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Post#1421 » by -Jragon- » Yesterday 4:33 am

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-Jragon- wrote:Who do you want back? Nwora? Marjon? They are probably still available

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Available?


Maybe! Or if GA leaves anyways, we can wait until CP3 is available and sign him and his whole family instead. Or maybe KM has some really sweaty brothers.
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Post#1422 » by FlagsFlyForever » Yesterday 4:56 am

Signing Alex isn't ideal but losing Giannis is less ideal.
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Post#1423 » by midranger » Yesterday 7:38 am

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LISTEN2JAZZ wrote:When you sign someone who is so clearly not an NBA player, you’re really rolling the dice on a salary cap circumvention punishment. I don’t support this at all, and would rather deal with needing to trade Giannis.


Bronny says hi. Where do you draw the enforcement line?


If the league didn't come after the Knicks and Rick Brunson for tampering, I can't imagine we have anything to worry about.

But seriously, I think we're ok here.

Of course it’s fine. We signed a player, using a roster spot, within the confines of the current CBA.

The bucks can sign whoever they want F they want as long as it conforms to the CBA. Hard to circumvent the cap, while conforming to it.
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Post#1424 » by Brewhoopfan » Yesterday 1:21 pm

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What this team needs is more Antetokoumpos! Hire another to coach the team, drive the bus, and fly the plane. Whatever it takes to keep Giannis happy. Doesn't bother me at all.

More importantly: KPJ with 14 assists and 2 turnovers through 3 games & pleasantly surprised by Anthony's passing as well.
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Post#1425 » by emunney » Yesterday 1:26 pm

midranger wrote:
emunney wrote:
stillgotgame wrote:
Bronny says hi. Where do you draw the enforcement line?


If the league didn't come after the Knicks and Rick Brunson for tampering, I can't imagine we have anything to worry about.

But seriously, I think we're ok here.

Of course it’s fine. We signed a player, using a roster spot, within the confines of the current CBA.

The bucks can sign whoever they want F they want as long as it conforms to the CBA. Hard to circumvent the cap, while conforming to it.


There probably is a line somewhere that would draw additional scrutiny. Somewhere between signing Alex and signing Veronica.
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Post#1426 » by tydett » Yesterday 1:31 pm

emunney wrote:
midranger wrote:
emunney wrote:
If the league didn't come after the Knicks and Rick Brunson for tampering, I can't imagine we have anything to worry about.

But seriously, I think we're ok here.

Of course it’s fine. We signed a player, using a roster spot, within the confines of the current CBA.

The bucks can sign whoever they want F they want as long as it conforms to the CBA. Hard to circumvent the cap, while conforming to it.


There probably is a line somewhere that would draw additional scrutiny. Somewhere between signing Alex and signing Veronica.


Think Veronica would have to enter the draft first, right? Would be chaotic levels of funny to see Utah or some other shoddy franchise (honestly the Bucks) blow a second round pick to select a 60 year old mom.
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Post#1427 » by emunney » Yesterday 1:51 pm

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midranger wrote:Of course it’s fine. We signed a player, using a roster spot, within the confines of the current CBA.

The bucks can sign whoever they want F they want as long as it conforms to the CBA. Hard to circumvent the cap, while conforming to it.


There probably is a line somewhere that would draw additional scrutiny. Somewhere between signing Alex and signing Veronica.


Think Veronica would have to enter the draft first, right? Would be chaotic levels of funny to see Utah or some other shoddy franchise (honestly the Bucks) blow a second round pick to select a 60 year old mom.


She was auto-eligible the year she turned 22 and went undrafted. I could have said Francis and it'd still be true. The key is having a plausible claim that you have divergent scouting and actually Alex could be a viable NBA player with the right guidance, so it's important that the person is stridently pursuing a basketball playing career and is achieving it to some degree. I'm sure there are some cases they could dig up of guys who've been signed or drafted who superficially are less believable than Alex. "Why doesn't this standard apply to Joe Chealey?" or whatever.
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Post#1428 » by Licensed to Il » Yesterday 3:01 pm

If Hollywood can cast Frank Stalone to be in movies, I see no problem with signing Alex Antetokounmpo
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Post#1429 » by paulpressey25 » Yesterday 5:40 pm

Licensed to Il wrote:If Hollywood can cast Frank Stalone to be in movies, I see no problem with signing Alex Antetokounmpo


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Post#1430 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Yesterday 8:16 pm

mattg wrote:I think Alex is legitimately the worst player who has "made" the NBA in history. He was never even good enough to go low major D-1, so to make the league is incredible :lol:


yeah you got it right....and dont believe the guys here that want to convince you that there is "no cost" either. its not a huge cost to not have a bouyea-type and to have an alex but that spot could go to literally like tens of thousands of other dudes growing into their games with some upside. you want to take swings on guys that are like top 1000 on the planet. not guys that are top 100.000 on the planet. if we used this philosophy on the entire roster it would be hilarious how bad we'd be

i mean...i get why tho....it would just be nice if giannis wasnt being a massive dick about it. he already destroyed dames legacy. proved he couldnt win **** on his own. needs serious help fit and otherwise. it would be great if he truly committed and was like....find some dudes that can shoot AND dudes that can play defense AND score off their own isos in the half court AND stay healthy AND play cheap.....find that for me horsty. tell the horst man that his brothers are prime for real estate oppurtunitys and some extra cash merch'ing bucks gear but that their also too much like me and that raises some serious challenges right? horsty you see that right?
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Post#1431 » by JimmyTheKid » Yesterday 8:27 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
mattg wrote:I think Alex is legitimately the worst player who has "made" the NBA in history. He was never even good enough to go low major D-1, so to make the league is incredible :lol:


yeah you got it right....and dont believe the guys here that want to convince you that there is "no cost" either. its not a huge cost to not have a bouyea-type and to have an alex but that spot could go to literally like tens of thousands of other dudes growing into their games with some upside. you want to take swings on guys that are like top 1000 on the planet. not guys that are top 100.000 on the planet. if we used this philosophy on the entire roster it would be hilarious how bad we'd be

i mean...i get why tho....it would just be nice if giannis wasnt being dickish about it


Again, Elijah Bryant, Mamadi Diakite, Jordan Nwora, and Justin Jackson won rings with the Bucks in 2021. The bottom of the roster is constantly tweaked over the course of any season. Alex's 2-way spot is a non-issue.
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Post#1432 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Yesterday 8:29 pm

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GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
mattg wrote:I think Alex is legitimately the worst player who has "made" the NBA in history. He was never even good enough to go low major D-1, so to make the league is incredible :lol:


yeah you got it right....and dont believe the guys here that want to convince you that there is "no cost" either. its not a huge cost to not have a bouyea-type and to have an alex but that spot could go to literally like tens of thousands of other dudes growing into their games with some upside. you want to take swings on guys that are like top 1000 on the planet. not guys that are top 100.000 on the planet. if we used this philosophy on the entire roster it would be hilarious how bad we'd be

i mean...i get why tho....it would just be nice if giannis wasnt being dickish about it


Again, Elijah Bryant, Mamadi Diakite, Jordan Nwora, and Justin Jackson won rings with the Bucks in 2021. The bottom of the roster is constantly tweaked over the course of any season. Alex's 2-way spot is a non-issue.


would you like examples of guys that are producing now in this league out of those spots? whataboutism doesnt interest me in this debate. it cuts both ways. id suggest we try to get better with all roster spots now that giannis is posturing for an exit.

but as it relates today.....alex is a bum. thanasis is done as a bum. how many bums would you suggest we can keep if it means keeping giannis? should it be more? or less bums?...... if giannis is signaling his way out whats the exact number of bums we should keep on the roster?
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Post#1433 » by emunney » Yesterday 8:38 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
JimmyTheKid wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
yeah you got it right....and dont believe the guys here that want to convince you that there is "no cost" either. its not a huge cost to not have a bouyea-type and to have an alex but that spot could go to literally like tens of thousands of other dudes growing into their games with some upside. you want to take swings on guys that are like top 1000 on the planet. not guys that are top 100.000 on the planet. if we used this philosophy on the entire roster it would be hilarious how bad we'd be

i mean...i get why tho....it would just be nice if giannis wasnt being dickish about it


Again, Elijah Bryant, Mamadi Diakite, Jordan Nwora, and Justin Jackson won rings with the Bucks in 2021. The bottom of the roster is constantly tweaked over the course of any season. Alex's 2-way spot is a non-issue.


would you like examples of guys that are producing now in this league out of those spots? whataboutism doesnt interest me in this debate. it cuts both ways. id suggest we try to get better with all roster spots now that giannis is posturing for an exit.

but as it relates today.....alex is a bum. thanasis is done as a bum. how many bums would you suggest we can keep if it means keeping giannis? should it be more? or less bums?...... if giannis is signaling his way out whats the exact number of bums we should keep on the roster?


How many would you be ok with us having on the roster if we win the championship?
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Post#1434 » by nagawicka » Yesterday 9:19 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
mattg wrote:I think Alex is legitimately the worst player who has "made" the NBA in history. He was never even good enough to go low major D-1, so to make the league is incredible :lol:


yeah you got it right....and dont believe the guys here that want to convince you that there is "no cost" either. its not a huge cost to not have a bouyea-type and to have an alex but that spot could go to literally like tens of thousands of other dudes growing into their games with some upside. you want to take swings on guys that are like top 1000 on the planet. not guys that are top 100.000 on the planet. if we used this philosophy on the entire roster it would be hilarious how bad we'd be

i mean...i get why tho....it would just be nice if giannis wasnt being a massive dick about it. he already destroyed dames legacy. proved he couldnt win **** on his own. needs serious help fit and otherwise. it would be great if he truly committed and was like....find some dudes that can shoot AND dudes that can play defense AND score off their own isos in the half court AND stay healthy AND play cheap.....find that for me horsty. tell the horst man that his brothers are prime for real estate oppurtunitys and some extra cash merch'ing bucks gear but that their also too much like me and that raises some serious challenges right? horsty you see that right?

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Post#1435 » by MickeyDavis » Yesterday 9:39 pm

So on this page we have Giannis "ruining Dame's legacy" and anguish over Bouyeah being waived.

Oh and the guy who scored 50 on a bum leg to win a championship "can't win anything on his own".

What in the actual ****? Seriously, WTF
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Post#1436 » by ABucksFan » Yesterday 9:57 pm

Been gone all summer, wtf did i come back to lol.
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Post#1437 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Yesterday 9:57 pm

emunney wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
JimmyTheKid wrote:
Again, Elijah Bryant, Mamadi Diakite, Jordan Nwora, and Justin Jackson won rings with the Bucks in 2021. The bottom of the roster is constantly tweaked over the course of any season. Alex's 2-way spot is a non-issue.


would you like examples of guys that are producing now in this league out of those spots? whataboutism doesnt interest me in this debate. it cuts both ways. id suggest we try to get better with all roster spots now that giannis is posturing for an exit.

but as it relates today.....alex is a bum. thanasis is done as a bum. how many bums would you suggest we can keep if it means keeping giannis? should it be more? or less bums?...... if giannis is signaling his way out whats the exact number of bums we should keep on the roster?


How many would you be ok with us having on the roster if we win the championship?


5-7 bums easy.. im more just assessing the current situation as it relates to the dynamic in general. its sad and annoying but also extremely practical
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Post#1438 » by Ron Swanson » Yesterday 9:59 pm

The Body Language Police stuff with Giannis is just as dumb as it has been with any other player (Dame, Jabari, Khris, etc.) I've witnessed in my time on this board. I don't know what it is about people's desire to project their crippling insecurities onto players they dislike/have an aggressively lame agenda against, but it'll never not be weird. Doubly weird to all of a sudden become an anti-Giannis guy after 13-years of him being the most loyal superstar of the modern NBA era, even acknowledging that yes, like Giannis himself said, that can change in 6-7 months from now. But I guess for some, he's either an indentured servant beholden to only one franchise and how dare he think of ever leaving!, or he's just a **** loser who can't win by himself (who ever has?).
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Post#1439 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Yesterday 10:03 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:So on this page we have Giannis "ruining Dame's legacy" and anguish over Bouyeah being waived.

Oh and the guy who scored 50 on a bum leg to win a championship "can't win anything on his own".

What in the actual ****? Seriously, WTF


would dame describe it any other way? how was dame viewed before he got here and how is he viewed now? giannis clamored for him and then what?

screw bouyeah. he was the wrong guy to begin with. but alex is worse by a mile. dont miss the point.

giannis had a great finals. luckily for him the nets were in a bus crash and midds, jrue and lopez handled business against atlanta. his finals was epic against the one hit wonder suns but then what exactly since? been a tough 4 years for guys that are worried about their "legacy" who play with him

so yeah... what the actual **** when he comes out and says hes all about loyalty but also enjoys exploring options each summer and looking for the best place "he can win". im supposed to be like what exactly? or can i be like what "the actual **** exactly" instead?

word on the street is the knicks said he cant win on his own. hmmmmm.......what they want him in a role? brunson is untouchable? maybe he can win another one if they keep brunson as his batman?

yeah...the well is poisoned for me man. thats all. lets enjoy the game tonight. i'll stay upbeat but this season isnt looking good imo. im annoyed af after as upbeat as i was with all the reports about how committed he was to milwaukee. got to be tough for the owner to be called a liar over it but lets see how we do right?
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Post#1440 » by ShootingtheJ » Yesterday 11:12 pm

JimmyTheKid wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
mattg wrote:I think Alex is legitimately the worst player who has "made" the NBA in history. He was never even good enough to go low major D-1, so to make the league is incredible :lol:


yeah you got it right....and dont believe the guys here that want to convince you that there is "no cost" either. its not a huge cost to not have a bouyea-type and to have an alex but that spot could go to literally like tens of thousands of other dudes growing into their games with some upside. you want to take swings on guys that are like top 1000 on the planet. not guys that are top 100.000 on the planet. if we used this philosophy on the entire roster it would be hilarious how bad we'd be

i mean...i get why tho....it would just be nice if giannis wasnt being dickish about it


Again, Elijah Bryant, Mamadi Diakite, Jordan Nwora, and Justin Jackson won rings with the Bucks in 2021. The bottom of the roster is constantly tweaked over the course of any season. Alex's 2-way spot is a non-issue.


Sure, but just because we bad around the edges doesn't mean we shouldn't try to be good. We do have success stories in AJ Green and Ryan Rollins. Patty C went from 15th man to draining clutch 3s in the Finals.

I'm fine with Alex here, but also acknowledge that there's better options.

We should open a spot for Trentyn Flowers. Better prospect than Livingston, or any of our 2 way guys. Flowers improved immensely during last season, but was just cut by the Clippers. The same team that cut Moussa Diabite last year. Diabite might be a starting veneer this year. I wanted Diabite last year, but this is an even better opportunity

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