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tamaraw08 · Post #38 » by **tamaraw08** » Tue Oct 14, 2025 3:10 pm

levon wrote:How's this even possible given they lost two of their spacing bigs?

They can use their current bigs as screeners for their shooters?

levon · Post #39 » by **levon** » Tue Oct 14, 2025 3:36 pm

tamaraw08 wrote:
levon wrote:How's this even possible given they lost two of their spacing bigs?

They can use their current bigs as screeners for their shooters?

Come on. Their 3pt volume was predicated on them being a 5 out team at all times and putting up shots quickly in transition. They're not gonna get that volume playing 4 out lineups. Boucher is their only viable facsimile of a 5 who can shoot.

Sure theoretically any team can spam 3s shamelessly and break this record. I'm saying it's an unlikely outcome for this iteration of the Celtics.

sp6r=underrated · Post #40 » by **sp6r=underrated** » Tue Oct 14, 2025 3:52 pm

Broadcaster wrote:I’ve never understood the hate with more outside shooting. It’s a game of points. More points wins. The skill set evolving to take advantage of the extra points seems logical. I know watching everyone chuck bad shots isn’t the idea, and a diverse NBA offence would be a good thing, but I think it inherently isn’t a bad trend.

Shooting more threes will improve your offense. The sky-rocketing league offensive rating is conclusive proof this strategy works.

Critics of the strategy aren't disputing that it works. They are arguing that it isn't fun to watch.