Bronny is a waste of a roster spot

[Nate the Great]

I don't see much similar outrage over Giannis's brother getting a spot on the Bucks roster. And now a third brother getting a two-way spot there. All done to keep the superstar happy (and maybe keep him period.) Teams do whatever's in the best interest for the team. This is not news.

Well, at least Thenasis is a competent defender.

https://youtu.be/B3IhXuF4XeE?si=Y5yYODwO7QU5c34-

[Johnny Bball]

I don't see much similar outrage over Giannis's brother getting a spot on the Bucks roster. And now a third brother getting a two-way spot there. All done to keep the superstar happy (and maybe keep him period.) Teams do whatever's in the best interest for the team. This is not news.

How does that make Bronny a better player?

[dballislife]

he was a scrub in college when he was drafted, now hes a scrub in the nba...we all knew he was gonna be a scrub, now he is a scrub...bronny the scrub

[lakerz12]

i dont see the purpose of waiving him. who do you think they are going to fill the roster spot with that provides more value than adding to lebrons legacy. I can look at 20 other rosters and nitpick what reasons people have for players being on the floor other than their on-court production. This really doesnt matter.

if he ends up being a rotation player, its a miracle. if not, is this really altering the lakers as an organization?

You’re actually defending using a roster spot for “LeBron’s legacy” when there are hundreds of guys (superior to bronny at basketball) who spent their whole life working for that roster spot?

[Vann]

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[nomansland]

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Man that guy is insufferable. The only reason people watch him is because he yells louder than anyone and it's funny for about 30 seconds but then it gets super annoying. And he doesn't even know what he's talking about half the time. I feel sorry for his wife, if he has one.

[druggas]

LeBorn strong armed the Lakers into signing his kid. Just another reason LeBorn needs to go.

[og15]

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Man that guy is insufferable. The only reason people watch him is because he yells louder than anyone and it's funny for about 30 seconds but then it gets super annoying. And he doesn't even know what he's talking about half the time. I feel sorry for his wife, if he has one.

Have to agree that many times the reads he's saying players should make are not there in real time, and some of his defensive criticisms of individuals are scheme based.

Doesn't mean he gets everything wrong, he get stuff right too, but many times, I'm just like, meh

[SkyBill40]

i dont see the purpose of waiving him. who do you think they are going to fill the roster spot with that provides more value than adding to lebrons legacy. I can look at 20 other rosters and nitpick what reasons people have for players being on the floor other than their on-court production. This really doesnt matter.

if he ends up being a rotation player, its a miracle. if not, is this really altering the lakers as an organization?

You’re actually defending using a roster spot for “LeBron’s legacy” when there are hundreds of guys (superior to bronny at basketball) who spent their whole life working for that roster spot?

No one cares about LeBron's legacy other than LeBron. Bronny might be a good kid and a decent hooper, but he's taking a spot from a better player solely from nepotism. And that's a problem.

To a similar degree, we need look no further than the trio of Antetokounpos in MIL.

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[Wigginstime]

Thread is useless without a suggestion of who to replace him with

Here is 104 players who were statistically better than Bronny last year in the G-League:

Player Tm Age G MP PER TS% 3PAr FTr ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% OWS DWS WS WS/48
Oscar Tshiebwe SLC 25 26 842 28.5 0.679 0.007 0.313 26.1 35.2 30.6 14.1 3.1 2.9 17.6 20 2.2 1.5 3.8 0.215
Tony Bradley CPS 27 12 324 28 0.755 0.048 0.16 15.1 31.4 23 8.2 1.2 4.5 13 20.7 0.9 0.6 1.4 0.214
Tolu Smith III MCC 28 853 25.7 0.687 0 0.26 18.6 29.4 24 11 1.4 3.2 15.7 21.8 1.8 1.4 3.2 0.181
Moses Brown WES 25 26 841 24.3 0.648 0 0.284 20.6 32.1 26.3 4.5 1.1 3 12.8 20.9 1.4 1.4 2.8 0.161
Colin Castleton TOT 24 19 576 24.3 0.678 0.026 0.238 16.7 19.5 18.2 15.9 1.9 3.6 15.6 22.6 1.2 0.6 1.8 0.154
Isaac Jones STO 12 381 23.9 0.652 0.215 0.22 11.7 19.8 15.8 8.2 1.3 3.3 10.6 25.3 0.7 0.4 1.1 0.139
Spencer Jones GRG 11 357 23 0.702 0.55 0.061 9.5 17.2 13.3 9.3 2.3 4.4 11.8 18.7 0.9 0.3 1.2 0.166
Malik Williams SXF 26 31 846 22.9 0.574 0.411 0.131 13.7 26.6 20.2 8 2.6 4.8 8 24.7 0.8 1.6 2.3 0.132
Justise Winslow WIS 28 13 278 22.9 0.587 0.312 0.181 7.5 24.1 16 25.4 2.8 2.7 10.8 27.3 0.2 0.5 0.7 0.122
David Muoka WCB 24 34 981 22.8 0.666 0.004 0.102 14.3 22.5 18.4 14 1.2 6.3 12.7 15.2 2.1 1.4 3.5 0.172
Elijah Harkless TOT 24 19 597 22.7 0.655 0.477 0.282 4.3 13.3 8.7 22.6 2 2 9.5 30.7 1.1 0.4 1.5 0.118
Malachi Flynn AUS 26 26 848 22.6 0.668 0.466 0.143 2.9 13.8 8.3 19.3 2.6 1.2 10.4 25.3 1.9 1.7 3.6 0.202
Sterling Manley RIP 23 413 22.6 0.695 0 0.309 14.7 19.2 17 9.4 0.7 2.2 12.4 23.8 0.7 0.3 1.1 0.125
Skal Labissiere STO 28 28 815 22.5 0.667 0.254 0.162 10.6 18.4 14.6 9.9 1 4 7.4 19.9 2.1 0.8 2.9 0.169
Nae'Qwan Tomlin CLC 24 32 1052 22.3 0.643 0.381 0.171 11.7 14.9 13.3 10.7 1.7 4.6 11.2 23.9 1.8 1.1 2.9 0.132
Isaiah Thomas SLC 35 14 431 22.3 0.653 0.464 0.183 1 5.9 3.4 30.8 1.7 1.3 10.3 34.2 0.8 0.1 0.9 0.098
Tyrese Samuel VAL 33 704 22.2 0.697 0.061 0.253 11.2 24.8 17.9 10.2 1.8 4.4 11.2 17.8 1.5 1.2 2.7 0.182
Braxton Key TOT 27 33 1081 22 0.605 0.198 0.207 7.8 23.3 15.4 20.5 4.4 3 14.4 23.5 0.4 2.2 2.6 0.115
Adama Sanogo WCB 22 11 299 21.8 0.586 0.084 0.14 18.3 21 19.6 8.6 1.4 3.4 12.2 25.3 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.09
PJ Hall GRG 13 409 21.6 0.597 0.268 0.121 11.9 31.4 21.5 12.1 1.4 3.2 12.6 25.6 0.3 0.5 0.7 0.086
JD Davison MNE 30 1036 21.5 0.602 0.255 0.209 4.6 11.6 8.2 38.1 2.3 1.3 15.1 31.4 0.9 1.4 2.3 0.106
Jahlil Okafor IND 26 827 21.4 0.736 0.071 0.159 12.1 21.7 17 15 0.4 1.2 17.2 20.7 1.8 0.8 2.6 0.15
Killian Hayes LIN 18 600 21.3 0.584 0.353 0.092 1.6 16.6 8.9 35.6 3.6 1.3 14.3 26.9 0.4 0.9 1.3 0.107
Mac McClung OSC 26 30 982 21.3 0.66 0.376 0.206 3.3 9.2 6.3 29 1.4 1.2 15 30.1 1.6 0.4 2 0.096
Jamaree Bouyea TOT 21 708 21.2 0.651 0.396 0.124 1.9 10.8 6.3 20.6 2.4 2.8 9.5 21.6 1.5 1.3 2.8 0.188
Henry Ellenson WIS 28 34 1173 21.2 0.64 0.253 0.167 10.8 18.6 14.8 14.9 0.9 1.3 9.8 24.6 2.1 1 3.1 0.127
Teddy Allen RGV 28 525 21.2 0.616 0.49 0.102 7.2 13.4 10.2 9.5 3.4 1.3 12.1 29.9 0.3 0.7 1 0.089
David Jones TOT 31 1018 21.2 0.628 0.323 0.185 4.1 19.4 12 17.8 2.2 1.8 12.9 30.9 0 1.7 1.7 0.082
Isaih Moore GBO 20 246 21.1 0.705 0.113 0.274 19.5 21.6 20.6 3.8 1.3 4.8 15.8 15.3 0.5 0.5 0.9 0.184
Jaylen Nowell CCG 25 25 867 21 0.663 0.379 0.156 2 10.3 6.4 26.1 1.8 0.7 11 26.3 1.8 0.9 2.6 0.146
Warith Alatishe TOT 25 28 603 21 0.635 0.034 0.155 13.1 19.2 16.2 10.1 2.9 4.8 11 15.3 0.9 0.9 1.8 0.145
Jarron Cumberland DEL 27 25 801 21 0.663 0.491 0.22 3.1 13.3 7.9 26.3 2.1 2 11.7 23.2 1.6 0.6 2.1 0.128
Kai Jones SDC 24 13 401 20.9 0.836 0.118 0.183 7.3 19.7 13.3 8.3 2 5.1 13.7 12.8 0.9 0.5 1.5 0.176
Enrique Freeman IND 14 480 20.8 0.621 0.255 0.185 12.6 20.5 16.6 12.9 1.2 3.8 9.1 20.4 0.8 0.6 1.5 0.148
Isaiah Miller AUS 26 15 382 20.8 0.541 0.264 0.145 6.4 18.7 12.5 17.8 4.4 1.6 12 26.7 0 1 1.1 0.132
Kevin Knox SCW 25 12 405 20.7 0.677 0.395 0.21 4.5 22.2 13.6 13 1.1 1.5 13.2 26.9 0.4 0.5 0.9 0.102
Kavion Pippen MNE 28 13 94 20.5 0.665 0.12 0.12 18.2 15.6 16.9 4.8 1.1 5.9 13.2 14.2 0.2 0.1 0.4 0.182
Jesse Edwards IWA 18 452 20.4 0.646 0.021 0.276 14.5 21.8 18 7.1 2 7.9 16 18.3 0.3 0.4 0.7 0.076
Mason Jones STO 26 20 720 20.1 0.665 0.556 0.217 1.7 13.1 7.5 30.1 1.6 0.6 16 25.9 1.3 0.5 1.8 0.118
Quenton Jackson IND 13 490 20 0.648 0.204 0.194 5.3 11 8.3 23.3 2.6 0.9 13.6 24.8 0.6 0.6 1.2 0.115
Greg Brown III MXC 23 31 742 20 0.631 0.285 0.251 7.7 19.2 13.6 7 1.1 7.3 14.7 28.4 -0.4 1.3 0.9 0.058
Justyn Hamilton OKL 26 404 19.8 0.622 0.047 0.168 11.2 27.1 19.3 11.2 1.1 4.3 13 19.9 0.4 0.8 1.2 0.137
Kylor Kelley SBL 27 18 438 19.7 0.704 0.022 0.119 7.7 22.9 15.3 9.6 0.6 7.7 13.9 16.7 0.6 0.6 1.2 0.127
Isaiah Mobley DEL 22 622 19.7 0.601 0.366 0.176 7.8 23.2 15.1 19.9 1.4 2.5 11.9 25.9 0.3 0.6 0.9 0.069
Jahmir Young TOT 24 30 1036 19.7 0.553 0.229 0.145 5.2 10 7.6 34.4 3 0.8 13.3 28.3 0.5 0.8 1.3 0.06
Jamarion Sharp TEX 29 627 19.5 0.682 0 0.254 11.4 23.9 17.7 7.3 1.2 13.4 20.5 12.1 0.5 1.2 1.6 0.124
Zyon Pullin TOT 17 598 19.5 0.645 0.267 0.227 2.3 14.4 8.3 26.5 1.8 1 11.3 22.4 1 0.4 1.4 0.112
Trey Alexander GRG 22 809 19.5 0.617 0.356 0.201 1.8 15.2 8.4 24.1 2 1 13.4 29.1 0.6 0.5 1.1 0.063
Jahmi'us Ramsey OKL 23 25 710 19.4 0.629 0.41 0.181 2.1 14.8 8.6 18.3 2.4 0.6 13 28.4 0.1 1.1 1.2 0.083
T.J. Warren WES 31 21 759 19.3 0.618 0.516 0.143 4.8 12.5 8.6 17.9 2.3 1.9 10.8 23.9 1.1 0.9 2 0.125
Ishmael Lane IND 23 390 19.3 0.619 0.123 0.333 17.2 21 19.2 13.7 0.8 3.1 12.2 20.7 0.5 0.5 1 0.124
Michael Foster Jr. CCG 27 603 19.1 0.669 0.169 0.219 12.2 16.4 14.4 14.9 2.2 6 18.1 17.7 0.7 1.1 1.7 0.137
Max Fiedler TOT 30 666 19.1 0.645 0.095 0.197 13.6 25.5 19.5 20.7 2.2 4 24.6 14.2 0.7 1 1.7 0.12
Myron Gardner OSC 34 795 19.1 0.659 0.441 0.125 9.5 20.8 15.3 9.7 2.4 2.8 15.9 20.1 0.9 1 1.9 0.116
TyTy Washington Jr. VAL 23 21 699 19.1 0.599 0.379 0.118 1.9 13.2 7.5 33.3 1.1 0.9 12.1 27.8 0.6 0.6 1.2 0.085
Bryce McGowens RIP 22 16 547 19.1 0.662 0.297 0.353 1.9 10 6 16.5 2.1 2 13.3 31.2 0 0.4 0.4 0.039
Ike Anigbogu TOT 26 27 381 18.8 0.578 0.074 0.189 20.5 25.6 23 4.5 0.5 11 16.9 14.5 0.3 0.7 0.9 0.119
Reggie Perry GBO 24 26 715 18.8 0.582 0.279 0.145 6.6 25.3 16.3 14.4 1.3 2.5 12.6 29 -0.2 1.3 1.1 0.073
Charles Bediako GRG 22 34 859 18.7 0.685 0.081 0.356 14.9 25.4 20.1 6.2 1.3 4.4 18.4 16.1 0.9 0.9 1.8 0.101
Alex Reese TOT 25 21 631 18.6 0.588 0.644 0.056 7.2 16.7 11.9 6.6 2.1 4.9 9.3 23.1 0.2 0.8 1 0.074
Hason Ward MNE 34 799 18.5 0.705 0.053 0.176 9.1 21.5 15.3 8.6 1.7 7.6 21.4 14.2 0.7 1.7 2.4 0.143
Drew Peterson MNE 25 15 529 18.5 0.616 0.67 0.103 4.4 15.8 10.2 25.6 2.1 0.3 16.7 24.4 0.6 0.8 1.3 0.119
Jacob Toppin TOT 24 19 723 18.5 0.634 0.337 0.187 6.1 16.2 11.1 15 1 1.6 11.2 22.5 0.9 0.7 1.6 0.106
David Roddy TOT 23 12 344 18.4 0.628 0.591 0.078 2.8 17.9 10.2 13.7 1.9 1.4 10.7 22 0.4 0.4 0.8 0.111
Feron Hunt CLC 25 32 1121 18.3 0.607 0.193 0.166 9.7 18.9 14.4 11.6 1.7 3.7 13.3 21.9 0.6 1.3 1.9 0.083
Kevon Harris CPS 27 30 953 18.3 0.601 0.388 0.23 5.2 18.3 11.6 19.4 2.6 1.3 12.9 25.9 0.2 1.4 1.5 0.076
Baylor Scheierman MNE 24 14 497 18.1 0.619 0.656 0.167 3.2 15.2 9.2 22.1 2.5 0.4 13.8 23.8 0.6 0.7 1.3 0.126
Jameer Nelson Jr. AUS 30 572 18.1 0.589 0.253 0.234 6.3 8.4 7.3 17.7 3.5 1.1 14.3 25.6 0.1 1.2 1.3 0.11
Markquis Nowell RGV 25 33 994 18.1 0.584 0.601 0.139 1.7 9.7 5.7 38.2 3.1 0.8 18.5 25.4 0.9 1.1 2 0.097
David Stockton VAL 33 24 613 18 0.661 0.556 0.18 2.7 8.5 5.5 32.2 2.2 0.3 16 21.8 1 0.6 1.6 0.126
Patrick Baldwin Jr. TOT 22 23 737 18 0.606 0.514 0.102 5 18.4 11.5 11.9 1.7 4.2 11.6 22.3 0.4 0.9 1.3 0.088
Cole Swider TOT 18 641 17.8 0.688 0.68 0.1 3.7 14.4 9 7.6 1.3 0.6 5.9 19.8 1.2 0.5 1.7 0.129
Tosan Evbuomwan TOT 23 15 506 17.8 0.642 0.313 0.255 4.6 20.2 12.2 14.7 1.5 1.6 10.8 22.3 0.4 0.6 1 0.093
Mamadi Diakite VAL 28 27 725 17.7 0.684 0.364 0.232 6.2 27 16.4 11.7 1.2 4.4 17.1 18.3 0.5 1.2 1.7 0.11
Chris Livingston WIS 11 314 17.7 0.64 0.333 0.275 6.7 22.6 14.9 11.3 2 1.5 15.8 26.6 -0.2 0.4 0.3 0.039
Keaton Wallace CPS 13 409 17.6 0.578 0.568 0.063 2.4 14.2 8.1 26.2 2.6 1 12.6 22 0.3 0.5 0.8 0.097
KJ Simpson GBO 15 528 17.6 0.616 0.397 0.201 4.1 13.1 8.8 19.3 2 1 14.2 25.6 0.2 0.8 1 0.089
Terry Taylor STO 25 31 1078 17.6 0.576 0.353 0.095 7.5 18.7 13.2 14.4 1 3 10.4 22.2 0.9 1 1.9 0.085
Josh Oduro BIR 28 839 17.5 0.616 0.043 0.202 12.7 19.3 16 18.3 1.7 3 17.6 18.5 0.7 0.9 1.6 0.09
Luke Travers CLC 16 544 17.5 0.553 0.222 0.217 7.8 22.1 15.1 32.7 2.1 3.3 22.3 23.2 -0.2 0.8 0.5 0.045
Nate Hinton TOT 25 37 1089 17.3 0.6 0.448 0.126 8.7 22.7 15.6 15.8 3 0.6 14 16.6 1.2 1.2 2.4 0.108
Jackson Rowe SCW 28 25 825 17.3 0.632 0.384 0.186 6.6 18.3 12.6 11.7 2.1 1.8 12.6 19.5 0.8 1 1.8 0.105
Jay Scrubb MNE 24 31 766 17.3 0.562 0.517 0.168 5.2 12.7 9 13.2 2.8 2.2 12.3 29 -0.3 1.3 0.9 0.057
Malevy Leons OKL 25 34 908 17.2 0.627 0.245 0.249 11.2 16.9 14.1 11.3 2.5 3.3 13.9 15.2 1 1.7 2.7 0.145
Chuma Okeke WES 26 28 1020 17.2 0.582 0.637 0.14 5.8 17 11.3 18.9 1.9 3.2 11.8 19.4 1.1 1.4 2.5 0.117
RJ Nembhard Jr. CCG 25 17 561 17.2 0.702 0.253 0.296 3.5 15.4 9.7 30 1.2 0.6 21.3 21.4 0.6 0.6 1.2 0.107
Micah Potter SLC 26 13 352 17.2 0.584 0.52 0.18 9.9 21.3 15.5 10.7 1.3 3.1 12.4 22.2 0.2 0.3 0.5 0.072
RayJ Dennis TOT 20 780 17.2 0.563 0.403 0.126 2 14.6 8.4 34.3 2.5 1.7 16.4 26.9 -0.1 1 0.9 0.054
Jonathan Mogbo RAP 23 12 365 17 0.686 0.211 0.326 5.6 21.7 13.6 19.6 2 2.8 18.1 15.8 0.4 0.4 0.8 0.107
E.J. Liddell WCB 27 872 17 0.613 0.462 0.195 7.7 14.3 11 11.8 1.4 5.9 13.1 19.9 0.4 1 1.4 0.076
David Johnson MHU 23 22 561 17 0.639 0.588 0.107 4.6 13.3 8.9 16.2 1.2 1.7 14.7 25.2 0.4 0.2 0.6 0.049
Fernandus Brown IWA 33 765 16.9 0.676 0.046 0.144 9.8 22.8 16 6.1 2.3 3.2 12.7 11.8 1.1 0.5 1.6 0.1
Armando Bacot MHU 34 1053 16.9 0.607 0.328 0.18 8.1 24.4 16.1 9.8 1.4 2.6 13.9 23.8 0.1 0.9 1 0.044
Parker Van Dyke AUS 16 100 16.8 0.679 0.744 0 5.1 15.7 10.4 8.9 0 0 11.4 19.2 0.2 0.1 0.4 0.171
Tyson Etienne LIN 32 1145 16.8 0.669 0.538 0.172 1.7 7.6 4.6 14.2 2 0.4 9.1 19.6 2 0.8 2.8 0.119
Erik Stevenson CCG 25 30 675 16.8 0.612 0.552 0.164 3.4 14.5 9.2 25.9 2.2 1.6 18 29.2 -0.2 0.9 0.7 0.049
Jordan Goodwin SBL 26 14 357 16.8 0.509 0.376 0.088 7.3 18.3 12.7 21.3 4 1.6 11.4 28.3 -0.4 0.6 0.2 0.025
Drew Cisse SDC 23 312 16.7 0.662 0 0.125 16.4 26.8 21.4 7 3 4 26.2 9.7 0.3 0.6 0.9 0.136
Jaylan Gainey SLC 23 292 16.7 0.668 0 0.196 9.8 19.1 14.4 9.8 1.2 11.2 21.3 10.2 0.3 0.4 0.7 0.108
Ulrich Chomche RAP 19 459 16.7 0.583 0.033 0.156 15.3 24.2 19.7 7.7 0.8 10.9 22.1 15.9 -0.1 0.7 0.6 0.065
Kevin Cross RGV 26 402 16.7 0.596 0.186 0.122 11.2 24.4 17.7 6.5 1.5 2 13.8 22 0 0.5 0.5 0.064
Robert Baker OSC 17 330 16.6 0.565 0.516 0.102 5.5 20.4 13.2 7.2 2.1 4.8 8.2 19 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.093
Blake Hinson SCW 34 997 16.6 0.613 0.622 0.127 5.1 12.6 8.9 7 1.2 0.8 8.5 25.9 0.6 0.8 1.4 0.068
Bronny James SBL 11 376 16.6 0.591 0.479 0.141 3.2 13.8 8.4 25.7 2.8 0.7 16.1 28.7 -0.2 0.4 0.2 0.025

[Vann]

Man that guy is insufferable. The only reason people watch him is because he yells louder than anyone and it's funny for about 30 seconds but then it gets super annoying. And he doesn't even know what he's talking about half the time. I feel sorry for his wife, if he has one.

Agreed. But it was funny this time.

And Bronny for sure doesn't look even close to an NBA prospect. He's been given a chance but not only he has almost no progress - he's not even bothered to play with energy. Seems that in his head, he's entitled to what has been given to him. Doesn't seem really aware that if it wasn't for his father he wouldn't even sniff playing in NBA.


There are many videos like that one.

Watch on YouTube

[Snakebites]

It's a waste of a roster spot from a purely basketball perspective- he's not good enough to be on an NBA team.

But the Lakers absolutely view keeping Lebron happy as a better use of their 15th roster spot than whatever small contributions a better 15th man would provide.

I get why many wouldn't like that. I particularly get why people who would otherwise be in contention for that 15th spto would be particularly resentful.

But it's the system we've got. Superstars carry this kind of power. Its what keeps 2 of Giannis's brothers employed by the NBA too.

[Vann]

That's OK, nobody expects anything from the 15th spot. It's just that the press and media are insufferable praising him. And he's taking up the minutes of guys who could actually use them.

[JellosJigglin]

That's OK, nobody expects anything from the 15th spot. It's just that the press and media are insufferable praising him. And he's taking up the minutes of guys who could actually use them.

Its not just about filling that spot with a better player.

Sometimes it's better to keep that spot open for trade flexibility. You might need to take back more players then you send out to make salaries match.

Keeping a low floor, low ceiling player doesn't have any purpose at all. Doesn't serve the team in any way whatsoever.

[Edrees]

Thread is useless without a suggestion of who to replace him with

Here is 104 players who were statistically better than Bronny last year in the G-League:

Player Tm Age G MP PER TS% 3PAr FTr ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% OWS DWS WS WS/48
Oscar Tshiebwe SLC 25 26 842 28.5 0.679 0.007 0.313 26.1 35.2 30.6 14.1 3.1 2.9 17.6 20 2.2 1.5 3.8 0.215
Tony Bradley CPS 27 12 324 28 0.755 0.048 0.16 15.1 31.4 23 8.2 1.2 4.5 13 20.7 0.9 0.6 1.4 0.214
Tolu Smith III MCC 28 853 25.7 0.687 0 0.26 18.6 29.4 24 11 1.4 3.2 15.7 21.8 1.8 1.4 3.2 0.181
Moses Brown WES 25 26 841 24.3 0.648 0 0.284 20.6 32.1 26.3 4.5 1.1 3 12.8 20.9 1.4 1.4 2.8 0.161
Colin Castleton TOT 24 19 576 24.3 0.678 0.026 0.238 16.7 19.5 18.2 15.9 1.9 3.6 15.6 22.6 1.2 0.6 1.8 0.154
Isaac Jones STO 12 381 23.9 0.652 0.215 0.22 11.7 19.8 15.8 8.2 1.3 3.3 10.6 25.3 0.7 0.4 1.1 0.139
Spencer Jones GRG 11 357 23 0.702 0.55 0.061 9.5 17.2 13.3 9.3 2.3 4.4 11.8 18.7 0.9 0.3 1.2 0.166
Malik Williams SXF 26 31 846 22.9 0.574 0.411 0.131 13.7 26.6 20.2 8 2.6 4.8 8 24.7 0.8 1.6 2.3 0.132
Justise Winslow WIS 28 13 278 22.9 0.587 0.312 0.181 7.5 24.1 16 25.4 2.8 2.7 10.8 27.3 0.2 0.5 0.7 0.122
David Muoka WCB 24 34 981 22.8 0.666 0.004 0.102 14.3 22.5 18.4 14 1.2 6.3 12.7 15.2 2.1 1.4 3.5 0.172
Elijah Harkless TOT 24 19 597 22.7 0.655 0.477 0.282 4.3 13.3 8.7 22.6 2 2 9.5 30.7 1.1 0.4 1.5 0.118
Malachi Flynn AUS 26 26 848 22.6 0.668 0.466 0.143 2.9 13.8 8.3 19.3 2.6 1.2 10.4 25.3 1.9 1.7 3.6 0.202
Sterling Manley RIP 23 413 22.6 0.695 0 0.309 14.7 19.2 17 9.4 0.7 2.2 12.4 23.8 0.7 0.3 1.1 0.125
Skal Labissiere STO 28 28 815 22.5 0.667 0.254 0.162 10.6 18.4 14.6 9.9 1 4 7.4 19.9 2.1 0.8 2.9 0.169
Nae'Qwan Tomlin CLC 24 32 1052 22.3 0.643 0.381 0.171 11.7 14.9 13.3 10.7 1.7 4.6 11.2 23.9 1.8 1.1 2.9 0.132
Isaiah Thomas SLC 35 14 431 22.3 0.653 0.464 0.183 1 5.9 3.4 30.8 1.7 1.3 10.3 34.2 0.8 0.1 0.9 0.098
Tyrese Samuel VAL 33 704 22.2 0.697 0.061 0.253 11.2 24.8 17.9 10.2 1.8 4.4 11.2 17.8 1.5 1.2 2.7 0.182
Braxton Key TOT 27 33 1081 22 0.605 0.198 0.207 7.8 23.3 15.4 20.5 4.4 3 14.4 23.5 0.4 2.2 2.6 0.115
Adama Sanogo WCB 22 11 299 21.8 0.586 0.084 0.14 18.3 21 19.6 8.6 1.4 3.4 12.2 25.3 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.09
PJ Hall GRG 13 409 21.6 0.597 0.268 0.121 11.9 31.4 21.5 12.1 1.4 3.2 12.6 25.6 0.3 0.5 0.7 0.086
JD Davison MNE 30 1036 21.5 0.602 0.255 0.209 4.6 11.6 8.2 38.1 2.3 1.3 15.1 31.4 0.9 1.4 2.3 0.106
Jahlil Okafor IND 26 827 21.4 0.736 0.071 0.159 12.1 21.7 17 15 0.4 1.2 17.2 20.7 1.8 0.8 2.6 0.15
Killian Hayes LIN 18 600 21.3 0.584 0.353 0.092 1.6 16.6 8.9 35.6 3.6 1.3 14.3 26.9 0.4 0.9 1.3 0.107
Mac McClung OSC 26 30 982 21.3 0.66 0.376 0.206 3.3 9.2 6.3 29 1.4 1.2 15 30.1 1.6 0.4 2 0.096
Jamaree Bouyea TOT 21 708 21.2 0.651 0.396 0.124 1.9 10.8 6.3 20.6 2.4 2.8 9.5 21.6 1.5 1.3 2.8 0.188
Henry Ellenson WIS 28 34 1173 21.2 0.64 0.253 0.167 10.8 18.6 14.8 14.9 0.9 1.3 9.8 24.6 2.1 1 3.1 0.127
Teddy Allen RGV 28 525 21.2 0.616 0.49 0.102 7.2 13.4 10.2 9.5 3.4 1.3 12.1 29.9 0.3 0.7 1 0.089
David Jones TOT 31 1018 21.2 0.628 0.323 0.185 4.1 19.4 12 17.8 2.2 1.8 12.9 30.9 0 1.7 1.7 0.082
Isaih Moore GBO 20 246 21.1 0.705 0.113 0.274 19.5 21.6 20.6 3.8 1.3 4.8 15.8 15.3 0.5 0.5 0.9 0.184
Jaylen Nowell CCG 25 25 867 21 0.663 0.379 0.156 2 10.3 6.4 26.1 1.8 0.7 11 26.3 1.8 0.9 2.6 0.146
Warith Alatishe TOT 25 28 603 21 0.635 0.034 0.155 13.1 19.2 16.2 10.1 2.9 4.8 11 15.3 0.9 0.9 1.8 0.145
Jarron Cumberland DEL 27 25 801 21 0.663 0.491 0.22 3.1 13.3 7.9 26.3 2.1 2 11.7 23.2 1.6 0.6 2.1 0.128
Kai Jones SDC 24 13 401 20.9 0.836 0.118 0.183 7.3 19.7 13.3 8.3 2 5.1 13.7 12.8 0.9 0.5 1.5 0.176
Enrique Freeman IND 14 480 20.8 0.621 0.255 0.185 12.6 20.5 16.6 12.9 1.2 3.8 9.1 20.4 0.8 0.6 1.5 0.148
Isaiah Miller AUS 26 15 382 20.8 0.541 0.264 0.145 6.4 18.7 12.5 17.8 4.4 1.6 12 26.7 0 1 1.1 0.132
Kevin Knox SCW 25 12 405 20.7 0.677 0.395 0.21 4.5 22.2 13.6 13 1.1 1.5 13.2 26.9 0.4 0.5 0.9 0.102
Kavion Pippen MNE 28 13 94 20.5 0.665 0.12 0.12 18.2 15.6 16.9 4.8 1.1 5.9 13.2 14.2 0.2 0.1 0.4 0.182
Jesse Edwards IWA 18 452 20.4 0.646 0.021 0.276 14.5 21.8 18 7.1 2 7.9 16 18.3 0.3 0.4 0.7 0.076
Mason Jones STO 26 20 720 20.1 0.665 0.556 0.217 1.7 13.1 7.5 30.1 1.6 0.6 16 25.9 1.3 0.5 1.8 0.118
Quenton Jackson IND 13 490 20 0.648 0.204 0.194 5.3 11 8.3 23.3 2.6 0.9 13.6 24.8 0.6 0.6 1.2 0.115
Greg Brown III MXC 23 31 742 20 0.631 0.285 0.251 7.7 19.2 13.6 7 1.1 7.3 14.7 28.4 -0.4 1.3 0.9 0.058
Justyn Hamilton OKL 26 404 19.8 0.622 0.047 0.168 11.2 27.1 19.3 11.2 1.1 4.3 13 19.9 0.4 0.8 1.2 0.137
Kylor Kelley SBL 27 18 438 19.7 0.704 0.022 0.119 7.7 22.9 15.3 9.6 0.6 7.7 13.9 16.7 0.6 0.6 1.2 0.127
Isaiah Mobley DEL 22 622 19.7 0.601 0.366 0.176 7.8 23.2 15.1 19.9 1.4 2.5 11.9 25.9 0.3 0.6 0.9 0.069
Jahmir Young TOT 24 30 1036 19.7 0.553 0.229 0.145 5.2 10 7.6 34.4 3 0.8 13.3 28.3 0.5 0.8 1.3 0.06
Jamarion Sharp TEX 29 627 19.5 0.682 0 0.254 11.4 23.9 17.7 7.3 1.2 13.4 20.5 12.1 0.5 1.2 1.6 0.124
Zyon Pullin TOT 17 598 19.5 0.645 0.267 0.227 2.3 14.4 8.3 26.5 1.8 1 11.3 22.4 1 0.4 1.4 0.112
Trey Alexander GRG 22 809 19.5 0.617 0.356 0.201 1.8 15.2 8.4 24.1 2 1 13.4 29.1 0.6 0.5 1.1 0.063
Jahmi'us Ramsey OKL 23 25 710 19.4 0.629 0.41 0.181 2.1 14.8 8.6 18.3 2.4 0.6 13 28.4 0.1 1.1 1.2 0.083
T.J. Warren WES 31 21 759 19.3 0.618 0.516 0.143 4.8 12.5 8.6 17.9 2.3 1.9 10.8 23.9 1.1 0.9 2 0.125
Ishmael Lane IND 23 390 19.3 0.619 0.123 0.333 17.2 21 19.2 13.7 0.8 3.1 12.2 20.7 0.5 0.5 1 0.124
Michael Foster Jr. CCG 27 603 19.1 0.669 0.169 0.219 12.2 16.4 14.4 14.9 2.2 6 18.1 17.7 0.7 1.1 1.7 0.137
Max Fiedler TOT 30 666 19.1 0.645 0.095 0.197 13.6 25.5 19.5 20.7 2.2 4 24.6 14.2 0.7 1 1.7 0.12
Myron Gardner OSC 34 795 19.1 0.659 0.441 0.125 9.5 20.8 15.3 9.7 2.4 2.8 15.9 20.1 0.9 1 1.9 0.116
TyTy Washington Jr. VAL 23 21 699 19.1 0.599 0.379 0.118 1.9 13.2 7.5 33.3 1.1 0.9 12.1 27.8 0.6 0.6 1.2 0.085
Bryce McGowens RIP 22 16 547 19.1 0.662 0.297 0.353 1.9 10 6 16.5 2.1 2 13.3 31.2 0 0.4 0.4 0.039
Ike Anigbogu TOT 26 27 381 18.8 0.578 0.074 0.189 20.5 25.6 23 4.5 0.5 11 16.9 14.5 0.3 0.7 0.9 0.119
Reggie Perry GBO 24 26 715 18.8 0.582 0.279 0.145 6.6 25.3 16.3 14.4 1.3 2.5 12.6 29 -0.2 1.3 1.1 0.073
Charles Bediako GRG 22 34 859 18.7 0.685 0.081 0.356 14.9 25.4 20.1 6.2 1.3 4.4 18.4 16.1 0.9 0.9 1.8 0.101
Alex Reese TOT 25 21 631 18.6 0.588 0.644 0.056 7.2 16.7 11.9 6.6 2.1 4.9 9.3 23.1 0.2 0.8 1 0.074
Hason Ward MNE 34 799 18.5 0.705 0.053 0.176 9.1 21.5 15.3 8.6 1.7 7.6 21.4 14.2 0.7 1.7 2.4 0.143
Drew Peterson MNE 25 15 529 18.5 0.616 0.67 0.103 4.4 15.8 10.2 25.6 2.1 0.3 16.7 24.4 0.6 0.8 1.3 0.119
Jacob Toppin TOT 24 19 723 18.5 0.634 0.337 0.187 6.1 16.2 11.1 15 1 1.6 11.2 22.5 0.9 0.7 1.6 0.106
David Roddy TOT 23 12 344 18.4 0.628 0.591 0.078 2.8 17.9 10.2 13.7 1.9 1.4 10.7 22 0.4 0.4 0.8 0.111
Feron Hunt CLC 25 32 1121 18.3 0.607 0.193 0.166 9.7 18.9 14.4 11.6 1.7 3.7 13.3 21.9 0.6 1.3 1.9 0.083
Kevon Harris CPS 27 30 953 18.3 0.601 0.388 0.23 5.2 18.3 11.6 19.4 2.6 1.3 12.9 25.9 0.2 1.4 1.5 0.076
Baylor Scheierman MNE 24 14 497 18.1 0.619 0.656 0.167 3.2 15.2 9.2 22.1 2.5 0.4 13.8 23.8 0.6 0.7 1.3 0.126
Jameer Nelson Jr. AUS 30 572 18.1 0.589 0.253 0.234 6.3 8.4 7.3 17.7 3.5 1.1 14.3 25.6 0.1 1.2 1.3 0.11
Markquis Nowell RGV 25 33 994 18.1 0.584 0.601 0.139 1.7 9.7 5.7 38.2 3.1 0.8 18.5 25.4 0.9 1.1 2 0.097
David Stockton VAL 33 24 613 18 0.661 0.556 0.18 2.7 8.5 5.5 32.2 2.2 0.3 16 21.8 1 0.6 1.6 0.126
Patrick Baldwin Jr. TOT 22 23 737 18 0.606 0.514 0.102 5 18.4 11.5 11.9 1.7 4.2 11.6 22.3 0.4 0.9 1.3 0.088
Cole Swider TOT 18 641 17.8 0.688 0.68 0.1 3.7 14.4 9 7.6 1.3 0.6 5.9 19.8 1.2 0.5 1.7 0.129
Tosan Evbuomwan TOT 23 15 506 17.8 0.642 0.313 0.255 4.6 20.2 12.2 14.7 1.5 1.6 10.8 22.3 0.4 0.6 1 0.093
Mamadi Diakite VAL 28 27 725 17.7 0.684 0.364 0.232 6.2 27 16.4 11.7 1.2 4.4 17.1 18.3 0.5 1.2 1.7 0.11
Chris Livingston WIS 11 314 17.7 0.64 0.333 0.275 6.7 22.6 14.9 11.3 2 1.5 15.8 26.6 -0.2 0.4 0.3 0.039
Keaton Wallace CPS 13 409 17.6 0.578 0.568 0.063 2.4 14.2 8.1 26.2 2.6 1 12.6 22 0.3 0.5 0.8 0.097
KJ Simpson GBO 15 528 17.6 0.616 0.397 0.201 4.1 13.1 8.8 19.3 2 1 14.2 25.6 0.2 0.8 1 0.089
Terry Taylor STO 25 31 1078 17.6 0.576 0.353 0.095 7.5 18.7 13.2 14.4 1 3 10.4 22.2 0.9 1 1.9 0.085
Josh Oduro BIR 28 839 17.5 0.616 0.043 0.202 12.7 19.3 16 18.3 1.7 3 17.6 18.5 0.7 0.9 1.6 0.09
Luke Travers CLC 16 544 17.5 0.553 0.222 0.217 7.8 22.1 15.1 32.7 2.1 3.3 22.3 23.2 -0.2 0.8 0.5 0.045
Nate Hinton TOT 25 37 1089 17.3 0.6 0.448 0.126 8.7 22.7 15.6 15.8 3 0.6 14 16.6 1.2 1.2 2.4 0.108
Jackson Rowe SCW 28 25 825 17.3 0.632 0.384 0.186 6.6 18.3 12.6 11.7 2.1 1.8 12.6 19.5 0.8 1 1.8 0.105
Jay Scrubb MNE 24 31 766 17.3 0.562 0.517 0.168 5.2 12.7 9 13.2 2.8 2.2 12.3 29 -0.3 1.3 0.9 0.057
Malevy Leons OKL 25 34 908 17.2 0.627 0.245 0.249 11.2 16.9 14.1 11.3 2.5 3.3 13.9 15.2 1 1.7 2.7 0.145
Chuma Okeke WES 26 28 1020 17.2 0.582 0.637 0.14 5.8 17 11.3 18.9 1.9 3.2 11.8 19.4 1.1 1.4 2.5 0.117
RJ Nembhard Jr. CCG 25 17 561 17.2 0.702 0.253 0.296 3.5 15.4 9.7 30 1.2 0.6 21.3 21.4 0.6 0.6 1.2 0.107
Micah Potter SLC 26 13 352 17.2 0.584 0.52 0.18 9.9 21.3 15.5 10.7 1.3 3.1 12.4 22.2 0.2 0.3 0.5 0.072
RayJ Dennis TOT 20 780 17.2 0.563 0.403 0.126 2 14.6 8.4 34.3 2.5 1.7 16.4 26.9 -0.1 1 0.9 0.054
Jonathan Mogbo RAP 23 12 365 17 0.686 0.211 0.326 5.6 21.7 13.6 19.6 2 2.8 18.1 15.8 0.4 0.4 0.8 0.107
E.J. Liddell WCB 27 872 17 0.613 0.462 0.195 7.7 14.3 11 11.8 1.4 5.9 13.1 19.9 0.4 1 1.4 0.076
David Johnson MHU 23 22 561 17 0.639 0.588 0.107 4.6 13.3 8.9 16.2 1.2 1.7 14.7 25.2 0.4 0.2 0.6 0.049
Fernandus Brown IWA 33 765 16.9 0.676 0.046 0.144 9.8 22.8 16 6.1 2.3 3.2 12.7 11.8 1.1 0.5 1.6 0.1
Armando Bacot MHU 34 1053 16.9 0.607 0.328 0.18 8.1 24.4 16.1 9.8 1.4 2.6 13.9 23.8 0.1 0.9 1 0.044
Parker Van Dyke AUS 16 100 16.8 0.679 0.744 0 5.1 15.7 10.4 8.9 0 0 11.4 19.2 0.2 0.1 0.4 0.171
Tyson Etienne LIN 32 1145 16.8 0.669 0.538 0.172 1.7 7.6 4.6 14.2 2 0.4 9.1 19.6 2 0.8 2.8 0.119
Erik Stevenson CCG 25 30 675 16.8 0.612 0.552 0.164 3.4 14.5 9.2 25.9 2.2 1.6 18 29.2 -0.2 0.9 0.7 0.049
Jordan Goodwin SBL 26 14 357 16.8 0.509 0.376 0.088 7.3 18.3 12.7 21.3 4 1.6 11.4 28.3 -0.4 0.6 0.2 0.025
Drew Cisse SDC 23 312 16.7 0.662 0 0.125 16.4 26.8 21.4 7 3 4 26.2 9.7 0.3 0.6 0.9 0.136
Jaylan Gainey SLC 23 292 16.7 0.668 0 0.196 9.8 19.1 14.4 9.8 1.2 11.2 21.3 10.2 0.3 0.4 0.7 0.108
Ulrich Chomche RAP 19 459 16.7 0.583 0.033 0.156 15.3 24.2 19.7 7.7 0.8 10.9 22.1 15.9 -0.1 0.7 0.6 0.065
Kevin Cross RGV 26 402 16.7 0.596 0.186 0.122 11.2 24.4 17.7 6.5 1.5 2 13.8 22 0 0.5 0.5 0.064
Robert Baker OSC 17 330 16.6 0.565 0.516 0.102 5.5 20.4 13.2 7.2 2.1 4.8 8.2 19 0.2 0.4 0.6 0.093
Blake Hinson SCW 34 997 16.6 0.613 0.622 0.127 5.1 12.6 8.9 7 1.2 0.8 8.5 25.9 0.6 0.8 1.4 0.068
Bronny James SBL 11 376 16.6 0.591 0.479 0.141 3.2 13.8 8.4 25.7 2.8 0.7 16.1 28.7 -0.2 0.4 0.2 0.025

See, at least you are being productive. I just don't like posts complaining and hating for no reason. If this thread is about making the Lakers better, I want to hear how we can make that happen.

That being said, while Bronny sucks, all these players you listed above are also trash. It's similar to if I said I can't run a marathon any faster, and you pointed out that I had a piece of yarn stuck to my shirt, and took the yarn off for me, saying the lighter weight will help me run a marathon faster. True in technical terms, but in practicality, the difference is so minimal, it is not even measurable.

If Lakers signed one of these guys and dropped Bronny, what impact do you think it makes on their record? I'd say any one of these guys results in 1 more Laker win through 82 games and I think I"m being very generous. I'm also confident none of these guys help them win a single playoff game and would only get garbage minutes in the playoffs.

Basically we're arguing over something that, even were it to happen, has no discernable impact over any of our lives or any of the basketball we watch. I will at least admit I'm wasting my time, but will you guys?

[PRguy23]

For the 55th pick in the draft he gets people.talking about him. His Jersey sales alone make the roster spot worth it.

[GrindCityHustle]

He is like Liangelo Ball. The 2k culture likes him and don't care.

[Biff]

Why do we need a thread about the 15th roster spot on any team? Who cares? 15th man on any team rarely plays and rarely contributes anything.

[JellosJigglin]

Why do we need a thread about the 15th roster spot on any team? Who cares? 15th man on any team rarely plays and rarely contributes anything.

Because fringe NBA players like the 15th man usually have to bust their ass and earn that spot. That's what this discussion is really about. Those guys might bounce around Latin America or Europe or China before finding a G-League roster spot and then maybe showing an NBA team they have something to offer.

They don't usually stink it up for one year in college, then still get drafted, and then get a guaranteed NBA contract. It's shameful and an insult to those guys who are grinding in other leagues just to get a look from an NBA scout.

This is sports, where your performance matters. It shouldn't be treated like a white collar corporate job where the boss hires his nephew to work the mail room.

People bringing up Giannis and his bros but what does that have to do with Bronny? Classic whataboutism. One doesn't make the other acceptable.

[MavsDirk41]

Why do we need a thread about the 15th roster spot on any team? Who cares? 15th man on any team rarely plays and rarely contributes anything.

Because fringe NBA players like the 15th man usually have to bust their ass and earn that spot. That's what this discussion is really about. Those guys might bounce around Latin America or Europe or China before finding a G-League roster spot and then maybe showing an NBA team they have something to offer.

They don't usually stink it up for one year in college, then still get drafted, and then get a guaranteed NBA contract. It's shameful and an insult to those guys who are grinding in other leagues just to get a look from an NBA scout.

This is sports, where your performance matters. It shouldn't be treated like a white collar corporate job where the boss hires his nephew to work the mail room.

People bringing up Giannis and his bros but what does that have to do with Bronny? Classic whataboutism. One doesn't make the other acceptable.

Lol The Secret of My Success? The boss hires his nephew Michael J Fox to work in the mailroom. That statement made me think of that movie.