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lilfishi22 wrote:Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Talk about poor timing for us to not have any draft picks to even engage with Ainge on a Markannen trade!
He'd be such a good running mate for Booker.
Probably saving Ishbia from himself honestly
lilfishi22 wrote:Saberestar wrote:sunsbg wrote:
Shaq 2.0 then. Only 50lbs remaining.
I'm kidding obviously, but his face looks fat especially when they focus on it at end of video. Hope it's the lighting.
He is on a crazy good condition for a 7'1/7'2 guy who is just 19 years old.
When you say condition, are you talking about how he physically looks or how he plays? Those are two different things. You could look like prime Karl Malone but carrying new muscle takes so much out of your tank, there's a net negative impact (eg Grayson being slower last season having packed on muscle).
Saberestar wrote:lilfishi22 wrote:Saberestar wrote:He is on a crazy good condition for a 7'1/7'2 guy who is just 19 years old.
When you say condition, are you talking about how he physically looks or how he plays? Those are two different things. You could look like prime Karl Malone but carrying new muscle takes so much out of your tank, there's a net negative impact (eg Grayson being slower last season having packed on muscle).
When I said condition I was talking about his basketball condition for a young BIG.
His cardio, his strength, his motor...he is in a very good shape and he has just started his career. I can't believe that he could be considered "slow" watching him play ball.
lilfishi22 wrote:Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Does that means he's going to not play 82 games for the first time in 2 seasons?
Ghost of Kleine wrote:lilfishi22 wrote:Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Does that means he's going to not play 82 games for the first time in 2 seasons?
More concerning thought is the overall longterm durability of our starting backcourt with BOTH of Green and Booker prone to redundant hamstring issues.
And this only might further exacerbate the value surrendered to other teams if they happen to miss extended time during our season. Although I am somewhat optimistic from what they've shown so far in preseason.
Belief is that Suns Center Mark Williams will be ready for opening day. He has played 5-on-5 the last week and will get a few scrimmages in before next week's opener vs Sacramento on Wednesday.
Saberestar wrote:Gambo:Belief is that Suns Center Mark Williams will be ready for opening day. He has played 5-on-5 the last week and will get a few scrimmages in before next week's opener vs Sacramento on Wednesday.
sunsbg wrote:Saberestar wrote:Gambo:Belief is that Suns Center Mark Williams will be ready for opening day. He has played 5-on-5 the last week and will get a few scrimmages in before next week's opener vs Sacramento on Wednesday.
That sounds like Williams is damaged goods, really. It's not just that they want to limit his minutes; it's questionable whether he can even start a season after a full offseason of working on his fitness or whatever he's doing. At least Maluach left hope in last game that we may not need his services in a year or two.
King4Day wrote:sunsbg wrote:Saberestar wrote:Gambo:
That sounds like Williams is damaged goods, really. It's not just that they want to limit his minutes; it's questionable whether he can even start a season after a full offseason of working on his fitness or whatever he's doing. At least Maluach left hope in last game that we may not need his services in a year or two.
Yea this does have me a little concerned. No clear reason why he's been out. This smells like he'll be in and out of the lineup all season.
PHOENIX -- The Phoenix Suns aren't expected to sign center Mark Williams to a rookie scale extension, according to Arizona Sports' John Gambadoro on X:
"I would not expect the rookie extension for Mark Williams. With his injury history just better to play out the season and see how much he plays and how well he plays. He is a good player when healthy. He would be a restricted free agent so Suns have a lot of control - they just may have to pay him more if he crushes it in a contract year."
Gambadoro's report follows that of The Stein Line's Jake Fischer, who also says Phoenix is unlikely to do so:
"Sources say that the Suns would prefer to bank another full season of data on Williams — hopefully marked by some sustained health after Williams was limited to 106 games in his first three NBA seasons — before committing to a new deal for the Duke product."
Williams has flashed his talent as a more than serviceable center in the NBA. However, an array of injuries has prevented the new Suns center to really reach new heights after playing in just 106 games across his first three seasons.
dremill24 wrote:Extending Williams would be malpractice to be honest. Info up til now says he cant play a full season, so unless the extension is for like the minimum lol, you play it out this year and see if he can change it.
Based purely on his skills, McNeeley looks like the lottery pick he was supposed to be. He has good court sense, solid passing, and the ability to make shots at a high level. That should all help him not only carve out a role but also see a lot of playing time. And if he does, Hughes correctly believes that his college numbers (14.5 points, 6.0 rebounds, and 2.3 assists) are achievable at the NBA level.
garrick wrote:dremill24 wrote:Extending Williams would be malpractice to be honest. Info up til now says he cant play a full season, so unless the extension is for like the minimum lol, you play it out this year and see if he can change it.
https://www.si.com/nba/hornets/news/could-liam-mcneeley-end-up-being-the-steal-of-the-2025-nba-draft-classBased purely on his skills, McNeeley looks like the lottery pick he was supposed to be. He has good court sense, solid passing, and the ability to make shots at a high level. That should all help him not only carve out a role but also see a lot of playing time. And if he does, Hughes correctly believes that his college numbers (14.5 points, 6.0 rebounds, and 2.3 assists) are achievable at the NBA level.
Man if Williams never stays healthy this could be yet another trade that we were fleeced as the the #29 player in this years draft that we trade to CHA for Williams is Liam McNeely who is apparently looking like the steal of the draft.
Los Angeles Clippers star Bradley Beal (knee) is to expected to make his preseason debut tonight in exhibition finale against Golden State Warriors, league sources tell me.
Saberestar wrote:
OFFICIAL: The Suns have waived guards Jared Butler and David Duke Jr.
Saberestar wrote:OFFICIAL: The Suns have waived guards Jared Butler and David Duke Jr.
Wow, I seriously thought that Butler did enough to have a roster spot at least until January. I don’t like this decision but now we have an open roster spot.
Don't know, but Dinwiddie should start if we were to get him; with Green coming back soon enough, we know that's not happening.Ghost of Kleine wrote:Saberestar wrote:OFFICIAL: The Suns have waived guards Jared Butler and David Duke Jr.
Wow, I seriously thought that Butler did enough to have a roster spot at least until January. I don’t like this decision but now we have an open roster spot.
I wonder if they did that because Dinwiddie was waived? Or maybe they have their eye on another specific guard option.
SweaterBae wrote:It's the perfect trade when nobody is happy.
SkyBill40 wrote:Don't know, but Dinwiddie should start if we were to get him; with Green coming back soon enough, we know that's not happening.Ghost of Kleine wrote:Saberestar wrote:Wow, I seriously thought that Butler did enough to have a roster spot at least until January. I don’t like this decision but now we have an open roster spot.
I wonder if they did that because Dinwiddie was waived? Or maybe they have their eye on another specific guard option.
Suns doing Suns things... which usually ends up hurting us and not helping.
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