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Raps vs Celtics: Preseason - Wed, Oct 15th, 2025 - 730PM EST

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Re: Raps vs Celtics: Preseason - Wed, Oct 15th, 2025 - 730PM EST 

Post#421 » by Pointgod » Thu Oct 16, 2025 2:31 am

dballislife wrote:i really really hate the fact that quickley was a good bench player, and then he played a very good 30 games for us on a terrible tanking team and we gave him a 33 million dollar bag lol


To add insult to injury, other players are using his contract as an example of why they should get the bag. I had high hopes for him and still have it but the roster construction is not doing him any favors
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Post#422 » by bballsparkin » Thu Oct 16, 2025 2:34 am

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I think most people on here opposed it too, but Boston supposedly laughed at our offer too.


Laughed? They could have traded for the 9th and traded it to the Pelicans for a likely lotto pick next year and a player in Newell who likely would have fit in there like a glove. Who's laughing now Celtics?!?

Hehe, and they don't need RJ next year on the books. Dollar dollar yo. C.R.E.A.M!


Probably the Celtics, I'm sure they're extremely happy to have White.


RJ + 9 is a respectable offer for future MVP Mr White. This purported offer is worthy of a chuckle at most. I would not be happy if the Raptors took that deal. Sure it's fair value but it's a questionable direction. Remember, Scottie can't shoot?

Boston has Tatum, Brown, refs, great drafting. They don't need RJ and 9 like we do. RJ's second year is a problem for them. Granted. Who wants to watch RJ and Brown play together? haha. And Brown is much better defensively so no RJ. That's the joke right? .
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Re: Raps vs Celtics: Preseason - Wed, Oct 15th, 2025 - 730PM EST 

Post#423 » by PushDaRock » Thu Oct 16, 2025 2:36 am

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dballislife wrote:i really really hate the fact that quickley was a good bench player, and then he played a very good 30 games for us on a terrible tanking team and we gave him a 33 million dollar bag lol


To add insult to injury, other players are using his contract as an example of why they should get the bag. I had high hopes for him and still have it but the roster construction is not doing him any favors


Suggs got 5 years 150m in the same offseason. The market is what it is, sometimes these things just come down to some luck in how the timing works out.
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Re: Raps vs Celtics: Preseason - Wed, Oct 15th, 2025 - 730PM EST 

Post#424 » by dandaman » Thu Oct 16, 2025 2:37 am

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dballislife wrote:i really really hate the fact that quickley was a good bench player, and then he played a very good 30 games for us on a terrible tanking team and we gave him a 33 million dollar bag lol
The masai special. Gave Barnes the max after he regressed. Gave ingram 40mil without even seeing him play

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Scottie was warranted, every team would have given him rookie max after ROY + all-star appearance, nobody knew he would basically regress, even Scal on Celts broadcast was saying he was surprised he hasnt shown much improvement
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Re: Raps vs Celtics: Preseason - Wed, Oct 15th, 2025 - 730PM EST 

Post#425 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Thu Oct 16, 2025 2:37 am

PushDaRock wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
dballislife wrote:i really really hate the fact that quickley was a good bench player, and then he played a very good 30 games for us on a terrible tanking team and we gave him a 33 million dollar bag lol


To add insult to injury, other players are using his contract as an example of why they should get the bag. I had high hopes for him and still have it but the roster construction is not doing him any favors


Suggs got 5 years 150m in the same offseason. The market is what it is, sometimes these things just come down to some luck in how the timing works out.

Or, we have a soft GM that spits out like a pinata.
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Post#426 » by Zeno » Thu Oct 16, 2025 2:38 am

I am way more concerned about Scottie’s play than IQ missing shots. But I refuse to overreact…until game 1.
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Post#427 » by PushDaRock » Thu Oct 16, 2025 2:40 am

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PushDaRock wrote:
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Laughed? They could have traded for the 9th and traded it to the Pelicans for a likely lotto pick next year and a player in Newell who likely would have fit in there like a glove. Who's laughing now Celtics?!?

Hehe, and they don't need RJ next year on the books. Dollar dollar yo. C.R.E.A.M!


Probably the Celtics, I'm sure they're extremely happy to have White.


RJ + 9 is a respectable offer for future MVP Mr White. This purported offer is worthy of a chuckle at most. I would not be happy if the Raptors took that deal. Sure it's fair value but it's a questionable direction. Remember, Scottie can't shoot?

Boston has Tatum, Brown, refs, great drafting. They don't need RJ and 9 like we do. RJ's second year is a problem for them. Granted. Who wants to watch RJ and Brown play together? haha. And Brown is much better defensively so no RJ. That's the joke right? .


What would be the questionable direction? They're trying to compete this season. Your roster isn't locked into all these long term deals and this expensive if you're not trying to. White helps them win. And yes, Scottie can't shoot which is why adding a high volume 3 point shooter helps.
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Post#428 » by VanWest82 » Thu Oct 16, 2025 2:41 am

Scottie will be fine. He was banged up last year (ankle) and will look better next to better talent that isn't injured all the time.

IQ's shooting is the last thing I'm worried about.

JKW's shooting is concerning. He might not be an NBA player.
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Post#429 » by YogurtProducer » Thu Oct 16, 2025 2:42 am

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Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:I'm talking about the development. I'd argue he's not doing that either. It's been three years with questionable returns.

It has been 2 years and 4 preseason games my guy.

And for what it is worth, only three guys, Scottie + Poeltl + Dick, are still on the team from when he came over.

Sure, but he's not doing anything of what we need. He's just glazing them.

How is he doing nothing of what we need? He was brought into develop.

Walter, Shead, Dick, etc. are all guys who showed some development since their arrival. Hate it or not, Barnes had a much better 3rd year than he did under Nurse as well. Guys like RJ also have had their best stretches of their career.

It is FAR to early to suggest he hasn’t been good at developing. Development doesn’t happen in 2 months. Most of these guys are only going into their 2nd or so full year with Darko.
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Post#430 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Thu Oct 16, 2025 2:47 am

YogurtProducer wrote:
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YogurtProducer wrote:It has been 2 years and 4 preseason games my guy.

And for what it is worth, only three guys, Scottie + Poeltl + Dick, are still on the team from when he came over.

Sure, but he's not doing anything of what we need. He's just glazing them.

How is he doing nothing of what we need? He was brought into develop.

Walter, Shead, Dick, etc. are all guys who showed some development since their arrival. Hate it or not, Barnes had a much better 3rd year than he did under Nurse as well. Guys like RJ also have had their best stretches of their career.

It is FAR to early to suggest he hasn’t been good at developing. Development doesn’t happen in 2 months. Most of these guys are only going into their 2nd or so full year with Darko.

Barnes? Haven't we seen enough of him shooting by this point. Walter and Dick, those numbers wont be going up either.

All you can point to and say "Him"...that's Agbaji. Who cares.
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Post#431 » by LoveMyRaps » Thu Oct 16, 2025 2:48 am

RJ is 7/7 from the free throw line in his last two games.

(Preseason: 13/17 = 76%)

great to see!
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Post#432 » by ciueli » Thu Oct 16, 2025 2:51 am

PushDaRock wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
dballislife wrote:i really really hate the fact that quickley was a good bench player, and then he played a very good 30 games for us on a terrible tanking team and we gave him a 33 million dollar bag lol


To add insult to injury, other players are using his contract as an example of why they should get the bag. I had high hopes for him and still have it but the roster construction is not doing him any favors


Suggs got 5 years 150m in the same offseason. The market is what it is, sometimes these things just come down to some luck in how the timing works out.


Only $123.8M of that is guaranteed though as the final season is a team option. And his contract declines over time giving the Magic financial flexibility exactly when they need it in order to keep their best talent. It's a much better contract than what we gave IQ in multiple ways.
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Post#433 » by KP730 » Thu Oct 16, 2025 2:52 am

the starting 5’s defence was terrible

shows why Raps were trying to trade RJ for White…just what that starting 5 needs
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Post#434 » by HumbleRen » Thu Oct 16, 2025 2:56 am

Such a flawed starting 5 lol.

IQ is not a playoff PG, has great shooting ability but is unable to create separation to utilize it.

RJ is a great driver but is horrid on defence, bad touch around the rim and can’t shoot FT’s.

Ingram is very solid, my issues with him is just health related.

Scottie is a great defender but he’s a clear negative on offence. Can’t drive, screen or provide spacing.

Poeltl is cool but he’s 30, that defence is going to fall off the cliff pretty soon.

Bobby and/or Darko will be fired in the next 2 years if this starting 5 doesn’t change within that time.
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Post#435 » by PushDaRock » Thu Oct 16, 2025 2:57 am

ciueli wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
To add insult to injury, other players are using his contract as an example of why they should get the bag. I had high hopes for him and still have it but the roster construction is not doing him any favors


Suggs got 5 years 150m in the same offseason. The market is what it is, sometimes these things just come down to some luck in how the timing works out.


Only $123.8M of that is guaranteed though as the final season is a team option. And his contract declines over time giving the Magic financial flexibility exactly when they need it in order to keep their best talent. It's a much better contract than what we gave IQ in multiple ways.


Sure, but IQ also put up much better numbers along with the better track record. Suggs was terrible offensively his first 2 seasons.
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Post#436 » by Harcore Fenton Mun » Thu Oct 16, 2025 2:58 am

HumbleRen wrote:Such a flawed starting 5 lol.

IQ is not a playoff PG, has great shooting ability but is unable to create separation to utilize it.

RJ is a great driver but is horrid on defence, bad touch around the rim and can’t shoot FT’s.

Ingram is very solid, my issues with him is just health related.

Scottie is a great defender but he’s a clear negative on offence. Can’t drive, screen or provide spacing.

Poeltl is cool but he’s 30, that defence is going to fall off the cliff pretty soon.

Bobby and/or Darko will be fired in the next 2 years if this starting 5 doesn’t change within that time.

I like them all, just not together.
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Post#437 » by HumbleRen » Thu Oct 16, 2025 2:59 am

Harcore Fenton Mun wrote:
HumbleRen wrote:Such a flawed starting 5 lol.

IQ is not a playoff PG, has great shooting ability but is unable to create separation to utilize it.

RJ is a great driver but is horrid on defence, bad touch around the rim and can’t shoot FT’s.

Ingram is very solid, my issues with him is just health related.

Scottie is a great defender but he’s a clear negative on offence. Can’t drive, screen or provide spacing.

Poeltl is cool but he’s 30, that defence is going to fall off the cliff pretty soon.

Bobby and/or Darko will be fired in the next 2 years if this starting 5 doesn’t change within that time.

I like them all, just not together.


RJ, IQ, Scottie and Poeltl don’t compliment each other at all on either ends of the court.

It’s pretty grim lol.
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Post#438 » by AHCanada » Thu Oct 16, 2025 3:00 am

HumbleRen wrote:Such a flawed starting 5 lol.

IQ is not a playoff PG, has great shooting ability but is unable to create separation to utilize it.

RJ is a great driver but is horrid on defence, bad touch around the rim and can’t shoot FT’s.

Ingram is very solid, my issues with him is just health related.

Scottie is a great defender but he’s a clear negative on offence. Can’t drive, screen or provide spacing.

Poeltl is cool but he’s 30, that defence is going to fall off the cliff pretty soon.

Bobby and/or Darko will be fired in the next 2 years if this starting 5 doesn’t change within that time.


yup. this is it. Of course there's always a chance the team really starts to gel and surprises.
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Post#439 » by treerollins » Thu Oct 16, 2025 3:03 am

so to update barnes is shooting 21% (9/43) from the field and 0% from 3 on 9 attempts in the preseason
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Post#440 » by LoveMyRaps » Thu Oct 16, 2025 3:06 am

Is Jack drunk again?
Scottie got smacked pretty hard here...

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