Brewers/Dodgers NLCS - Game 4 Friday - 7:38PM CST

[jakecronus8]

Pitch counts do matter. More than innings IMO. Uribe threw 22 in his 2 innings Saturday night. There was 2 times in September where he threw more than 22 pitches and next pitched on 1 day rest. And gave up no runs. In August he had a 27 pitch outing and came back the next day and gave up no runs. In July he threw 23 against the Dodgers and came back on one day rest and shut down Seattle. In May he threw 36, came back on one day rest and allowed no runs. I guess my point is he's come back from throwing that many pitches (more actually) on one day rest (or no days rest) and has been great. Every single time this season. I just don't buy in to the "it didn't work so it was the wrong move" theory. Especially when it's worked under the same situation 100% of the time this season. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

I've heard a lot of pitchers say the innings are more relevant than the pitches, mainly because of the process of pumping up your adrenaline and focus only to stop and restart over and over again.

eta: I'm guessing when it comes to long term fatigue over the course of a season and overall arm health, total pitches matter a lot more. You only have so many violent unnatural movements like that in ya before the body says nope.

[jakecronus8]

The lesson to be learned from last night, imo, is you need to attack the zone, be aggressive and let the chips fall as they may. Snell did it all night and the Brewers' tightness/aggressiveness combined with LA's defense gave him a gem. He pitched out of the stretch for 5 total pitches in 8 innings.

Can't walk guys. They got away with it for the most part but it's a matter of time before it bites you in the ass.

[MickeyDavis]

I don't discount the difference between going 1 inning and 2. Staying focused longer. It's a factor. But for Uribe it was one time and 2 days prior.

I guess I trust Murphy and Hook with pitching, they've done more with less all season.

[MickeyDavis]

Really hope Freddy can go 6 tonight, something he's done once in his last 7 starts. If he's pitching well it will be interesting to see how long they'll let him go. He doesn't pitch again until next Monday.

[coolhandluke121]

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

I think the main reason we disagree is that I trust some of the other relievers more than most people. The whole identity of the team is trusting everyone and valuing everyone's contributions. Hate to see them go away from that now, especially when the other guys probably need some work to stay sharp - regardless of whether you agree that Patrick and Uribe should have rested, which can never be proven either way.

It's kind of the same with Yelich almost always DH'ing against LHPs for months now. I just don't like how it goes against the team identity when he hasn't been consistently effective against LHPs for years now. Give more guys a chance to contribute. I miss that magic.

[MVP2110]

The bullpen is in rough shape tonight, regardless of whether Murph made the right call last night(I think there are good arguments both ways), but that doesn't change the fact that tonight we are either going to need to rely on overworked arms or some of our lesser pen arms to come through.

[humanrefutation]

Peralta can save a lot of angst by going 7 strong and turning it over to a couple relievers. A 5 inning Freddy special where he gives up a 3 run blast won't do it for me.

[MickeyDavis]

Yamamoto has gone over 100 pitches in 2 of his last 5 starts (108 and 113), Roberts will stick with him a long time if he's pitching well. And he won't pitch again until next Monday. I really hope we can get to him as we did in our long start against him in July, he didn't make it out of the first inning.

[Siefer]

The bats need to be functional for us to win this series. We've been swinging a lot and often, and that makes things much easier on a great staff.

[Ron Swanson]

Yeah, pitching isn't gonna be the story of this series if the bats are gonna be this cold. 4 runs in the last 3-games ain't gonna cut it. Snell was on one last night, but this Dodgers staff is very hittable. Work some long AB's and get to their bullpen.

[paulpressey25]

The bats need to be functional for us to win this series. We've been swinging a lot and often, and that makes things much easier on a great staff.

Yep.

The pitching has by and large been great. We just don’t have big payroll hitters. And Yellich has to finally do something at the plate.

[DanoMac]

And Yellich has to finally do something at the plate.

Guy looks completely broken at the plate right now

[Ron Swanson]

At least Yelich is still getting on base. Your two best hitters (Brice and Sal) can't be such a combined bucket of ass when you're a team that's built on contact and getting guys on the basepaths. Wake the **** up, boys.

[coolhandluke121]

The bats need to be functional for us to win this series. We've been swinging a lot and often, and that makes things much easier on a great staff.

Part of me is still kind of wondering whether Snell was really that hard to hit last night. At some point, don't you just tame your swing down a little to work against his off-speed stuff? He was spamming everyone nearly all night. Are they hunting homers too much after two 3-homer games against the Cubs?

[trwi7]

Your two best hitters (Brice and Sal)

lol what?

[Profound23]

The bats need to be functional for us to win this series. We've been swinging a lot and often, and that makes things much easier on a great staff.

Yep.

The pitching has by and large been great. We just don’t have big payroll hitters. And Yellich has to finally do something at the plate.

This is what scares me. I can see the team finally putting together a couple of 6-7 run games and the pitchers falling apart. This bullpen has been insane.

[JimmyTheKid]

Yeah, we need bats in the lineup. Wonder if Murph would sacrifice defense for some pop. Vaughn at 1B and Bauers at DH?

[Ron Swanson]

Your two best hitters (Brice and Sal)

lol what?

I mean, they were literally the Top-2 regular starters in batting average on the roster. Obviously I'm not talking about hitting for power.

[trwi7]

Your two best hitters (Brice and Sal)

lol what?

I mean, they were literally the Top-2 regular starters in batting average on the roster. Obviously I'm not talking about hitting for power.

Batting average means dick and "at least Yelich is getting on base" has a .235 OBP in the last 4 games. He's being bolstered by his 3 hit game in game 2. For this offense to work, Yelich needs to not be a bucket of ass and he has been a giant bucket of ass.

[humanrefutation]

Yeah, Yeli has been absolute trash.