The last Antetokounmpo added to the Bucks payroll

[pepe1991]

I dont undestand what good comes out of this for them though. For Giannis, tt seems quite selfish and not at all in the best interest of the team to do this. I know it's just a two way, but if you actually cared that much about winning, you would not get in the way of the FO making the best movies possible.

Plus nobody will respect his brother as a player, just like Bronny.

Giannis said, hey, my brother sucks, can you get him in the G-league so he can try to get better and I can work with him, and they said, "sure, we can put him on a two way".

Two way players are your 16, 17 and 18th men on the team

Alex is 24.
Putting him in G league to "develop" is like saying to your GF "hey, i bought condoms" as she is in delivery room.

Alex simply isn't talented to be in any serious basketball league, let alone NBA. Not even G league.

Everything about Giannis is him pretending to be "good guy" while being biggest nepotism offender in nba history.
Greece national team is forced to use his talentless brothers.
Bucks basketball team is forced to pay and keep his talentless brothers.

People made fun of Lavar. Lavar at least had 2/3 nba level players. Giannis situation is way worst.

[UcanUwill]

Kostas and Thanasis are only on the Greek national team because they are Giannis' brothers. Everyone saying otherwise, including the tangent of Greek posters here that defend it, are totally unaware of any Greek players outside if the NBA and Olympiacos and Panathinaikos.

Neither one of them would even get a camp invite on their own.

Every summer there are like 5 or more better Greek players than them that don't even get invited to the national team.

Neither one of them is even remotely near to being one of the 12 best Greek players. Neither one of them has ever been close to being one of the 12 best Greek players.

Neither one of them has ever been close to being one of the 2 to 3 best Greek players at their positions.

Thats not true, at least Kostas had legit good moments this summer for Greek NT, if not him, maybe my Lithuania would have beeten Greece, but he was great in that game. Greeks had Kalaitzakis, Samuodurov, Larentazakis making NT, these guys aren't any better than Thanasis and Kostas. Kostas is pretty athletically gifted, he just has very low BBIQ, he is similar to someone like Javale McGee, but a bit less talented, so he is not a guy you could ever rely in big role, but for those 10 minutes, he had his moments swating shots and running and dunking.

[Handlez]

Lol

Everything is political and rigged.

Another one.

There's dudes playing street ball that would bust NBA ass.

[Myth]

Bronny averaged 23/6/6 with 2 steals on 59.1 TS% in the G-League, he actually does belong there, so this is incorrect. Kostas also averaged 12/7 on 58% FG in his two G-League seasons, so yes, both of those guys are clearly G-League level players, Alex on the other hand has not shown himself to be a pro quality player, but this is also a two way contract, so who cares.

That’s an interesting rounding up job, but in general your point is valid.

I accidentally looked at his per 36, sorry, lol, 22/5/5

That makes sense. I was trying to figure out if you got the stats from an unreliable source or something, because they were close enough to correct to not change the point you were making.

[og15]

I dont undestand what good comes out of this for them though. For Giannis, tt seems quite selfish and not at all in the best interest of the team to do this. I know it's just a two way, but if you actually cared that much about winning, you would not get in the way of the FO making the best movies possible.

Plus nobody will respect his brother as a player, just like Bronny.

Giannis said, hey, my brother sucks, can you get him in the G-league so he can try to get better and I can work with him, and they said, "sure, we can put him on a two way".

Two way players are your 16, 17 and 18th men on the team

Alex is 24.
Putting him in G league to "develop" is like saying to your GF "hey, i bought condoms" as she is in delivery room.

Alex simply isn't talented to be in any serious basketball league, let alone NBA. Not even G league.

Everything about Giannis is him pretending to be "good guy" while being biggest nepotism offender in nba history.
Greece national team is forced to use his talentless brothers.
Bucks basketball team is forced to pay and keep his talentless brothers.

People made fun of Lavar. Lavar at least had 2/3 nba level players. Giannis situation is way worst.

I'm not saying it makes sense, I'm just making up a way it might have been discussed.

Also remember that two way players aren't necessarily young guys, lots of mid 20's guys on two way contracts. He's replacing a 26 year old.

[Mirotic12]

I dont undestand what good comes out of this for them though. For Giannis, tt seems quite selfish and not at all in the best interest of the team to do this. I know it's just a two way, but if you actually cared that much about winning, you would not get in the way of the FO making the best movies possible.

Plus nobody will respect his brother as a player, just like Bronny.

Giannis said, hey, my brother sucks, can you get him in the G-league so he can try to get better and I can work with him, and they said, "sure, we can put him on a two way".

Two way players are your 16, 17 and 18th men on the team

Is he really going to get that much better working with Giannis and in the G League, when he could not make the rotation of multiple mid-level Greek teams? Keep in mind, those teams generally have a 10 to 11 man rotation. He was either out of the active 12 man roster, or DNP-CD the whole time.

How much upside is there right now for a 24 year old player that realistically should probably be playing in a European national second division somewhere?

Honestly, the developmental improvement of players in Greece's second division is better than it is in G League.

[og15]

I dont undestand what good comes out of this for them though. For Giannis, tt seems quite selfish and not at all in the best interest of the team to do this. I know it's just a two way, but if you actually cared that much about winning, you would not get in the way of the FO making the best movies possible.

Plus nobody will respect his brother as a player, just like Bronny.

Giannis said, hey, my brother sucks, can you get him in the G-league so he can try to get better and I can work with him, and they said, "sure, we can put him on a two way".

Two way players are your 16, 17 and 18th men on the team

Is he really going to get that much better worlong with Giannis and in the G League, when he could not make the rotation of multiple mid-level Greek teams? Keep in mind, those teams generally have a 10 to 11 man rotation. He was either out of the active 12 man roster, or DNP-CD the whole time.

How much upside is there right now for a 24 year old player that realistically should be probably be playing in European national second division somewhere?

Honestly, the developmental improvement of players in Greece's second division is better than it is in G League.

Read my post above, in not sure the Bucks care very much, as he's basically their 18th man. It's exactly the kind of roster spot you can use as a throw away for a favor (if that's how you decide to roll).

Here's a list of all the two way contracts this year:

https://gleague.nba.com/twowayplayers

Pete Nance is another two way player for Milwaukee, he's 25, 26 in February, two way contracts aren't all super young guys. Jamaree Bouyea who they waived to sign Alex is 26 years old


Clippers have had Jordan Miller, 25 years old, 26 in Jan on two way for some time.

[Mirotic12]

Kostas and Thanasis are only on the Greek national team because they are Giannis' brothers. Everyone saying otherwise, including the tangent of Greek posters here that defend it, are totally unaware of any Greek players outside if the NBA and Olympiacos and Panathinaikos.

Neither one of them would even get a camp invite on their own.

Every summer there are like 5 or more better Greek players than them that don't even get invited to the Greek national team.

Neither one of them is even remotely near to being one of the 12 best Greek players. Neither one of them has ever been close to being one of the 12 best Greek players.

Neither one of them has ever been close to being one of the 2 to 3 best Greek players at their positions.

Thats not true, at least Kostas had legit good moments this summer for Greek NT, if not him, maybe my Lithuania would have beeten Greece, but he was great in that game. Greeks had Kalaitzakis, Samuodurov, Larentazakis making NT, these guys aren't any better than Thanasis and Kostas. Kostas is pretty athletically gifted, he just has very low BBIQ, he is similar to someone like Javale McGee, but a bit less talented, so he is not a guy you could ever rely in big role, but for those 10 minutes, he had his moments swating shots and running and dunking.

Yes it is true. It's very true. Kostas isn't a top 9 Greek center, yet he is automatically invited to the national team.

Giannis
Georgios Papagiannis
Alex Samodurov
Georgios Tsalmpouris
Vangelis Zougris
Dimitris Agravanis
Zach Auguste
Costis Gontikas
Vassilis Kavvadas

That's 9 Greek players that should be ahead of Kostas on the Greek national team center depth chart, if nepotism is removed from the equation.

I'm not even going to bother listing all the Greek players that are better than Thanasis, and that don't get invited to the Greek national team. Because Thanasis is variously used at different positions, so it's a bunch of players.

But unlike Kostas, Thanasis doesn't even provide the Greek national team with size, being a 6'7" backup 4/5.

And as far as the nepotism with Thanasis being on the Bucks' active roster is concerned, Thanasis is basically a poor man's version of American player Nate Renfro. Renfro plays in European secondary leagues like the FIBA BCL and the fourth tier level FIBA Europe Cup, with non EuroLeague Greek and Italian clubs.

Not only is Nate Renfro a better version of Thanasis, he's also five years younger than Thanasis is, and unlike Thanasis, he did not recently blowout his achilles.

When was the last time any NBA team showed any interest in Nate Renfro, who is a better, healthier, and younger version of Thanasis?

[bisme37]

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[MemphisX]

If Ja brought a title to Memphis, they could sign his daughter to a two way and I would be fine with it.

[maverick_41]

Pour Orlando Magic fans... now they realize that all Doc Rivers had to do was to hire Tim Duncan's wife as the 12th player to allow her on the team's flights...

[ReggiesKnicks]

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I don't think most people want to live under an Authoritarian Regime, and when you have ties to different countries in the world, then going to one of them where you have family makes a lot of sense.

[Enso]

Hope all the people complaining about bronny put equal energy into this

Dude, Giannis is a horrible brother for putting his siblings in this situation. Now people will look at them and consider them imposters.

Giannis is teaching his siblings that you don't have to work hard to make the NBA.

Also, why don't the Bucks use the roster spot to sign Carlos Delfino?? They need perimeter players now that Lillard is gone. No one knows what's going on in their minds, but I'm sure his brothers feel resentment and need therapy now.

Carlos Delfino wut

[The4thHorseman]

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I don't think most people want to live under an Authoritarian Regime, and when you have ties to different countries in the world, then going to one of them where you have family makes a lot of sense.

[Packbuckman]

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He also said he is loyal that Milwaukee gave him everything and he wants to be in Milwaukee and win another title in Milwaukee. I really like this bucks team this year going to surprise a lot of people bet the over on wins!!

[One Last Shot]

Hope all the people complaining about bronny put equal energy into this

Both cases are equally pathetic.

In reality, neither Broonie, nor Kostas nor Alex belong even in G league, let alone nba. Nepotism isn't helping Lakers / Bucks, it just puts stain on Giannis & Lebron's legacy as entitled spoiled brats who use power to manipulate teams , hindering chances of own team for winning ,because those guys are nothing but wasted roster spots.

In reality? What a stupid take. If someone like Bronny who averaged 22/5/5/2 in 59 TS% and shot 38% 3PT in 8.4 attempts per game don't deserve to play in G league then who tf is worthy enough to play there when in reality, G league or formerly known as National Basketball Development League is actually built to develop young players like him. Some people here just really have dumb opinion and for them that"s their reality.

[AussieBuck]

Kostas and Thanasis are only on the Greek national team because they are Giannis' brothers. Everyone saying otherwise, including the tangent of Greek posters here that defend it, are totally unaware of any Greek players outside if the NBA and Olympiacos and Panathinaikos.

Neither one of them would even get a camp invite on their own.

Every summer there are like 5 or more better Greek players than them that don't even get invited to the national team.

Neither one of them is even remotely near to being one of the 12 best Greek players. Neither one of them has ever been close to being one of the 12 best Greek players.

Neither one of them has ever been close to being one of the 2 to 3 best Greek players at their positions.

Thats not true, at least Kostas had legit good moments this summer for Greek NT, if not him, maybe my Lithuania would have beeten Greece, but he was great in that game. Greeks had Kalaitzakis, Samuodurov, Larentazakis making NT, these guys aren't any better than Thanasis and Kostas. Kostas is pretty athletically gifted, he just has very low BBIQ, he is similar to someone like Javale McGee, but a bit less talented, so he is not a guy you could ever rely in big role, but for those 10 minutes, he had his moments swating shots and running and dunking.

At some point you have to realise this isn't about Giannis making Spanoulis irrelevant. This dude hates all of the Antetokounmpo family for reasons. Anyone with two eyeballs can see that Greece has absolute trash bigs (guards too obviously) and that Kostas had a huge impact a bunch times off the bench. I was in Athens watching the tournament with a heap of locals and Kostas was almost as popular as Giannis with his 5 minute Bill Russell spurts!

The Lithuania game I thought would be a loss but Kostas just popped after larentzakis shat his pants all over the place.

[UcanUwill]

At some point you have to realise this isn't about Giannis making Spanoulis irrelevant. This dude hates all of the Antetokounmpo family for reasons. Anyone with two eyeballs can see that Greece has absolute trash bigs (guards too obviously) and that Kostas had a huge impact a bunch times off the bench. I was in Athens watching the tournament with a heap of locals and Kostas was almost as popular as Giannis with his 5 minute Bill Russell spurts!

The Lithuania game I thought would be a loss but Kostas just popped after larentzakis shat his pants all over the place.

I am well aware who I am debating, I have him on ignore and mostly just ignore him all together, but he keeps constantly lying to people who would know less about international basketball and would take his words as truth. So sometimes I try to highlight that the dude is just saying things that are not truth.

Both brothers had a role in Spanoulis game plan, Kostas especially, and as we both said, he was actually pretty good. Thanasis was less exiting, but he is still tolerable defensive player, he was not the worst Greek on a that team. I am not a fan of his self admiration how dude averages 2 points per game in a tournament, but says Bucks were exited to see him play defense and thats why they signed him, like come on dude, who are you fooling here, but whatever.

[lambchop]

Hope all the people complaining about bronny put equal energy into this

Both cases are equally pathetic.

In reality, neither Broonie, nor Kostas nor Alex belong even in G league, let alone nba. Nepotism isn't helping Lakers / Bucks, it just puts stain on Giannis & Lebron's legacy as entitled spoiled brats who use power to manipulate teams , hindering chances of own team for winning ,because those guys are nothing but wasted roster spots.

In reality? What a stupid take. If someone like Bronny who averaged 22/5/5/2 in 59 TS% and shot 38% 3PT in 8.4 attempts per game don't deserve to play in G league then who tf is worthy enough to play there who's actually built to develop young players like him. Some people here just really have dumb opinion and for them that"s their reality.

This. Also, people don't realise how bad the G-League is. Someone like Bronny SHOULD be able to average 20 there on good efficiency.

And, no, it doesn't put a stain on their legacy. It simply shows the reality of nepotism, wielding power and business decisions.

Depending on how society progresses with gender fluidity I could even see moms and wives playing at some point.

[pepe1991]

Both cases are equally pathetic.

In reality, neither Broonie, nor Kostas nor Alex belong even in G league, let alone nba. Nepotism isn't helping Lakers / Bucks, it just puts stain on Giannis & Lebron's legacy as entitled spoiled brats who use power to manipulate teams , hindering chances of own team for winning ,because those guys are nothing but wasted roster spots.

In reality? What a stupid take. If someone like Bronny who averaged 22/5/5/2 in 59 TS% and shot 38% 3PT in 8.4 attempts per game don't deserve to play in G league then who tf is worthy enough to play there who's actually built to develop young players like him. Some people here just really have dumb opinion and for them that"s their reality.

This. Also, people don't realise how bad the G-League is. Someone like Bronny SHOULD be able to average 20 there on good efficiency.

And, no, it doesn't put a stain on their legacy. It simply shows the reality of nepotism, wielding power and business decisions.

Depending on how society progresses with gender fluidity I could even see moms and wives playing at some point.

Thing is, those "numbers" aren't really accurate, or at least don't cover all games.

Bronnie didn't play 11 but 18 games in G league, first 7 were part of Preparation Tournament/cup.


For 18 games total, his numbers are around 18 ppg, 4,5 apg, 3,3 TO, 53,9% TS on team that went 9-9 during that period and -14 real plus minus.

His usage (27%) is sky high because who his daddy is.
His raw numbers are nothing spectacular (334 points on 294 shots)
His efficiency overall has been below league's average.
His assist to TO rate is pretty bad for lead guard.


Does he belong in G league now? Maybe. That wasn't my point. Would he be in G league without Daddy-Bron ? No. And that was my point.

He was college bench player. Those type of players don't make it even to G league.
He is given every opportunity possible to showcase himself, like Giannis bros, because of nepotism and power plays by his father.

Much like Giannis bros are given opportunity after opportunity to play in Europe regardless how bad they are.