Raps vs Celtics: Preseason - Wed, Oct 15th, 2025 - 730PM EST

[bballsparkin]

Probably the Celtics, I'm sure they're extremely happy to have White.

RJ + 9 is a respectable offer for future MVP Mr White. This purported offer is worthy of a chuckle at most. I would not be happy if the Raptors took that deal. Sure it's fair value but it's a questionable direction. Remember, Scottie can't shoot?

Boston has Tatum, Brown, refs, great drafting. They don't need RJ and 9 like we do. RJ's second year is a problem for them. Granted. Who wants to watch RJ and Brown play together? haha. And Brown is much better defensively so no RJ. That's the joke right? .

What would be the questionable direction? They're trying to compete this season. Your roster isn't locked into all these long term deals and this expensive if you're not trying to. White helps them win. And yes, Scottie can't shoot which is why adding a high volume 3 point shooter helps.

I mean the Raptors. I'm not talking about Boston. They're direction is easypeasy. fix the books and retool.

Derek White is obviously nice to have on your team. He can help you win. Put you over the top. If you are Boston you keep him of course. Rj hurts the tax. For them not trading DW for RJ and 9 makes sense. Not worth laughing at though...

I wouldn't hate the trade as a Raptor fan. But I would always rather build through the draft and be patient.

[bballsparkin]

cmb is our only hope lol he can change everything imo

basically

[Johnny Bball]

Box score has Barnes at 3 TOs'. Is it me or he did have wayyy more and probably 3 in the first quarter.

[Johnny Bball]

I'm not as knowledgeable about basketball as most posters but I think the Raptors should lean into RJ more as a core player than the steady drumbeat of trying to trade/dump him - I'm expecting RJ to be the Raptor's best player until the team trades him at the deadline and will live to regret that decision.

I think its arguable that the Raptors haven't had a player as good as Ingram in 5-6 years. Health excluded.

[Tor_Raps]

The good:
RJ, Ochai and Poeltl (for his first game)

The bad:
Scottie is a depressing scorer
IQ needs to make his shots but he also cant beat anyone off the dribble or finish at the rim.

[bballsparkin]

Barnes really should be bullying people. He's got the wrong mindset.

I agree with that for sure.

barnes doesn’t have the wrong mindset he has a limited skillset. You guys have been talking about tje wrong **** things year after year. I said this before if Barnes was on another team you guys would be the first person **** on him calling him overrated. It’s like because he’s on the home team fans refuse to be objective.

Sure, maybe he can't bully efficiently. I never expected much from Barnes for your information. I thought it was funny that fans thought having a career outcome of Lamar Odom was funny. A 2 X NBA champion, ROY, 6th man of the year. Not bad for a #4 pick.

You guys. Are you trolling me? Feels like it.

[Potential]

It looks like Scott doesn't even have space to work with downhill. The paint always looks packed when he has the ball

[YoungG]

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[Thaddy]

If we pulled off RJ and 9th for White we would be a lock for the top 4 in the East. He's a great 2 way player and kind of under looked on Boston. I would even contemplate having him as the full time PG and trading IQ. The shooting and defense make him an elite third star, and he can create better than RJ.

[Tha Cynic]

Barnes looks terrible out there. Not a big fan of how he’s trying to play. That passive game is still there.

Quickley can’t get a shot off as usual.

Based on preseason no one has improved their shooting.

Ingram moves like a star.

We’ll see how the regular season goes.

Something just feels off with the game of basketball in general. It just doesn’t feel like an entertaining product anymore like it was in the 2000s and 2010s.

[dballislife]

on a positive note ochai continues to play great defense and hit 3s

[YogurtProducer]

Suggs was a 17,4,4 per 36 minutes and more importantly he was coming off an all NBA defensive team. Plus they got him on a declining contract. Even then a lot of people said he was overpaid but it looks like he’s worth his money since Orlando completely collapsed when he was injured last year. I have no idea who exactly we were bidding against for Quickley.

For me, it was the stupidity of not letting him go to the RFA market last year and seeing what the market was saying - $25m per was the maximum I would have paid and it was known that very few teams had money this last offseason if he did decide to become a FA - the Raptors seem to perennially be bidding against themselves.

Most of those deals where we "outbid" ourselves worked out pretty well didn't they?

Shockingly, they know more than our RealGM board does

We obviously had IQ a few more million in exchange for a flat deal, no player option, and a 5-year deal. It’s the definition of a gamble you hope pays off huge in the last 2-3 years of the deal.

I’m sure if we really wanted, we could’ve offered a 3 year, 75 million contract, with a player option, and then next summer he would’ve opted out and we would’ve ended up paying him more then $32.5M anyways.

It’s a negotiation. You don’t get term + discounts + no player options like it’s 2k

[Thaddy]

IQ needs to continue putting up a heavy amount of 3s. I want to see 10-12 a game. If he can hit 4-5 of those it would make everyone around him better. He needs to leave the floater at home though, it's a low efficiency shot.

[Shakril]

It looks like Scott doesn't even have space to work with downhill. The paint always looks packed when he has the ball

If he could knock down his open 3s, the paint would be more open for him. Boston packed the paint and let scottie shoot the 3, knowing how bad he shoots.

[Shakril]

He absolutely is if you value the advanced stats. He's closer to top 10.

And here is exhibit a of why you need to watch games.


The best season of his career was a 16/5/5 guy as a 3rd/4th fiddle. Let’s just calm down on the “top 10” player talk

I am saying the metrics have him closer to top 10.

Yes, because he played on a loaded team with 2 super high USG guys and hasn't had the opportunity to be a feature guy. Let's see what season he has this year. I think he's capable of a lot more and will show it.

Perfect example, that stats are meaningless without context.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Boston was playing really hard. The Raptors didn't play scared and would have won without the refs.

Yes, Scottie is not making any shots. He's not going to post a 27TS or whatever, so I don't see the point in complaining.

Sandro's not making shots, but he's been really good attacking. When CMB gets back out there that unit should hold their ground.

Really thought Agbaji, Shead and Walter did a great job wearing down Pritchard and White. White obviously had an awesome game but the Raptors forced a lot of tough shots from him. Their offense was mostly just him hunting down 3s.

One thing I hate is that we're so predictable attacking the rim. We leave a lot on the table.

[MoneyBall]

Isn't this the first game this starting five played together?

[MEDIC]

Something just feels off with the game of basketball in general. It just doesn’t feel like an entertaining product anymore like it was in the 2000s and 2010s.

100%. It may partly be due to the quality of the Raptors, but I find.I just get frustrated watching it. More so than watching any other basketball league or any other sport. The inconsistency of the whistle is one of the biggest problems. The players are another problem........most play too soft.

Having said that, I always knew this about the NBA. I have never been an NBA fan. Even 90's & 2000's, I liked watching NCAA ball more......and the NBA product has gotten a lot worse since that time.

Its been refreshing watching Baseball. I don't experience the same level of frustration. Even when the Jays are losing. Same with the Leafs.

[MEDIC]

Boston was playing really hard. The Raptors didn't play scared and would have won without the refs.

Boston was punking them in the 1st quarter. Boston looked like a team of professionals. Raps looked super soft. To the Raps creadit, they picked it up aftee that.

Refs treated White like he was the 2nd coming of MJ.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Boston was playing really hard. The Raptors didn't play scared and would have won without the refs.

Boston was punking them in the 1st quarter. Boston looked like a team of professionals. Raps looked super soft. To the Raps creadit, they picked it up aftee that.

Refs treated White like he was the 2nd coming of MJ.

nah it was like a 12 point margin, which is nothing in this NBA. The Celtics are trying to establish a really physical style of play. The fact that the Raptors battled back and carried the play for most of the game was really encouraging.