Bronny is a waste of a roster spot

[sikma42]

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Man that guy is insufferable. The only reason people watch him is because he yells louder than anyone and it's funny for about 30 seconds but then it gets super annoying. And he doesn't even know what he's talking about half the time. I feel sorry for his wife, if he has one.

yep, he's bad at reading tape imo. also, i'd feel nasty profiting (or trying to profit) off the kid like this. idk, just seems wrong after a while.

[Biff]

Why do we need a thread about the 15th roster spot on any team? Who cares? 15th man on any team rarely plays and rarely contributes anything.

Because fringe NBA players like the 15th man usually have to bust their ass and earn that spot. That's what this discussion is really about. Those guys might bounce around Latin America or Europe or China before finding a G-League roster spot and then maybe showing an NBA team they have something to offer.

They don't usually stink it up for one year in college, then still get drafted, and then get a guaranteed NBA contract. It's shameful and an insult to those guys who are grinding in other leagues just to get a look from an NBA scout.

This is sports, where your performance matters. It shouldn't be treated like a white collar corporate job where the boss hires his nephew to work the mail room.

People bringing up Giannis and his bros but what does that have to do with Bronny? Classic whataboutism. One doesn't make the other acceptable.

Welcome to America, buddy. The last two owners of my team were the sons of wealthy bankers/mortage execs and got handed their positions. The way this country works a lot of the time. Plenty of teams sign guys at the end of the roster that they think will offer them something other than their basketball skills. Sometimes it's vets with nothing left in the tank but are a good locker room presence. In this case, it's Bronny's name and popularity. It's Los Angeles afterall.

Again, this thread is ridiculous.

[sikma42]

Why do we need a thread about the 15th roster spot on any team? Who cares? 15th man on any team rarely plays and rarely contributes anything.

Because fringe NBA players like the 15th man usually have to bust their ass and earn that spot. That's what this discussion is really about. Those guys might bounce around Latin America or Europe or China before finding a G-League roster spot and then maybe showing an NBA team they have something to offer.

They don't usually stink it up for one year in college, then still get drafted, and then get a guaranteed NBA contract. It's shameful and an insult to those guys who are grinding in other leagues just to get a look from an NBA scout.

This is sports, where your performance matters. It shouldn't be treated like a white collar corporate job where the boss hires his nephew to work the mail room.

People bringing up Giannis and his bros but what does that have to do with Bronny? Classic whataboutism. One doesn't make the other acceptable.

Welcome to America buddy. The last two owners of my team were the sons of wealthy bankers/mortage execs and got handed their positions. The way this country works. Plenty of teams sign guys at the end of the roster that they think will offer them something other than their basketball skills. Sometimes it's vets with nothing left in the tank but are a good locker room presence. In this case, it's Bronny's name and popularity. It's Los Angeles afterall.

Again, this thread is ridiculous.

your post is ridic tbh. why don't we "need "a thread discussing Bronny during preseason? the same reason he is being discussed is the same reason he has a roster spot (his dad). weird just seems like some people want to police threads they dont like.

again, i dont really care that he has a roster spot. my only issue has been how the scouting services and draft people lied about Bronny for years. I have a buddy that worked for the NBA and is big in AAU basketball - he lied straight to my face and told me that only certain people in closed workouts get to see this "other" Bronny that is a "dawg."

idk, its always bothered me that everyone is so scared to get on Klutch/Lebron's bad side that they pretended Bronny was an elite prospect. I've played with Chris Smith (JR's brother) so I get it...but nobody pretended Chris Smith was an elite prospect.

[Biff]

Because fringe NBA players like the 15th man usually have to bust their ass and earn that spot. That's what this discussion is really about. Those guys might bounce around Latin America or Europe or China before finding a G-League roster spot and then maybe showing an NBA team they have something to offer.

They don't usually stink it up for one year in college, then still get drafted, and then get a guaranteed NBA contract. It's shameful and an insult to those guys who are grinding in other leagues just to get a look from an NBA scout.

This is sports, where your performance matters. It shouldn't be treated like a white collar corporate job where the boss hires his nephew to work the mail room.

People bringing up Giannis and his bros but what does that have to do with Bronny? Classic whataboutism. One doesn't make the other acceptable.

Welcome to America buddy. The last two owners of my team were the sons of wealthy bankers/mortage execs and got handed their positions. The way this country works. Plenty of teams sign guys at the end of the roster that they think will offer them something other than their basketball skills. Sometimes it's vets with nothing left in the tank but are a good locker room presence. In this case, it's Bronny's name and popularity. It's Los Angeles afterall.

Again, this thread is ridiculous.

your post is ridic tbh. why don't we "need "a thread discussing Bronny during preseason? the same reason he is being discussed is the same reason he has a roster spot (his dad). weird just seems like some people want to police threads they dont like.

again, i dont really care that he has a roster spot. my only issue has been how the scouting services and draft people lied about Bronny for years. I have a buddy that worked for the NBA and is big in AAU basketball - he lied straight to my face and told me that only certain people in closed workouts get to see this "other" Bronny that is a "dawg."

idk, its always bothered me that everyone is so scared to get on Klutch/Lebron's bad side that they pretended Bronny was an elite prospect. I've played with Chris Smith (JR's brother) so I get it...but nobody pretended Chris Smith was an elite prospect.

Nobody with a brain thought Bronny was an elite prospect so just stop. If your buddy thought that, he is a terrible scout and needs to find a new job. And it's annoying because multiple threads whining about Bronny have been created ever since he was in college. I don't want to see any more of these threads complaining about the 15th man on a team anymore. It's played out as hell.

[sikma42]

Welcome to America buddy. The last two owners of my team were the sons of wealthy bankers/mortage execs and got handed their positions. The way this country works. Plenty of teams sign guys at the end of the roster that they think will offer them something other than their basketball skills. Sometimes it's vets with nothing left in the tank but are a good locker room presence. In this case, it's Bronny's name and popularity. It's Los Angeles afterall.

Again, this thread is ridiculous.

your post is ridic tbh. why don't we "need "a thread discussing Bronny during preseason? the same reason he is being discussed is the same reason he has a roster spot (his dad). weird just seems like some people want to police threads they dont like.

again, i dont really care that he has a roster spot. my only issue has been how the scouting services and draft people lied about Bronny for years. I have a buddy that worked for the NBA and is big in AAU basketball - he lied straight to my face and told me that only certain people in closed workouts get to see this "other" Bronny that is a "dawg."

idk, its always bothered me that everyone is so scared to get on Klutch/Lebron's bad side that they pretended Bronny was an elite prospect. I've played with Chris Smith (JR's brother) so I get it...but nobody pretended Chris Smith was an elite prospect.

Nobody with a brain thought Bronny was an elite prospect so just stop. If your buddy thought that, he is a terrible scout and needs to find a new job. And it's annoying because multiple threads whining about Bronny have been created ever since he was in college. I don't want to see any more of these threads complaining about the 15th man on a team anymore. It's played out as hell.

was Bronny a McDonalds All-American? yes

was he ranked as top 20 in his class? yes

was Bronny considered an NBA prospect in high school? yes

there things 100% true.

My buddy isn't a scout - he just relayed what he heard from scouts and people in the industry. All am saying is that he wasn't good back then and everyone knew it, but decided to just pretend he could play. and that imo is a story.

i dont particularly like piling on the kid. but i do think an examination regarding his rise as a prospect is warranted.

[The4thHorseman]

Because fringe NBA players like the 15th man usually have to bust their ass and earn that spot. That's what this discussion is really about. Those guys might bounce around Latin America or Europe or China before finding a G-League roster spot and then maybe showing an NBA team they have something to offer.

They don't usually stink it up for one year in college, then still get drafted, and then get a guaranteed NBA contract. It's shameful and an insult to those guys who are grinding in other leagues just to get a look from an NBA scout.

This is sports, where your performance matters. It shouldn't be treated like a white collar corporate job where the boss hires his nephew to work the mail room.

People bringing up Giannis and his bros but what does that have to do with Bronny? Classic whataboutism. One doesn't make the other acceptable.

Welcome to America buddy. The last two owners of my team were the sons of wealthy bankers/mortage execs and got handed their positions. The way this country works. Plenty of teams sign guys at the end of the roster that they think will offer them something other than their basketball skills. Sometimes it's vets with nothing left in the tank but are a good locker room presence. In this case, it's Bronny's name and popularity. It's Los Angeles afterall.

Again, this thread is ridiculous.

your post is ridic tbh. why don't we "need "a thread discussing Bronny during preseason? the same reason he is being discussed is the same reason he has a roster spot (his dad). weird just seems like some people want to police threads they dont like.

again, i dont really care that he has a roster spot. my only issue has been how the scouting services and draft people lied about Bronny for years. I have a buddy that worked for the NBA and is big in AAU basketball - he lied straight to my face and told me that only certain people in closed workouts get to see this "other" Bronny that is a "dawg."

idk, its always bothered me that everyone is so scared to get on Klutch/Lebron's bad side that they pretended Bronny was an elite prospect. I've played with Chris Smith (JR's brother) so I get it...but nobody pretended Chris Smith was an elite prospect.

Can you provide any quotes that claimed Bronny was an elite prospect? Did Klutch strong arm all the other teams with threats to not draft the "elite prospect" so LA could draft him 55th?

[sikma42]

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[Roger Murdock]

Bronny isn’t even a real nepo hire. He actively brings attention and money to the LA Lakers. He’s worth more to them than any other 15th man.

He’s basically an influencer. If you don’t care he doesn’t matter but for whatever reason weird people eat this **** up.

[sikma42]

Welcome to America buddy. The last two owners of my team were the sons of wealthy bankers/mortage execs and got handed their positions. The way this country works. Plenty of teams sign guys at the end of the roster that they think will offer them something other than their basketball skills. Sometimes it's vets with nothing left in the tank but are a good locker room presence. In this case, it's Bronny's name and popularity. It's Los Angeles afterall.

Again, this thread is ridiculous.

your post is ridic tbh. why don't we "need "a thread discussing Bronny during preseason? the same reason he is being discussed is the same reason he has a roster spot (his dad). weird just seems like some people want to police threads they dont like.

again, i dont really care that he has a roster spot. my only issue has been how the scouting services and draft people lied about Bronny for years. I have a buddy that worked for the NBA and is big in AAU basketball - he lied straight to my face and told me that only certain people in closed workouts get to see this "other" Bronny that is a "dawg."

idk, its always bothered me that everyone is so scared to get on Klutch/Lebron's bad side that they pretended Bronny was an elite prospect. I've played with Chris Smith (JR's brother) so I get it...but nobody pretended Chris Smith was an elite prospect.

Can you provide any quotes that claimed Bronny was an elite prospect? Did Klutch strong arm all the other teams with threats to not draft the "elite prospect" so LA could draft him 55th?

I'm not even talking about him as just an NBA prospect. I talking about his whole basketball career.

Being top 20 in your class and McDonalds All American is by default an elite basketball prospect. You'd have to find quotes disproving that to make a point.

[NO-KG-AI]

People keep bringing up how it happens in every field, which it’s true, but performance is so much easier to measure in a physical competition. Which is why it is so much more obvious that he’s awful and way below his peers.

[MrBigShot]

People keep bringing up how it happens in every field, which it’s true, but performance is so much easier to measure in a physical competition. Which is why it is so much more obvious that he’s awful and way below his peers.

Very true. A management nepo hire can coast off of the work of people under them and look like they know what they're doing. If you aren't up to par in the NBA, where only 10 players are on the floor are once, it becomes glaringly obvious.

I feel like him not handling the ball/being ball dominant growing up really limited his growth. He has the play style of a big 3&D wing, with the physical tools of a smaller than average PG.

[mattg]

People keep bringing up how it happens in every field, which it’s true, but performance is so much easier to measure in a physical competition. Which is why it is so much more obvious that he’s awful and way below his peers.

Very true. A management nepo hire can coast off of the work of people under them and look like they know what they're doing. If you aren't up to par in the NBA, where only 10 players are on the floor are once, it becomes glaringly obvious.

I feel like him not handling the ball/being ball dominant growing up really limited his growth. He has the play style of a big 3&D wing, with the physical tools of a smaller than average PG.

It's because Bronny HAS NEVER BEEN THAT GOOD. That's what most realgm posters who only follow NBA don't understand. Bronny has been a product of the Klutch/Lebron hype elevating him more than he should have been since MIDDLE SCHOOL. If you look at Bronny's AAU tape and HS tape at Sierra Canyon, he was never close to an actual high major prospect, he was like a low major/maybe mid major caliber player. Yet somehow, he was consistently ranked near the top of his HS class nationally and as a McDonald's AA. He was a literal role player on his own HS team, never even close to the star player, and his 14ppg as senior WITH A SHOT CLOCK was the best he ever managed. He was a ball mover who attacked closeouts and played in transition. If he wasn't Lebron's kid he never would have even had a scholarship to a P5 school, he would have been struggling to compete for minutes at the low major level which lines up with his skill level.

Yeah, he was overhyped to get drafted and all the stuff people whine about now, but the actual really crazy nepotism was what Lebron and Klutch did to even get the kid hyped and recruited to begin with. Almost everyone went to HS with some kid who's dad complained to the coach or donated money so his kid would play more than he deserved, Bronny is that same exact kid who's dad whined and spent money so his kid would get on the court. Except Bron went to the recruiting services

In a lot of ways, the cardiac arrest saved Bron and Bronny from an insane amount of criticism. Because if that never happens, Bronny gets absolutely exposed as a healthy college freshman and there would have been no excuse to hide behind and provide plausible deniability, it would have just been Bronny isn't any good and can't play.

[azcatz11]

Welcome to America buddy. The last two owners of my team were the sons of wealthy bankers/mortage execs and got handed their positions. The way this country works. Plenty of teams sign guys at the end of the roster that they think will offer them something other than their basketball skills. Sometimes it's vets with nothing left in the tank but are a good locker room presence. In this case, it's Bronny's name and popularity. It's Los Angeles afterall.

Again, this thread is ridiculous.

your post is ridic tbh. why don't we "need "a thread discussing Bronny during preseason? the same reason he is being discussed is the same reason he has a roster spot (his dad). weird just seems like some people want to police threads they dont like.

again, i dont really care that he has a roster spot. my only issue has been how the scouting services and draft people lied about Bronny for years. I have a buddy that worked for the NBA and is big in AAU basketball - he lied straight to my face and told me that only certain people in closed workouts get to see this "other" Bronny that is a "dawg."

idk, its always bothered me that everyone is so scared to get on Klutch/Lebron's bad side that they pretended Bronny was an elite prospect. I've played with Chris Smith (JR's brother) so I get it...but nobody pretended Chris Smith was an elite prospect.

Can you provide any quotes that claimed Bronny was an elite prospect? Did Klutch strong arm all the other teams with threats to not draft the "elite prospect" so LA could draft him 55th?

Bronny looked like a top 10 player in the country during Peach Jam. That is where the hype built. He put up 30 one game and people fell in love with him as a prospect after that tournament.

[michaelm]

The issue is not about wasting a roster spot (and i agree he isn't wasting it anyway), the issue is why you'd choose to put your son in such a horrific situation where everybody will be saying he doesn't belong in the NBA. What kind of father does this? And just after Bronny's heart problem too...
This is the complete opposite of what a good father does, as Bronny is being fed to the wolves, and with no way to save himself.

Lebron very well might have goat IQ on the court. Off the court, i’d say he’s well below average. He’s a well meaning fool for putting his son in this situation. He really thought he was doing him a favor by forcing him to pros when he’s clearly not ready.

This. Keeping LeBron happy and having them both on the team being a good narrative for the franchise and apparently money making for them was reason enough to hire him, and the Lakers are a privately owned business who can make whatever decisions they feel like making anyway.

I presume there is no ongoing concern with the heart thing. If so the only negative is the extra scrutiny he is under, but he is doubtless accustomed to attention in general for being LeBron’s son anyway which he would basically have encountered his whole life. I am no great fan of LeBron ball while not denying how effective/great he has been, but this is little different than another current example at the Bucks about which no fuss is being made as has been said. So the being LeBron’s son thing goes both ways, no one would care who was 15th man for the Lakers If he wasn’t LeBron’s son either.

[infinite11285]

Who cares about the 15th roster spot?

Alex Antetokounmpo was just signed to an NBA contract.

[The4thHorseman]

your post is ridic tbh. why don't we "need "a thread discussing Bronny during preseason? the same reason he is being discussed is the same reason he has a roster spot (his dad). weird just seems like some people want to police threads they dont like.

again, i dont really care that he has a roster spot. my only issue has been how the scouting services and draft people lied about Bronny for years. I have a buddy that worked for the NBA and is big in AAU basketball - he lied straight to my face and told me that only certain people in closed workouts get to see this "other" Bronny that is a "dawg."

idk, its always bothered me that everyone is so scared to get on Klutch/Lebron's bad side that they pretended Bronny was an elite prospect. I've played with Chris Smith (JR's brother) so I get it...but nobody pretended Chris Smith was an elite prospect.

Can you provide any quotes that claimed Bronny was an elite prospect? Did Klutch strong arm all the other teams with threats to not draft the "elite prospect" so LA could draft him 55th?

I'm not even talking about him as just an NBA prospect. I talking about his whole basketball career.

Being top 20 in your class and McDonalds All American is by default an elite basketball prospect. You'd have to find quotes disproving that to make a point.

Anyone with eyes who saw him play at USC would see it was quite blatant he wasn't an elite prospect who was ready to play 32mins a game. Has there ever been an "elite prospect" who fell to the 55th pick or lower?

It's the old case of watch for yourself instead of taking the opinions of others as fact.

[sikma42]

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It's the old case of watch for yourself instead of taking the opinions of others as fact.

I’ve been on here saying he wasn’t very talented for a long time. Back to his hs days.

But he was considered an elite hs prospect. He barely played in college due to a heart issue. It all played a factor.


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[zimpy27]

Bronny isn’t even a real nepo hire. He actively brings attention and money to the LA Lakers. He’s worth more to them than any other 15th man.

He’s basically an influencer. If you don’t care he doesn’t matter but for whatever reason weird people eat this **** up.

Absolutely.

I saw he has already brought in close to $100m from jersey sales alone to Lakers.

[JellosJigglin]

Bronny isn’t even a real nepo hire. He actively brings attention and money to the LA Lakers. He’s worth more to them than any other 15th man.

He’s basically an influencer. If you don’t care he doesn’t matter but for whatever reason weird people eat this **** up.

Absolutely.

I saw he has already brought in close to $100m from jersey sales alone to Lakers.

Half that hype is from the real fans who just meme on him and the other half are from people who don't realize he's being meme'd on and actually think the hype is because he's an actual "prospect" lol. It's like when people laugh at a joke without realizing they are the butt of the joke.

[Domejandro]

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Man that guy is insufferable. The only reason people watch him is because he yells louder than anyone and it's funny for about 30 seconds but then it gets super annoying. And he doesn't even know what he's talking about half the time. I feel sorry for his wife, if he has one.

yep, he's bad at reading tape imo. also, i'd feel nasty profiting (or trying to profit) off the kid like this. idk, just seems wrong after a while.

Reaffirming that (at least from the couple videos I have seen), I have come away pretty astonished at how little he understands about basketball, despite his demeanor. Genuinely maddening hearing someone scream and condescend, but then blame the wrong defender because he doesn't have the baseline knowledge of what defensive scheme the team is running.