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If you look back at that OG trade it was really BAD.. We got fleeced and i was of the idea we couldn't pay him 40 million but we're paying IQ and RJ more than that and these guys can't hold a candle to OG. There is no team in the NBA that will take these two mediocre players with MANY holes in their game especially with the kind of money they are being paid. We are stuck with them but no worries! We'll be able to get a nice pick in the draft especially this year. Our team lacks spacing and with them in the starting lineup our defense will suffer BIGTIME!!

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mtcan wrote:dTox wrote:
Probably the worst time to make that kind of post considering that RJ was our most efficient starter last night, had no trouble finishing at the basket and hit both free throws that he attempted.
Are people really watching basketball or just **** posting for the engagement?
Is his assessment wrong? Or are we crafting our response to the tweet, based on one preseason game? It's not like we don't have over 6 years of RJ NBA data to feed off of.
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DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:If you look back at that OG trade it was really BAD.. We got fleeced and i was of the idea we couldn't pay him 40 million but we're paying IQ and RJ more than that and these guys can't hold a candle to OG. There is no team in the NBA that will take these two mediocre players with MANY holes in their game especially with the kind of money they are being paid. We are stuck with them but no worries! We'll be able to get a nice pick in the draft especially this year. Our team lacks spacing and with them in the starting lineup our defense will suffer BIGTIME!!
Would you rather have RJ, IQ and Mogbo or nothing? Because he was likely leaving to the Knicks regardless.
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DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:If you look back at that OG trade it was really BAD.. We got fleeced and i was of the idea we couldn't pay him 40 million but we're paying IQ and RJ more than that and these guys can't hold a candle to OG. There is no team in the NBA that will take these two mediocre players with MANY holes in their game especially with the kind of money they are being paid. We are stuck with them but no worries! We'll be able to get a nice pick in the draft especially this year. Our team lacks spacing and with them in the starting lineup our defense will suffer BIGTIME!!
OG and his defense has elevated the freaking Knicks to contenders.
Need to trade them in a consolidating trades like we did for Brandon Ingram.
We keeping finding Battle's and Hepburn's for young bench prospects, then we can trade others.

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dTox wrote:mtcan wrote:dTox wrote:
Probably the worst time to make that kind of post considering that RJ was our most efficient starter last night, had no trouble finishing at the basket and hit both free throws that he attempted.
Are people really watching basketball or just **** posting for the engagement?
Is his assessment wrong? Or are we crafting our response to the tweet, based on one preseason game? It's not like we don't have over 6 years of RJ NBA data to feed off of.
It really isn't as bad as some people are making it out to be.
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DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:If you look back at that OG trade it was really BAD.. We got fleeced and i was of the idea we couldn't pay him 40 million but we're paying IQ and RJ more than that and these guys can't hold a candle to OG. There is no team in the NBA that will take these two mediocre players with MANY holes in their game especially with the kind of money they are being paid. We are stuck with them but no worries! We'll be able to get a nice pick in the draft especially this year. Our team lacks spacing and with them in the starting lineup our defense will suffer BIGTIME!!
OG gets paid a lot of money. That contract alone is nearly untradeable. No team is going to trade assets for a player that is not durable, can’t dribble and can’t pass. He’s a good shooter and an elite defensive player but teams don’t pay guys like that 45 million a year. Look at OG in the playoffs last year. Pacers carved him up and he gave nothing offensively.
We can talk about the Knicks all we want but they went just as far with RJ and IQ than with OG.
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PushDaRock wrote:DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:If you look back at that OG trade it was really BAD.. We got fleeced and i was of the idea we couldn't pay him 40 million but we're paying IQ and RJ more than that and these guys can't hold a candle to OG. There is no team in the NBA that will take these two mediocre players with MANY holes in their game especially with the kind of money they are being paid. We are stuck with them but no worries! We'll be able to get a nice pick in the draft especially this year. Our team lacks spacing and with them in the starting lineup our defense will suffer BIGTIME!!
Would you rather have RJ, IQ and Mogbo or nothing? Because he was likely leaving to the Knicks regardless.
i'll take nothing over those players. At least we don't have bad contracts on the books like we do now.

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DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:PushDaRock wrote:DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:If you look back at that OG trade it was really BAD.. We got fleeced and i was of the idea we couldn't pay him 40 million but we're paying IQ and RJ more than that and these guys can't hold a candle to OG. There is no team in the NBA that will take these two mediocre players with MANY holes in their game especially with the kind of money they are being paid. We are stuck with them but no worries! We'll be able to get a nice pick in the draft especially this year. Our team lacks spacing and with them in the starting lineup our defense will suffer BIGTIME!!
Would you rather have RJ, IQ and Mogbo or nothing? Because he was likely leaving to the Knicks regardless.
i'll take nothing over those players. At least we don't have bad contracts on the books like we do now.
So, you like how this roster looks without them?
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PushDaRock wrote:DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:PushDaRock wrote:
Would you rather have RJ, IQ and Mogbo or nothing? Because he was likely leaving to the Knicks regardless.
i'll take nothing over those players. At least we don't have bad contracts on the books like we do now.
So, you like how this roster looks without them?
yup. Could have signed a free agent like Myles Turner and improve our spacing which is HORRBLE. Poeltl is another bad trade. He's a bad fit on our team where we need spacing for guys like Barnes.

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Los_29 wrote:DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:If you look back at that OG trade it was really BAD.. We got fleeced and i was of the idea we couldn't pay him 40 million but we're paying IQ and RJ more than that and these guys can't hold a candle to OG. There is no team in the NBA that will take these two mediocre players with MANY holes in their game especially with the kind of money they are being paid. We are stuck with them but no worries! We'll be able to get a nice pick in the draft especially this year. Our team lacks spacing and with them in the starting lineup our defense will suffer BIGTIME!!
OG gets paid a lot of money. That contract alone is nearly untradeable. No team is going to trade assets for a player that is not durable, can’t dribble and can’t pass. He’s a good shooter and an elite defensive player but teams don’t pay guys like that 45 million a year. Look at OG in the playoffs last year. Pacers carved him up and he gave nothing offensively.
We can talk about the Knicks all we want but they went just as far with RJ and IQ than with OG.
The Knicks went NOWHERE with IQ and RJ lol We'll be the ones going nowhere. OG has more value around the league at 40 million than RJ and IQ at 60 million dollars! you would do IQ and RJ for OG if you had the chance. Stop being a homer dude...

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DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:PushDaRock wrote:DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:
i'll take nothing over those players. At least we don't have bad contracts on the books like we do now.
So, you like how this roster looks without them?
yup. Could have signed a free agent like Myles Turner and improve our spacing which is HORRBLE. Poeltl is another bad trade. He's a bad fit on our team where we need spacing for guys like Barnes.
lol yes I'm sure our roster looks very appealing to Myles Turner over getting to play with Giannis. Have you looked at our FA signings historically as a franchise? Be realistic with who we can actually get.
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PushDaRock wrote:DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:PushDaRock wrote:
So, you like how this roster looks without them?
yup. Could have signed a free agent like Myles Turner and improve our spacing which is HORRBLE. Poeltl is another bad trade. He's a bad fit on our team where we need spacing for guys like Barnes.
lol yes I'm sure our roster looks very appealing to Myles Turner over getting to play with Giannis. Have you looked at our FA signings historically as a franchise? Be realistic with who we can actually get.
Giannis wants out lol. Myles took the money.. I guess instead we can overpay players like Poeltl, IQ and RJ. Just give up on Free agents. At least we still have our pick this year cause this team sucks.

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DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:PushDaRock wrote:DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:
yup. Could have signed a free agent like Myles Turner and improve our spacing which is HORRBLE. Poeltl is another bad trade. He's a bad fit on our team where we need spacing for guys like Barnes.
lol yes I'm sure our roster looks very appealing to Myles Turner over getting to play with Giannis. Have you looked at our FA signings historically as a franchise? Be realistic with who we can actually get.
Giannis wants out lol. Myles took the money.. I guess instead we can overpay players like Poeltl, IQ and RJ. Just give up on Free agents. At least we still have our pick this year cause this team sucks.
Giannis wants out but he didn't request a trade?
Yes, based on our history it probably is a good idea to give up on Free Agency.
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dTox wrote:mtcan wrote:dTox wrote:
Probably the worst time to make that kind of post considering that RJ was our most efficient starter last night, had no trouble finishing at the basket and hit both free throws that he attempted.
Are people really watching basketball or just **** posting for the engagement?
Is his assessment wrong? Or are we crafting our response to the tweet, based on one preseason game? It's not like we don't have over 6 years of RJ NBA data to feed off of.
RJ is a 70% free throw shooter for his career. So yes, saying "he can't shoot free throws" is a wrong assessment.
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dTox wrote:mtcan wrote:dTox wrote:
Probably the worst time to make that kind of post considering that RJ was our most efficient starter last night, had no trouble finishing at the basket and hit both free throws that he attempted.
Are people really watching basketball or just **** posting for the engagement?
Is his assessment wrong? Or are we crafting our response to the tweet, based on one preseason game? It's not like we don't have over 6 years of RJ NBA data to feed off of.
Use the data to prove he's right.
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DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:Los_29 wrote:DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:If you look back at that OG trade it was really BAD.. We got fleeced and i was of the idea we couldn't pay him 40 million but we're paying IQ and RJ more than that and these guys can't hold a candle to OG. There is no team in the NBA that will take these two mediocre players with MANY holes in their game especially with the kind of money they are being paid. We are stuck with them but no worries! We'll be able to get a nice pick in the draft especially this year. Our team lacks spacing and with them in the starting lineup our defense will suffer BIGTIME!!
OG gets paid a lot of money. That contract alone is nearly untradeable. No team is going to trade assets for a player that is not durable, can’t dribble and can’t pass. He’s a good shooter and an elite defensive player but teams don’t pay guys like that 45 million a year. Look at OG in the playoffs last year. Pacers carved him up and he gave nothing offensively.
We can talk about the Knicks all we want but they went just as far with RJ and IQ than with OG.
The Knicks went NOWHERE with IQ and RJ lol We'll be the ones going nowhere. OG has more value around the league at 40 million than RJ and IQ at 60 million dollars! you would do IQ and RJ for OG if you had the chance. Stop being a homer dude...
Knicks went to the 2nd round with them. It took adding KAT and Bridges for them to get to the ECF. And even then they got humiliated.
This is not being a homer, it’s about being objective. I don’t want to pay RJ 25 million a year. But I also wouldn’t want to be paying OG 45 million a year. Imagine paying OG that kind of money?
We also forget how good IQ can be.
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RJ has shot the ball better from deep and at the rim here as a raptor has he not? I’m confused when I hear he’s a bad finisher. He definitely was in New York.
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Basketball_Jones wrote:RJ has shot the ball better from deep and at the rim here as a raptor has he not? I’m confused when I hear he’s a bad finisher. He definitely was in New York.
Same. I think it’s because his finishing wasn’t great last season. Still better than in New York but not as good as it needed to be. But we have covered many times why that was. He had to the number 1 option way more than he should have last season and he was taking much more contested shots at the rim.
He has been just fine with his shooting and finishing this preseason because he’s been able to be lower in the pecking order. He’s also shot his free throws great this preseason. All the complaining about RJ on offence at this point is just people complaining to complain. If there is something to nitpick that would be his defence. That has been bad as expected, but I never understand people who constantly complain about his offence. And even with his defence being bad, he isn’t remotely our worst defender.
He plays well off ball, he finds ways to score even when there isn’t any plays called for him, he shoots it just fine off catch and shoot, he’s improved his playmaking, he cuts well and he’s our only player who provides rim pressure. If his good free throw shooting keeps up I truly don’t know what more people want from a secondary/tertiary player.
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Psubs wrote:DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:If you look back at that OG trade it was really BAD.. We got fleeced and i was of the idea we couldn't pay him 40 million but we're paying IQ and RJ more than that and these guys can't hold a candle to OG. There is no team in the NBA that will take these two mediocre players with MANY holes in their game especially with the kind of money they are being paid. We are stuck with them but no worries! We'll be able to get a nice pick in the draft especially this year. Our team lacks spacing and with them in the starting lineup our defense will suffer BIGTIME!!
OG and his defense has elevated the freaking Knicks to contenders.
Need to trade them in a consolidating trades like we did for Brandon Ingram.
We keeping finding Battle's and Hepburn's for young bench prospects, then we can trade others.
Ummm...Knicks were already on the rise before OG once they got Brunson. They won 47 games in 2023 and made the 2nd round without OG. Last year they won 51 games despite being in a **** eastern conference and getting Towns. It's not like he elevated them from a 40 win team to a 50 win team...they were already close to a 50 win caliber team before.
The issue with OG has always been his health. Last year was a bit of an outlier as he played 74 games, but before that he was not a reliable player: In 2024 he missed 32 games, in 2023 he missed 15 games, in 2022 he missed 34 games, in 2021 he missed 29 games etc...He's great when on the floor but historically speaking he misses 20-30 games a year.
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Some brutal takes in here by a guy living up to his name, but hey, we'll see how the season plays out
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