Official NBA General Discussion 2025-26 V1.0

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[LoveMyRaps]

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[PhilBlackson]

Ngl Ace Bailey is looking pretty damn good so far…

And if only we had the opportunity to draft Ware, would’ve been the perfect fit.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Jase Richardson continuing to pass the eye test. Perfect combo guard to play next to a higher usage wing

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They might as well blow this team up. I’d be eyeing JJ as an upgrade piece if they want to suck this year around deadline time

[Syd-TK3]

Ngl Ace Bailey is looking pretty damn good so far…

And if only we had the opportunity to draft Ware, would’ve been the perfect fit.

Its only been 2 preseason games but I cant wait to take this Ace Bailey victory lap and show how wrong these people hating him were

[arbsn]

Jase Richardson another guy who has looked really good... hasnt missed a 3 in pre season yet and looks confident

[PhilBlackson]

Ngl Ace Bailey is looking pretty damn good so far…

And if only we had the opportunity to draft Ware, would’ve been the perfect fit.

Its only been 2 preseason games but I cant wait to take this Ace Bailey victory lap and show how wrong these people hating him were

Idk if I'm ready to announce my victory lap on deck lol but I totally hear you because even though I had (still not 100% sure) serious concerns about his shot selection & the people advising him (who is now obv gone)...I still said around the draft that after Coop at #1, I'm not sure if I could pass on Ace, I know vast majority of people were saying & might still say Harper was the obvious #2 but I wasn't and still not so sure about that...

Personally I'm NOT ready to make a definitive statement EITHER WAY about who will be better BUT...I will say the ONLY player who I think MAY have a chance to be anywhere near as good as Flagg is/willbe, is Bailey imo. Obv odds favour the favorite lol and Cooper should end up better because I think he is ahead of Bailey in a number of facets of the game buuut Ace has so much physical & skill potential. It's early....but Hardy might be able to develop him into something special, the way he's using his quickness to get to his spots and get better looks early on, is making the game look easy for him. Just imagine once they clean up his handles and work on his court vision but I at least seem him make some passes to Clayton that weren't too bad.

The interesting sidebar for me going forward will be him vs Harper especially as it pertains to the Spurs, I'm not saying it would be a "fumble" because I think Harper will be a really good player BUT how effective is he gonna be off ball with Fox & Castle?! I just think Ace & Bryant could've been a near perfect fit for a future starting lineup & imagine the Spurs developed him into a star with Wemby - plus Fox & Castle, if he hits his potential that coulda been crazy imo. But I'm just wondering how Harper is going to help compensate for what could've been a 6'9 wing to help defend on one end of the court and a kid like Ace who's game prob would've blended very naturally with Fox & Castle...what does Dylan look like with those guys and will he be maximized as much as Bailey prob could've?! And also due to that, he will these guys look early on in comparison too each other?! Anyways that's my Ace rant lol

[ATLTimekeeper]

I watched Ace/Flagg for the first time last night. Ace's size does not pop at all in the NBA, but he is physically mature for his age and will have a nice rookie season with all those shot attempts.

Flagg had Nurkic backing him down and not only stopped him but came up with a steal. But he is physically immature and loses his balance too easily right now.

If I was picking ROY I'd say Ace has an advantage because he'll be putting up raw ppg on a hapless team. I think Flagg and Harper will be deferring too much on good teams.

[DreamTeam09]

I watched Ace/Flagg for the first time last night. Ace's size does not pop at all in the NBA, but he is physically mature for his age and will have a nice rookie season with all those shot attempts.

Flagg had Nurkic backing him down and not only stopped him but came up with a steal. But he is physically immature and loses his balance too easily right now.

If I was picking ROY I'd say Ace has an advantage because he'll be putting up raw ppg on a hapless team. I think Flagg and Harper will be deferring too much on good teams.

The ball is going to be in Cooper's hands a lot, when he's getting plays ran for, he'll be facilitating l, he's actually done better than I thought he would have. As far as Ace goes, he's actually more active with a motor than I thought he had coming out of college, his height actually helps him on the glass. High on both cats

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They might as well blow this team up. I’d be eyeing JJ as an upgrade piece if they want to suck this year around deadline time

Would you do JJ for Barnes?

[LoveMyRaps]

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They might as well blow this team up. I’d be eyeing JJ as an upgrade piece if they want to suck this year around deadline time

Would you do JJ for Barnes?

Yes. 100%

JJJ is a much better fit for this ball club.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

They might as well blow this team up. I’d be eyeing JJ as an upgrade piece if they want to suck this year around deadline time

Would you do JJ for Barnes?

Yes. 100%

JJJ is a much better fit for this ball club.

We'd have to punt on Poeltl who we gave a hefty extension too. I don't think JJJ and Poeltl is a good fit even if JJJ can shoot. I think ideally he's our stretch 5 and we give CMB the starting 4 position.

Interesting thought exercise but idk if JJJ is good enough to say yes to this automatically

[Shakril]

Would you do JJ for Barnes?

Yes. 100%

JJJ is a much better fit for this ball club.

We'd have to punt on Poeltl who we gave a hefty extension too. I don't think JJJ and Poeltl is a good fit even if JJJ can shoot. I think ideally he's our stretch 5 and we give CMB the starting 4 position.

Interesting thought exercise but idk if JJJ is good enough to say yes to this automatically

If JJJ is available, many teams will go after him and i doubt the raptors have the package to get him. So in theory you are right, but reasonably there is little chance we get him. We only got Kwahi because of the unique circumstances. (for those that will bring it up as a counter argument)

I honestly would stop looking outside for new players, and rather look at what we have. 30 games in, we can debate what needs we have, if any, and who to bring in.

[Rodrickle]

Yes. 100%

JJJ is a much better fit for this ball club.

We'd have to punt on Poeltl who we gave a hefty extension too. I don't think JJJ and Poeltl is a good fit even if JJJ can shoot. I think ideally he's our stretch 5 and we give CMB the starting 4 position.

Interesting thought exercise but idk if JJJ is good enough to say yes to this automatically

If JJJ is available, many teams will go after him and i doubt the raptors have the package to get him. So in theory you are right, but reasonably there is little chance we get him. We only got Kwahi because of the unique circumstances. (for those that will bring it up as a counter argument)

I honestly would stop looking outside for new players, and rather look at what we have. 30 games in, we can debate what needs we have, if any, and who to bring in.

Why wouldn't the Raptors have the package available to get JJJ? We have some good assets, all our firsts, and matching salary. JJJ is not a superstar. He's a very good player with a lot of injury history. We could easily have an enticing package.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Yes. 100%

JJJ is a much better fit for this ball club.

We'd have to punt on Poeltl who we gave a hefty extension too. I don't think JJJ and Poeltl is a good fit even if JJJ can shoot. I think ideally he's our stretch 5 and we give CMB the starting 4 position.

Interesting thought exercise but idk if JJJ is good enough to say yes to this automatically

If JJJ is available, many teams will go after him and i doubt the raptors have the package to get him. So in theory you are right, but reasonably there is little chance we get him. We only got Kwahi because of the unique circumstances. (for those that will bring it up as a counter argument)

I honestly would stop looking outside for new players, and rather look at what we have. 30 games in, we can debate what needs we have, if any, and who to bring in.

JJJ isn't a franchise carrier. I don't think he'd have as robust of a market as you think. He makes a large amount so for a competitive offer, teams would have to be trading a positive asset making 30+ million with an additional player asset to bridge the money gap with or without picks depending on who the deal is centred around

The Spurs only have Fox as a second big contract and Memphis has Ja. Houston probably not moving Sengun for him. Hawks probably don't have enough if JJ isn't coming back in the trade (and I doubt they do that), Memphis won't take AD back from Dallas, Brown for JJJ is interesting but I don't see Boston punting on Jaylen, Cavs no, Pistons don't have what the Grizzlies would want, Lakers no, Heat no, Pelicans no, Clippers no, and the Knicks perhaps but I don't think they would be able to make a multiplayer trade as an over the second apron team

If the Grizzlies mess around and start way below .500 and Ja and JJJ are barely playing, I see a world where they punt on JJJ (who has the most value but is paid a LOT) and blowing the team up to tank for one of the stars in the upcoming draft.

[causal_fan]

If Cooper Flagg starts at PG, that would be a really big Dallas lineup - Thompson at 6'6" would be shortest starter.

[Son Goku 25]

Ngl Ace Bailey is looking pretty damn good so far…

And if only we had the opportunity to draft Ware, would’ve been the perfect fit.

Its only been 2 preseason games but I cant wait to take this Ace Bailey victory lap and show how wrong these people hating him were

Definitely looks skilled but I'm surprised at how small he looks out there, more like a SG size. But I guess he can play that position comfortably.

[Wise80]

They might as well blow this team up. I’d be eyeing JJ as an upgrade piece if they want to suck this year around deadline time

Would you do JJ for Barnes?

Yes. 100%

JJJ is a much better fit for this ball club.

He's a much better fit on basically every team in the league.

Id take him over Scottie in a heartbeat.

[causal_fan]

I notice Precious Achiuwa is on the market again - Was basketball IQ the main criticism against him in Toronto?