The last Antetokounmpo added to the Bucks payroll

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Re: The last Antetokounmpo added to the Bucks payroll 

Post#121 » by lambchop » Thu Oct 16, 2025 10:59 am

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In reality? What a stupid take. If someone like Bronny who averaged 22/5/5/2 in 59 TS% and shot 38% 3PT in 8.4 attempts per game don't deserve to play in G league then who tf is worthy enough to play there who's actually built to develop young players like him. Some people here just really have dumb opinion and for them that"s their reality.


This. Also, people don't realise how bad the G-League is. Someone like Bronny SHOULD be able to average 20 there on good efficiency.

And, no, it doesn't put a stain on their legacy. It simply shows the reality of nepotism, wielding power and business decisions.

Depending on how society progresses with gender fluidity I could even see moms and wives playing at some point.


Thing is, those "numbers" aren't really accurate, or at least don't cover all games.

Bronnie didn't play 11 but 18 games in G league, first 7 were part of Preparation Tournament/cup.


For 18 games total, his numbers are around 18 ppg, 4,5 apg, 3,3 TO, 53,9% TS on team that went 9-9 during that period and -14 real plus minus.

His usage (27%) is sky high because who his daddy is.
His raw numbers are nothing spectacular (334 points on 294 shots)
His efficiency overall has been below league's average.
His assist to TO rate is pretty bad for lead guard.


Does he belong in G league now? Maybe. That wasn't my point. Would he be in G league without Daddy-Bron ? No. And that was my point.

He was college bench player. Those type of players don't make it even to G league.
He is given every opportunity possible to showcase himself, like Giannis bros, because of nepotism and power plays by his father.

Much like Giannis bros are given opportunity after opportunity to play in Europe regardless how bad they are.


Bronny would still be a pro somewhere and could "make" the g-league. Of course, he'd earn less in the g-league than elsewhere. His path would have been different though, I agree.

As for Giannis' brothers, no one is forcing teams to sign them. Kostas even played in Spain and France. Those teams are signing him, because they think he can help them. Same goes for Thanasis who played a season in Spain. You can't blame everything on nepotism.

If Bronny or Kostas play in Russia next season, will that be nepotism too?
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Re: The last Antetokounmpo added to the Bucks payroll 

Post#122 » by Mirotic12 » Thu Oct 16, 2025 5:57 pm

AussieBuck wrote:At some point you have to realise this isn't about Giannis making Spanoulis irrelevant. This dude hates all of the Antetokounmpo family for reasons. Anyone with two eyeballs can see that Greece has absolute trash bigs (guards too obviously) and that Kostas had a huge impact a bunch times off the bench. I was in Athens watching the tournament with a heap of locals and Kostas was almost as popular as Giannis with his 5 minute Bill Russell spurts!

The Lithuania game I thought would be a loss but Kostas just popped after larentzakis shat his pants all over the place.


Very thinly veiled. You think you are clever with this extremely thinly veiled BS. You are not.

What a disgusting and vile post.

Everyone who thinks Giannis' brothers aren't good and are getting the benefit of nepotism, look at this post from AussieBuck.

You can't think Giannis' brothers are not good and benefit from nepotism without "hating all of the Antetokounmpo family for reasons".

So yeah, everyone in this thread that thinks this is nepotism, that is the accusation that AussieBuck is saying is the actual reason behind that viewpoint, "hating all of the Antetokounmpo family for reasons".
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Re: The last Antetokounmpo added to the Bucks payroll 

Post#123 » by Hoop Hunter » Thu Oct 16, 2025 6:00 pm

azcatz11 wrote:This is the same thing as paying Kawhi under the table. Ridiculous

NO, it is not. The Bucks and the Lakers have the right to be stupid and sign family members that don't belong in the NBA.

They are doing it out in the open. Nothing illegal in CBA terms. HUGE difference.
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Re: The last Antetokounmpo added to the Bucks payroll 

Post#124 » by Mirotic12 » Thu Oct 16, 2025 6:45 pm

lambchop wrote:As for Giannis' brothers, no one is forcing teams to sign them. Kostas even played in Spain and France. Those teams are signing him, because they think he can help them. Same goes for Thanasis who played a season in Spain. You can't blame everything on nepotism.

If Bronny or Kostas play in Russia next season, will that be nepotism too?


Thanasis was the 12th man when he was on Panathinaikos during his peak as a player. His role on Panathinaikos as a player was to come in the game and foul as much as he could and see how many fouls the refs would let him get away with.

That proves he should be in the NBA past his prime and after a blown achilles?

Kostas has been a 3rd or 4th string center on all his European teams, even when he was on Asvel, one of the worst teams in the EuroLeague, that had an 8-20 record that season, and even when he was on Murcia, a team not even playing in EuroLeague.

So, he was a third string center on a non EuroLeague team, and yet somehow, he is supposedly a legit EuroLeague player?
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Re: The last Antetokounmpo added to the Bucks payroll 

Post#125 » by lambchop » Thu Oct 16, 2025 6:54 pm

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lambchop wrote:As for Giannis' brothers, no one is forcing teams to sign them. Kostas even played in Spain and France. Those teams are signing him, because they think he can help them. Same goes for Thanasis who played a season in Spain. You can't blame everything on nepotism.

If Bronny or Kostas play in Russia next season, will that be nepotism too?


Thanasis was the 12th man when he was on Panathinaikos during his peak as a player. His role on Panathinaikos as a player was to come in the game and foul as much as he could and see how many fouls the refs would let him get away with.

That proves he should be in the NBA past his prime and after a blown achilles?

Kostas has been a 3rd or 4th string center on all his European teams, even when he was on Asvel, one of the worst teams in the EuroLeague, that had an 8-20 record that season, and even when he was on Murcia, a team not even playing in EuroLeague.

So, he was a third string center on a non EuroLeague team, and yet somehow, he is supposedly a legit EuroLeague player?


That's not what I was talking about though. I clearly acknowledge they're in the NBA because of nepotism. And, as I've said, it's good that people see the reality of business and nepotism and now can stop believing their fairytales about how "only the very best play in the NBA".

There are a variety of different roles in the NBA. Guys like Udonis Haslem, Antetokumpo brothers etc. all have specialised roles. Not everyone is an excellent basketball player.
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Re: The last Antetokounmpo added to the Bucks payroll 

Post#126 » by AussieBuck » Thu Oct 16, 2025 7:50 pm

Mirotic12 wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:At some point you have to realise this isn't about Giannis making Spanoulis irrelevant. This dude hates all of the Antetokounmpo family for reasons. Anyone with two eyeballs can see that Greece has absolute trash bigs (guards too obviously) and that Kostas had a huge impact a bunch times off the bench. I was in Athens watching the tournament with a heap of locals and Kostas was almost as popular as Giannis with his 5 minute Bill Russell spurts!

The Lithuania game I thought would be a loss but Kostas just popped after larentzakis shat his pants all over the place.


Very thinly veiled. You think you are clever with this extremely thinly veiled BS. You are not.

What a disgusting and vile post.

Everyone who thinks Giannis' brothers aren't good and are getting the benefit of nepotism, look at this post from AussieBuck.

You can't think Giannis' brothers are not good and benefit from nepotism without "hating all of the Antetokounmpo family for reasons".

So yeah, everyone in this thread that thinks this is nepotism, that it is the accusation that AussieBuck is saying is the actual reason behind that viewpoint, "hating all of the Antetokounmpo family for reasons".

Don't cry when you get called out, own your hate. You frequently come on here to tell outright lies about any or all of the Antetokounmpo family. The rubbish you posted about Kostas was blatant. Your entire posting history is dishonest. Just look at your username, it's from a time you pretended to be Spanish. You're fundamentally dishonest and not good at hiding it.
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Re: The last Antetokounmpo added to the Bucks payroll 

Post#127 » by Mirotic12 » Thu Oct 16, 2025 8:09 pm

AussieBuck wrote:
Mirotic12 wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:At some point you have to realise this isn't about Giannis making Spanoulis irrelevant. This dude hates all of the Antetokounmpo family for reasons. Anyone with two eyeballs can see that Greece has absolute trash bigs (guards too obviously) and that Kostas had a huge impact a bunch times off the bench. I was in Athens watching the tournament with a heap of locals and Kostas was almost as popular as Giannis with his 5 minute Bill Russell spurts!

The Lithuania game I thought would be a loss but Kostas just popped after larentzakis shat his pants all over the place.


Very thinly veiled. You think you are clever with this extremely thinly veiled BS. You are not.

What a disgusting and vile post.

Everyone who thinks Giannis' brothers aren't good and are getting the benefit of nepotism, look at this post from AussieBuck.

You can't think Giannis' brothers are not good and benefit from nepotism without "hating all of the Antetokounmpo family for reasons".

So yeah, everyone in this thread that thinks this is nepotism, that it is the accusation that AussieBuck is saying is the actual reason behind that viewpoint, "hating all of the Antetokounmpo family for reasons".

Don't cry when you get called out, own your hate. You frequently come on here to tell outright lies about any or all of the Antetokounmpo family. The rubbish you posted about Kostas was blatant. Your entire posting history is dishonest. Just look at your username, it's from a time you pretended to be Spanish. You're fundamentally dishonest and not good at hiding it.


AussieBuck just confirmed that they think saying Giannis' brothers benefit from nepotism is racist and means you are a racist.

So, AussieBuck is openly calling several people in this thread racist, for simply pointing out actual true facts.

Everyone here that thinks Giannis' brothers have benefited from.nepotsim is a hate filled racist according to this vile rhetoric.

There is no need for such very shameful and disgusting false accusations and character defamation here.

AussieBuck, in future posts of yours, please at least try to pretend to be at least somewhat civil towards other posters in discussions here. That is a very low bar for you to attempt to follow, and it's the very least that should be expected on how posters treat one another.
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Re: The last Antetokounmpo added to the Bucks payroll 

Post#128 » by AussieBuck » Thu Oct 16, 2025 8:46 pm

Mirotic12 wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:
Mirotic12 wrote:
Very thinly veiled. You think you are clever with this extremely thinly veiled BS. You are not.

What a disgusting and vile post.

Everyone who thinks Giannis' brothers aren't good and are getting the benefit of nepotism, look at this post from AussieBuck.

You can't think Giannis' brothers are not good and benefit from nepotism without "hating all of the Antetokounmpo family for reasons".

So yeah, everyone in this thread that thinks this is nepotism, that it is the accusation that AussieBuck is saying is the actual reason behind that viewpoint, "hating all of the Antetokounmpo family for reasons".

Don't cry when you get called out, own your hate. You frequently come on here to tell outright lies about any or all of the Antetokounmpo family. The rubbish you posted about Kostas was blatant. Your entire posting history is dishonest. Just look at your username, it's from a time you pretended to be Spanish. You're fundamentally dishonest and not good at hiding it.


AussieBuck just confirmed that they think saying Giannis' brothers benefit from nepotism is racist and means you are a racist.

So, AussieBuck is openly calling several people in this thread racist, for simply pointing out actual true facts.

Everyone here that thinks Giannis' brothers have benefited from.nepotsim is a hate filled racist according to this vile rhetoric.

There is no need for such very shameful and disgusting false accusations and character defamation here.

AussieBuck, in future posts of yours, please at least try to pretend to be at least somewhat civil towards other posters in discussions here. That is a very low bar for you to attempt to follow, and it's the very least that should be expected on how posters treat one another.

I'm sorry that you don't understand that you can't verbal someone when the words are right there to see on the page. Suddenly I'm not entirely sure you have an IQ of 197.
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Post#129 » by og15 » Sat Oct 18, 2025 1:24 am

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One should be more critical of the players falling for his pump fake at the 3PT line, that's some extremely low IQ stuff.

Thanasis is not a good NBA player, he's a poor one, and he's either a low light or a highlight, not much in between, but Thanasis is also not a problem as a 15th man as a energy guy, good teammate, motivator, etc. Bronny actually needs more of that Thanasis energy when he's out on the floor. While there's the brother connection, when it comes to end of bench vet type guys, teams carrying guys who aren't there because they are the best basketball option is not abnormal. That roster spot is not affecting their outcome through the players on court play, but it can affect outcomes through off court things in practice, preparation, etc.
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Post#130 » by sashaturiaf » Sat Oct 18, 2025 2:59 am

Mirotic12 wrote:This is an outrageous level of nepotism.

Last year, Alex Antetokounmpo was the worst player on the Greek mid-level club PAOK.

This year, he was the worst player on the Greek mid-level club Aris.

He's at the level of a European national domestic 2nd division player.

This is like Bronny times 10.


We get it. He sucks. But he's not 10 times worse than Bronny, no one is
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Post#131 » by Mirotic12 » Sat Oct 18, 2025 5:16 am

sashaturiaf wrote:
Mirotic12 wrote:This is an outrageous level of nepotism.

Last year, Alex Antetokounmpo was the worst player on the Greek mid-level club PAOK.

This year, he was the worst player on the Greek mid-level club Aris.

He's at the level of a European national domestic 2nd division player.

This is like Bronny times 10.


We get it. He sucks. But he's not 10 times worse than Bronny, no one is


I am pretty sure that Bronny could easily average more than 1 point per game in Europe.
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Post#132 » by lambchop » Sat Oct 18, 2025 7:54 am

sashaturiaf wrote:
Mirotic12 wrote:This is an outrageous level of nepotism.

Last year, Alex Antetokounmpo was the worst player on the Greek mid-level club PAOK.

This year, he was the worst player on the Greek mid-level club Aris.

He's at the level of a European national domestic 2nd division player.

This is like Bronny times 10.


We get it. He sucks. But he's not 10 times worse than Bronny, no one is


You're wrong regarding this. Also, was already in the g-league a few years ago averaging 6 ppg on 34/24/67 shooting splits with 3.4 rpg and an efficiency of 6 in 20mpg.

Why use hypothetical comparisons when we can simply use raw numbers and see that Bronny is significantly better than Alex at pretty much everything related to basketball?

Get the hypocrisy out of your system.
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Post#133 » by tirador » Sat Oct 18, 2025 8:41 am

Mirotic12 wrote:
sashaturiaf wrote:
Mirotic12 wrote:This is an outrageous level of nepotism.

Last year, Alex Antetokounmpo was the worst player on the Greek mid-level club PAOK.

This year, he was the worst player on the Greek mid-level club Aris.

He's at the level of a European national domestic 2nd division player.

This is like Bronny times 10.


We get it. He sucks. But he's not 10 times worse than Bronny, no one is


I am pretty sure that Bronny could easily average more than 1 point per game in Europe.


What do u mean by "Europe"? Bronny is a 2 Feb ( former Leb plata) level player. He is not by far an ACB or even a 1 Feb ( leb oro) player. That is a third tier league in Spain, most players are semipro. If he was called James Bronny instead of Bronny James he would be working at Wallmart.
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Post#134 » by sashaturiaf » Sat Oct 18, 2025 9:24 am

lambchop wrote:
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Mirotic12 wrote:This is an outrageous level of nepotism.

Last year, Alex Antetokounmpo was the worst player on the Greek mid-level club PAOK.

This year, he was the worst player on the Greek mid-level club Aris.

He's at the level of a European national domestic 2nd division player.

This is like Bronny times 10.


We get it. He sucks. But he's not 10 times worse than Bronny, no one is


You're wrong regarding this. Also, was already in the g-league a few years ago averaging 6 ppg on 34/24/67 shooting splits with 3.4 rpg and an efficiency of 6 in 20mpg.

Why use hypothetical comparisons when we can simply use raw numbers and see that Bronny is significantly better than Alex at pretty much everything related to basketball?

Get the hypocrisy out of your system.



Alex is 6"7 with Greek freak genes. That alone makes him better than a 6'1 guy that shoots in the 20%s from 3 and with no point guard skills.
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Post#135 » by lambchop » Sat Oct 18, 2025 11:13 am

sashaturiaf wrote:
lambchop wrote:
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We get it. He sucks. But he's not 10 times worse than Bronny, no one is


You're wrong regarding this. Also, was already in the g-league a few years ago averaging 6 ppg on 34/24/67 shooting splits with 3.4 rpg and an efficiency of 6 in 20mpg.

Why use hypothetical comparisons when we can simply use raw numbers and see that Bronny is significantly better than Alex at pretty much everything related to basketball?

Get the hypocrisy out of your system.



Alex is 6"7 with Greek freak genes. That alone makes him better than a 6'1 guy that shoots in the 20%s from 3 and with no point guard skills.


OK so random tall black guy > Bronny. Got it.
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Re: The last Antetokounmpo added to the Bucks payroll 

Post#136 » by og15 » Sat Oct 18, 2025 11:51 am

sashaturiaf wrote:
lambchop wrote:
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We get it. He sucks. But he's not 10 times worse than Bronny, no one is


You're wrong regarding this. Also, was already in the g-league a few years ago averaging 6 ppg on 34/24/67 shooting splits with 3.4 rpg and an efficiency of 6 in 20mpg.

Why use hypothetical comparisons when we can simply use raw numbers and see that Bronny is significantly better than Alex at pretty much everything related to basketball?

Get the hypocrisy out of your system.



Alex is 6"7 with Greek freak genes. That alone makes him better than a 6'1 guy that shoots in the 20%s from 3 and with no point guard skills.

No it does not, that's not how basketball functions, and both of their play in the G-league does not support that conclusion

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