The 2025 Wolves Off Season

[KGdaBom]

Any interest?

The Charlotte Hornets have waived veteran guard Spencer Dinwiddie, the team announced Thursday.

Dinwiddie signed a one-year, $3.6 million deal with the Hornets in early July amid free agency, but Charlotte had to release a guaranteed salary ahead of next week's regular-season opener and chose his in an effort to get to the maximum of 15 standard contracts on the current roster.

Dinwiddie, who appeared in just two preseason games with Charlotte, averaged 14.3 points and 6.2 assists in 30 games as a starter for the Dallas Mavericks last season. He averaged 11 points, 4.4 assists and 2.6 rebounds in 27 minutes overall in 79 appearances for the Mavericks in 2024-25.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/46614780/sources-hornets-waiving-veteran-guard-spencer-dinwiddie

Some. If he can replace Bones.

[shangrila]

I don't think that 49.5 is an unfair baseline. Only three teams won more than 52 games last season.

Yeah, I've got that as pretty spot on. Like 47-52 wins is a reasonable expectation all things considered.

[shangrila]

Any interest?

The Charlotte Hornets have waived veteran guard Spencer Dinwiddie, the team announced Thursday.

Dinwiddie signed a one-year, $3.6 million deal with the Hornets in early July amid free agency, but Charlotte had to release a guaranteed salary ahead of next week's regular-season opener and chose his in an effort to get to the maximum of 15 standard contracts on the current roster.

Dinwiddie, who appeared in just two preseason games with Charlotte, averaged 14.3 points and 6.2 assists in 30 games as a starter for the Dallas Mavericks last season. He averaged 11 points, 4.4 assists and 2.6 rebounds in 27 minutes overall in 79 appearances for the Mavericks in 2024-25.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/46614780/sources-hornets-waiving-veteran-guard-spencer-dinwiddie

If the Hornets think you're cooked then I have no interest

[shangrila]

ESPN is projecting the Wolves to win 44 games. Last year they had us at 43. Screw them. We will win minimum 50 possibly 60.

8. Minnesota Timberwolves
Projected wins: 43.7
ESPN BET over/under total: 49.5

Why they project to be worse than their total: The Timberwolves were one of my model's big misses a season ago, winning 49 games while projected for 42.7. In part, Minnesota benefited from favorable health on the perimeter. Nickeil Alexander-Walker's departure means one of the Wolves' young guards will have to step into a rotation role, and Terrence Shannon Jr. -- the most likely contender ahead of the season -- projects poorly. But don't blame Minnesota fans for thinking their team is underrated after back-to-back trips to the conference finals.

They say "health" is a reason for being wrong last year, but really I think it's noteworthy that this team has built up a culture of playing through nicks and bruises when other teams force many of their players to take rest days when they otherwise are healthy enough to play.

Anthony Edwards has played 381 of 400 career games (95%).
Naz Reid has played 390 of 414 games since inserted in the rotation at 2020 trade deadline (94%).
Jaden McDaniels has played 341 of 369 games since the coaching change (92%).

That's 75 to 78 games played each year for three of our core players, so yeah I don't think missing on "health" is a valid excuse.

From memory, I don't think we've had any major health issues for a while and (without looking it up) are one of the healthier teams in recent history.

I always assumed that was because of the close association the team had with the Mayo Clinic, although according to Pelton it's because we've flipped a coin a thousand times and it's always come up heads.

[BlacJacMac]

Any interest?

The Charlotte Hornets have waived veteran guard Spencer Dinwiddie, the team announced Thursday.

Dinwiddie signed a one-year, $3.6 million deal with the Hornets in early July amid free agency, but Charlotte had to release a guaranteed salary ahead of next week's regular-season opener and chose his in an effort to get to the maximum of 15 standard contracts on the current roster.

Dinwiddie, who appeared in just two preseason games with Charlotte, averaged 14.3 points and 6.2 assists in 30 games as a starter for the Dallas Mavericks last season. He averaged 11 points, 4.4 assists and 2.6 rebounds in 27 minutes overall in 79 appearances for the Mavericks in 2024-25.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/46614780/sources-hornets-waiving-veteran-guard-spencer-dinwiddie

If the Hornets think you're cooked then I have no interest

I'd think that doing the opposite of what the Hornets do would more likely lead to success...

[Loaf_of_bread]

Dinwiddie is a bit of a headcase. Id take him on talent, but VERY EASY pass imo.

[Klomp]

Dinwiddie is a bit of a headcase. Id take him on talent, but VERY EASY pass imo.

It's worth noting that Prigioni worked with him in Brooklyn. If we don't show interest, I think it's telling.

[BlacJacMac]

Dinwiddie is a bit of a headcase. Id take him on talent, but VERY EASY pass imo.

It's worth noting that Prigioni worked with him in Brooklyn. If we don't show interest, I think it's telling.

My guess is he goes to Houston where they have a gaping hole in the roster at PG.

Or maybe back to Dallas.

[Loaf_of_bread]

Dinwiddie is a bit of a headcase. Id take him on talent, but VERY EASY pass imo.

It's worth noting that Prigioni worked with him in Brooklyn. If we don't show interest, I think it's telling.

Prigioni holds an NBA record, which most likely will stand for a LONG time. He was a rookie at age 35.

[TimberKat]

Yuki Kawamura was waived by the Bulls. I am wondering if he could be the emergency 3rd PG? You know he definitely is going to pass the ball

[winforlose]

General question, Seth Curry or Johnny Juzang? Both on minimums and both 10th man or less? I am leaning towards Seth, but I understand the JJ argument as well. Thoughts?

[KGdaBom]

General question, Seth Curry or Johnny Juzang? Both on minimums and both 10th man or less? I am leaning towards Seth, but I understand the JJ argument as well. Thoughts?

Leonard Miller.

[winforlose]

General question, Seth Curry or Johnny Juzang? Both on minimums and both 10th man or less? I am leaning towards Seth, but I understand the JJ argument as well. Thoughts?

Leonard Miller.

Already on team. Miller is a big, and the 3rd string backup to both Naz and Joan. He is not a sniper role like JJ or Seth would be. I am asking would you rather have the proven but much older vet, or the young but inconsistent player with room to grow. I lean toward Seth because his shot is more proven. But I fear his age will diminish his returns. So I am torn.

[KGdaBom]

General question, Seth Curry or Johnny Juzang? Both on minimums and both 10th man or less? I am leaning towards Seth, but I understand the JJ argument as well. Thoughts?

Leonard Miller.

Already on team. Miller is a big, and the 3rd string backup to both Naz and Joan. He is not a sniper role like JJ or Seth would be. I am asking would you rather have the proven but much older vet, or the young but inconsistent player with room to grow. I lean toward Seth because his shot is more proven. But I fear his age will diminish his returns. So I am torn.

Isn't Johnny Juzang already on the team? Anyway my point is I'd like to see Miller get minutes before either of those guys.

[winforlose]

Leonard Miller.

Already on team. Miller is a big, and the 3rd string backup to both Naz and Joan. He is not a sniper role like JJ or Seth would be. I am asking would you rather have the proven but much older vet, or the young but inconsistent player with room to grow. I lean toward Seth because his shot is more proven. But I fear his age will diminish his returns. So I am torn.

Isn't Johnny Juzang already on the team? Anyway my point is I'd like to see Miller get minutes before either of those guys.

No guaranteed money and a real chance of not making the team. Also Miller will not play SG or SF. They have no connection. It is a function of who is available, not who is more deserving.

[winforlose]

I just found out Cam Payne is available. We might want to pick him up as well.

[KGdaBom]

I just found out Cam Payne is available. We might want to pick him up as well.

He used to be adequate. Is he still adequate?

[winforlose]

I just found out Cam Payne is available. We might want to pick him up as well.

He used to be adequate. Is he still adequate?

I don’t know why not.

[younggunsmn]

I just found out Cam Payne is available. We might want to pick him up as well.

He used to be adequate. Is he still adequate?

I don’t know why not.

I mean he's not a great defender either, but he's decent as an actual PG and can run a team and hit an open shot.
He killed us last year with the Knicks.
He would be a guy who could duplicate a lot of what Mike does offensively without a ton of dropoff.

Same with Dinwiddie, who is less of a PG but has more of a knack for scoring.

One thing we have working against us though is players don't want to come here to sit behind an inferior player just because we drafted him 8th overall a year ago.

[winforlose]

He used to be adequate. Is he still adequate?

I don’t know why not.

I mean he's not a great defender either, but he's decent as an actual PG and can run a team and hit an open shot.
He killed us last year with the Knicks.
He would be a guy who could duplicate a lot of what Mike does offensively without a ton of dropoff.

Same with Dinwiddie, who is less of a PG but has more of a knack for scoring.

One thing we have working against us though is players don't want to come here to sit behind an inferior player just because we drafted him 8th overall a year ago.

Agree. We only get Cam if Rob is going to Iowa or if no other team will offer Cam more minutes.