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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1261 » by JayTWill » Sat Oct 18, 2025 5:08 am

I was never that high on Precious but it's wild to see a guy that the Knicks were once playing 40+ minutes per game possibly struggling to find a spot in the league less than 2 years later.
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Post#1262 » by G_K_F » Sat Oct 18, 2025 5:24 am

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Post#1263 » by Richard4444 » Sat Oct 18, 2025 6:02 am

I would not be surprised if we waive Shamet, too. Because if we wait 14 days further to sign our 14th player, the cap hit is lower and we cam sign our 15th player sooner.
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Post#1264 » by Enzo954 » Sat Oct 18, 2025 3:10 pm

What's with all the Shamet hate around here? The guy balled out last night and played high level defense. If I recall, he also came into a playoff game when Thibs got desperate and he played his ass off to get us back into the game. Shamet had the highest plus/minus in the Pacers series at +21. The guy gets a 1 year $3 mil deal and you expect him to be at an elite level. smh
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Post#1265 » by JayTWill » Sat Oct 18, 2025 3:48 pm

Richard4444 wrote:I would not be surprised if we waive Shamet, too. Because if we wait 14 days further to sign our 14th player, the cap hit is lower and we cam sign our 15th player sooner.


Yeah, I could see them doing that once again this year although i'm unsure what value it provides. Over the last couple of seasons they have just used the last roster spots on guys like PJ Tucker, Daquan Jeffries and Mamadi Diakite. They were willing to take those fake 2 year deals that could potentially be used in a trade. Maybe they will look for someone that could possibly make more of an on court impact this year.
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Post#1266 » by Richard4444 » Sat Oct 18, 2025 4:05 pm

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Richard4444 wrote:I would not be surprised if we waive Shamet, too. Because if we wait 14 days further to sign our 14th player, the cap hit is lower and we cam sign our 15th player sooner.


Yeah, I could see them doing that once again this year although i'm unsure what value it provides. Over the last couple of seasons they have just used the last roster spots on guys like PJ Tucker, Daquan Jeffries and Mamadi Diakite. They were willing to take those fake 2 year deals that could potentially be used in a trade. Maybe they will look for someone that could possibly make more of an on court impact this year.


Other times. Last season, we already had no apron space. We only got our 15th player in the very end of the regular season.
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Post#1267 » by JayTWill » Sat Oct 18, 2025 4:31 pm

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Richard4444 wrote:I would not be surprised if we waive Shamet, too. Because if we wait 14 days further to sign our 14th player, the cap hit is lower and we cam sign our 15th player sooner.


Yeah, I could see them doing that once again this year although i'm unsure what value it provides. Over the last couple of seasons they have just used the last roster spots on guys like PJ Tucker, Daquan Jeffries and Mamadi Diakite. They were willing to take those fake 2 year deals that could potentially be used in a trade. Maybe they will look for someone that could possibly make more of an on court impact this year.


Other times. Last season, we already had no apron space. We only got our 15th player in the very end of the regular season.


I assume they will be in a similar position this year unless other moves are made. If they signed Shamet and Diawara right now it looks like they might be around $150,000 under the apron. If they wait a couple weeks it may be able to get them around $400,000~500,000 under the apron but my math may be off.
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Post#1268 » by Richard4444 » Sat Oct 18, 2025 4:54 pm

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Yeah, I could see them doing that once again this year although i'm unsure what value it provides. Over the last couple of seasons they have just used the last roster spots on guys like PJ Tucker, Daquan Jeffries and Mamadi Diakite. They were willing to take those fake 2 year deals that could potentially be used in a trade. Maybe they will look for someone that could possibly make more of an on court impact this year.


Other times. Last season, we already had no apron space. We only got our 15th player in the very end of the regular season.


I assume they will be in a similar position this year unless other moves are made. If they signed Shamet and Diawara right now it looks like they might be around $150,000 under the apron. If they wait a couple weeks it may be able to get them around $400,000~500,000 under the apron but my math may be off.


I think we would save around 180k if we delay Shamet signing and 100k if we delay Dewara signing.
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Post#1269 » by RHODEY » Sat Oct 18, 2025 7:49 pm

Enzo954 wrote:What's with all the Shamet hate around here? The guy balled out last night and played high level defense. If I recall, he also came into a playoff game when Thibs got desperate and he played his ass off to get us back into the game. Shamet had the highest plus/minus in the Pacers series at +21. The guy gets a 1 year $3 mil deal and you expect him to be at an elite level. smh

Yeah sometimes I wonder how much people actually watch the games. The guy that "usually sucks" is a career 39% 3pt shooter and has way more all around game than Matthews..and I love Matthews...

It seems like some are judging Shamet's performance in a year where he had to come back from a career threatening shoulder injury while also playing for a new team- with minimal burn....but then conveniently omit his late season and playoffs performance. Now you could make the argument that Shamet is redundant (I actually did) but for your ~12th guy off the bench I don't think he sucks.
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Post#1270 » by G_K_F » Sat Oct 18, 2025 9:23 pm

Landry Shamet is extremely inconsistent and not a knock down shooter. This is why he’s a journeyman.

If we’re going to have a journeyman at least let him be a guy who is going to rain threes like Novak. Not a dude who can get hot once every 2 weeks.

Acting perplexed why we are upset about the lack of shooting off the bench makes no sense to me. I would still say we need better shooters off the bench.
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Post#1271 » by Enzo954 » Sat Oct 18, 2025 9:57 pm

G_K_F wrote:Landry Shamet is extremely inconsistent and not a knock down shooter. This is why he’s a journeyman.

If we’re going to have a journeyman at least let him be a guy who is going to rain threes like Novak. Not a dude who can get hot once every 2 weeks.

Acting perplexed why we are upset about the lack of shooting off the bench makes no sense to me. I would still say we need better shooters off the bench.


He shot 39.7% from 3 last season for us. He's getting paid 3 mil a year, came through clutch for us in the playoffs, plays very good defense and has a good all-around game. Total professional and a good locker room guy/teammate. Go actually watch some games instead of spitting nonsense lies in here.
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Post#1272 » by G_K_F » Sat Oct 18, 2025 10:44 pm

Enzo954 wrote:
G_K_F wrote:Landry Shamet is extremely inconsistent and not a knock down shooter. This is why he’s a journeyman.

If we’re going to have a journeyman at least let him be a guy who is going to rain threes like Novak. Not a dude who can get hot once every 2 weeks.

Acting perplexed why we are upset about the lack of shooting off the bench makes no sense to me. I would still say we need better shooters off the bench.


He shot 39.7% from 3 last season for us. He's getting paid 3 mil a year, came through clutch for us in the playoffs, plays very good defense and has a good all-around game. Total professional and a good locker room guy/teammate. Go actually watch some games instead of spitting nonsense lies in here.


If I had no idea who Landry Shamet was I would think he’s some can’t-miss rotation player judging by your description of him and your unbridled passion to defend a journeyman fringe NBA player. Good for you and your love of Landry Shamet. Send him a DM. He can get you a signed jersey.
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Post#1273 » by nykballa2k4 » Sat Oct 18, 2025 10:52 pm

G_K_F wrote:
Enzo954 wrote:
G_K_F wrote:Landry Shamet is extremely inconsistent and not a knock down shooter. This is why he’s a journeyman.

If we’re going to have a journeyman at least let him be a guy who is going to rain threes like Novak. Not a dude who can get hot once every 2 weeks.

Acting perplexed why we are upset about the lack of shooting off the bench makes no sense to me. I would still say we need better shooters off the bench.


He shot 39.7% from 3 last season for us. He's getting paid 3 mil a year, came through clutch for us in the playoffs, plays very good defense and has a good all-around game. Total professional and a good locker room guy/teammate. Go actually watch some games instead of spitting nonsense lies in here.


If I had no idea who Landry Shamet was I would think he’s some can’t-miss rotation player judging by your description of him and your unbridled passion to defend a journeyman fringe NBA player. Good for you and your love of Landry Shamet. Send him a DM. He can get you a signed jersey.


Shamet has also proven he is willing to accept an end of bench role so that's a plus.

He is a capable 3rd stringer.
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Re: Trades and Transactions 2025 V 

Post#1274 » by Enzo954 » Sat Oct 18, 2025 11:29 pm

G_K_F wrote:
Enzo954 wrote:
G_K_F wrote:Landry Shamet is extremely inconsistent and not a knock down shooter. This is why he’s a journeyman.

If we’re going to have a journeyman at least let him be a guy who is going to rain threes like Novak. Not a dude who can get hot once every 2 weeks.

Acting perplexed why we are upset about the lack of shooting off the bench makes no sense to me. I would still say we need better shooters off the bench.


He shot 39.7% from 3 last season for us. He's getting paid 3 mil a year, came through clutch for us in the playoffs, plays very good defense and has a good all-around game. Total professional and a good locker room guy/teammate. Go actually watch some games instead of spitting nonsense lies in here.


If I had no idea who Landry Shamet was I would think he’s some can’t-miss rotation player judging by your description of him and your unbridled passion to defend a journeyman fringe NBA player. Good for you and your love of Landry Shamet. Send him a DM. He can get you a signed jersey.


So who are you gonna sign that's available at 3 mil that has performed as well as Shamet has for our squad wise ass? Go ahead and put some weight behind your bitching and moaning. Thibs barely utilized him last year and he still performed extremely well when his number was called. Go ahead....tell us. You're up.
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Post#1275 » by HarthorneWingo » Sat Oct 18, 2025 11:35 pm

Richard4444 wrote:
JayTWill wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
Other times. Last season, we already had no apron space. We only got our 15th player in the very end of the regular season.


I assume they will be in a similar position this year unless other moves are made. If they signed Shamet and Diawara right now it looks like they might be around $150,000 under the apron. If they wait a couple weeks it may be able to get them around $400,000~500,000 under the apron but my math may be off.


I think we would save around 180k if we delay Shamet signing and 100k if we delay Dewara signing.

Seems like penny counting
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Post#1276 » by Richard4444 » Sat Oct 18, 2025 11:55 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
JayTWill wrote:
I assume they will be in a similar position this year unless other moves are made. If they signed Shamet and Diawara right now it looks like they might be around $150,000 under the apron. If they wait a couple weeks it may be able to get them around $400,000~500,000 under the apron but my math may be off.


I think we would save around 180k if we delay Shamet signing and 100k if we delay Dewara signing.

Seems like penny counting


Exactly. We need every penny we can find. Aller and Rose should be in the Time Square or in the Central Park hunting for pennies on the ground right now.
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Post#1277 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Sun Oct 19, 2025 12:06 am

Richard4444 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
I think we would save around 180k if we delay Shamet signing and 100k if we delay Dewara signing.

Seems like penny counting


Exactly. We need every penny we can find. Aller and Rose should be in the Time Square or in the Central Park hunting for pennies on the ground right now.

Absolutely correct. 180k is approximately 13 days of what a vet-min player's salary counts against the apron. Not having Shamet for the first two weeks of the season means the Knicks can have a 15th player on a vet-min contract for two weeks at the end of the season *and* for the playoffs. It's a no-brainer move.
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Post#1278 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Oct 19, 2025 12:32 am

Richard4444 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
I think we would save around 180k if we delay Shamet signing and 100k if we delay Dewara signing.

Seems like penny counting


Exactly. We need every penny we can find. Aller and Rose should be in the Time Square or in the Central Park hunting for pennies on the ground right now.


You’ll have to excuse me, I’ve been in the can for the last 20 years and I didn’t rat on nobody.

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Post#1279 » by Richard4444 » Sun Oct 19, 2025 12:53 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Seems like penny counting


Exactly. We need every penny we can find. Aller and Rose should be in the Time Square or in the Central Park hunting for pennies on the ground right now.


You’ll have to excuse me, I’ve been in the can for the last 20 years and I didn’t rat on nobody.

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We may need reinforcements for the playoffs. We may need a replacement for a starter. Or even a backup. We may need more defensive center, playmaker, or another big wing.
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Post#1280 » by RHODEY » Sun Oct 19, 2025 1:51 am

G_K_F wrote:
Enzo954 wrote:
G_K_F wrote:Landry Shamet is extremely inconsistent and not a knock down shooter. This is why he’s a journeyman.

If we’re going to have a journeyman at least let him be a guy who is going to rain threes like Novak. Not a dude who can get hot once every 2 weeks.

Acting perplexed why we are upset about the lack of shooting off the bench makes no sense to me. I would still say we need better shooters off the bench.


He shot 39.7% from 3 last season for us. He's getting paid 3 mil a year, came through clutch for us in the playoffs, plays very good defense and has a good all-around game. Total professional and a good locker room guy/teammate. Go actually watch some games instead of spitting nonsense lies in here.


If I had no idea who Landry Shamet was I would think he’s some can’t-miss rotation player judging by your description of him and your unbridled passion to defend a journeyman fringe NBA player. Good for you and your love of Landry Shamet. Send him a DM. He can get you a signed jersey.


Context is important. Shamet's game was brought up in comparison to Garrison Mathews...Not Michael Jordan. And he's very solid piece for someone that far down in the rotation. That said even a journeyman can make a huge impact, if he steps up at the right time in the right series. Everyone has a part to play.

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