Who wants Rui Hachimura?

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Re: Who wants Rui Hachimura? 

Post#61 » by tcheco » Thu Oct 16, 2025 7:19 pm

Kalamazoo317 wrote:
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Kalamazoo317 wrote:A lotta Pistons fans would probably hate it, but I'd do Jaden Ivey and Bobbi Klintman for Rui.


I'm not even a Pistons fan and I can't believe a Pistons fan proposed this :o


I'd rather sell high on Ivey now than get a Collin Sexton like return on him down the road.


Honest question, you think an expiring Rui is selling high on Ivey?

I think PIstons whould aim higher a bit
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Re: Who wants Rui Hachimura? 

Post#62 » by doogie_hauser » Fri Oct 17, 2025 11:55 am

He is a true lemon.
Don't think most decent teams will want him, especially for Poo-Linka's unreasonable demands.

He is rubbish overall, the Lakers won't admit this publicly but I bet they are desperate to get rid of him.
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Re: Who wants Rui Hachimura? 

Post#63 » by SA37 » Fri Oct 17, 2025 12:11 pm

Rui is a solid player, but on a good team he probably needs a role like Obi Toppin's in Indiana. It's hard to see any team giving up much value for Hachimura.
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Re: Who wants Rui Hachimura? 

Post#64 » by tcheco » Fri Oct 17, 2025 12:15 pm

SA37 wrote:Rui is a solid player, but on a good team he probably needs a role like Obi Toppin's in Indiana. It's hard to see any team giving up much value for Hachimura.

I mean, he is limited in some things, but he can shoot the 3 better than Toppin, an is a bit bigger, I think he can be the 5th best player in a contending team. Toppin is good, but can improve his shooting a bit
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Re: Who wants Rui Hachimura? 

Post#65 » by SA37 » Fri Oct 17, 2025 4:49 pm

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SA37 wrote:Rui is a solid player, but on a good team he probably needs a role like Obi Toppin's in Indiana. It's hard to see any team giving up much value for Hachimura.

I mean, he is limited in some things, but he can shoot the 3 better than Toppin, an is a bit bigger, I think he can be the 5th best player in a contending team. Toppin is good, but can improve his shooting a bit


To the bolded, yes, I think Rui could be what Harrison Barnes was for the Warriors 10 years ago. I think the big issue for the Lakers is the roster may not all fit together, and Rui and Knecht on their own probably don't get the Lakers an upgrade.

I think the Lakers can live with a Vincent/Smart tandem at guard. Then you have Reaves, LeBron, and Luka getting the bulk of the minutes. That leaves Rui, Vando, Ayton, Hayes and Kleber vying for the big minutes at the 5.

If the Lakers are looking to upgrade, Rui has the most trade value. I don't think Rui on his own gets the Lakers a big upgrade. The Lakers could add in Knecht, but who does that get them? And this is what I meant with my comparison to Toppin: he's useful, but if Indiana put Toppin on the block, how much value would he actually bring back?
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Re: Who wants Rui Hachimura? 

Post#66 » by tcheco » Fri Oct 17, 2025 5:03 pm

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SA37 wrote:Rui is a solid player, but on a good team he probably needs a role like Obi Toppin's in Indiana. It's hard to see any team giving up much value for Hachimura.

I mean, he is limited in some things, but he can shoot the 3 better than Toppin, an is a bit bigger, I think he can be the 5th best player in a contending team. Toppin is good, but can improve his shooting a bit


To the bolded, yes, I think Rui could be what Harrison Barnes was for the Warriors 10 years ago. I think the big issue for the Lakers is the roster may not all fit together, and Rui and Knecht on their own probably don't get the Lakers an upgrade.

I think the Lakers can live with a Vincent/Smart tandem at guard. Then you have Reaves, LeBron, and Luka getting the bulk of the minutes. That leaves Rui, Vando, Ayton, Hayes and Kleber vying for the big minutes at the 5.

If the Lakers are looking to upgrade, Rui has the most trade value. I don't think Rui on his own gets the Lakers a big upgrade. The Lakers could add in Knecht, but who does that get them? And this is what I meant with my comparison to Toppin: he's useful, but if Indiana put Toppin on the block, how much value would he actually bring back?


oh, we are on the same page, specially with Rui being expiring, little to no value can be had. I would argue that they could offer Rui and Knecht for a player that contributes more in a different place. they could land Monk with Rui, if they feel like they need someone better to handle the ball off the bench. If they need scoring Rui + Knecth probably gets you Derozan? As much as RealGM hates him, he will provide scoring, but the team will lack size.

It's not clear what the Lakers will need, they have depth, consolidating would be good, but if they won't add a pick to deals, this limits their moves
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Re: Who wants Rui Hachimura? 

Post#67 » by Kalamazoo317 » Fri Oct 17, 2025 5:59 pm

tcheco wrote:
Kalamazoo317 wrote:
tcheco wrote:
I'm not even a Pistons fan and I can't believe a Pistons fan proposed this :o


I'd rather sell high on Ivey now than get a Collin Sexton like return on him down the road.


Honest question, you think an expiring Rui is selling high on Ivey?

I think PIstons whould aim higher a bit


Maybe it's not that high in terms of being a pure asset grab, but once you factor in fit and availability, it's about right. He'll get significantly harder to move after a big extension.
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Re: Who wants Rui Hachimura? 

Post#68 » by jayjaysee » Fri Oct 17, 2025 6:47 pm

Sure it’s been posted and I really thought I was done with Monk to Dallas ideas but..

Monk to Dallas
Rui to Sac
Gafford to LA

Likely need a fourth team and one of the original three teams pay to dump Hardy.. Maybe Dallas and LAL both throw a second in and that’s enough?

Dallas gives Cisse the last roster spot since preseason stats/blocks/rebounds will definitely convey..

Still don’t see Nico/LA working together again but was playing with Rui to Sac and Dallas still seems the best destination for Monk..

Fake idea land id use Monk as the sixth man, despite preferring him over anything Dallas has without Kyrie. Then when Kyrie does get back, Monk’s role is already set and DLO drops below him..
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Re: Who wants Rui Hachimura? 

Post#69 » by SlimShady83 » Fri Oct 17, 2025 6:49 pm

jayjaysee wrote:Sure it’s been posted and I really thought I was done with Monk to Dallas ideas but..

Monk to Dallas
Rui to Sac
Gafford to LA


Done deal for Lakers IMO, Would Dallas want Monk though? could get some valuable scoring off the bench, couple SRP's might be need for Dallas to except? maybe?
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Re: Who wants Rui Hachimura? 

Post#70 » by jayjaysee » Fri Oct 17, 2025 6:53 pm

SlimShady83 wrote:
jayjaysee wrote:Sure it’s been posted and I really thought I was done with Monk to Dallas ideas but..

Monk to Dallas
Rui to Sac
Gafford to LA


Done deal for Lakers IMO, Would Dallas want Monk though? could get some valuable scoring off the bench


I don’t think Dallas actually does that deal in real life.

But I’d like adding Monk and using him as a sixth man this season (he’s better than any healthy guard Dallas has but just fit wise would use him as a sixth man this season)
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Re: Who wants Rui Hachimura? 

Post#71 » by SA37 » Sat Oct 18, 2025 1:15 am

tcheco wrote:
SA37 wrote:
tcheco wrote:I mean, he is limited in some things, but he can shoot the 3 better than Toppin, an is a bit bigger, I think he can be the 5th best player in a contending team. Toppin is good, but can improve his shooting a bit


To the bolded, yes, I think Rui could be what Harrison Barnes was for the Warriors 10 years ago. I think the big issue for the Lakers is the roster may not all fit together, and Rui and Knecht on their own probably don't get the Lakers an upgrade.

I think the Lakers can live with a Vincent/Smart tandem at guard. Then you have Reaves, LeBron, and Luka getting the bulk of the minutes. That leaves Rui, Vando, Ayton, Hayes and Kleber vying for the big minutes at the 5.

If the Lakers are looking to upgrade, Rui has the most trade value. I don't think Rui on his own gets the Lakers a big upgrade. The Lakers could add in Knecht, but who does that get them? And this is what I meant with my comparison to Toppin: he's useful, but if Indiana put Toppin on the block, how much value would he actually bring back?


oh, we are on the same page, specially with Rui being expiring, little to no value can be had. I would argue that they could offer Rui and Knecht for a player that contributes more in a different place. they could land Monk with Rui, if they feel like they need someone better to handle the ball off the bench. If they need scoring Rui + Knecth probably gets you Derozan? As much as RealGM hates him, he will provide scoring, but the team will lack size.

It's not clear what the Lakers will need, they have depth, consolidating would be good, but if they won't add a pick to deals, this limits their moves


LA needs help, 100%. I just don't think a Rui/Knecht package necessarily gets them a better player.
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Re: Who wants Rui Hachimura? 

Post#72 » by zaz102 » Yesterday 10:47 am

How about a trade centering around Rui /Knecht for Grimes / Oubre?

Sixers get someone to play PF and Lakers get the slightly better players in the deal.
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Re: Who wants Rui Hachimura? 

Post#73 » by jayjaysee » Yesterday 4:38 pm

I could see a simple Rui/Grayson deal making sense for both teams..

Could see Grayson/Richards for Rui/Dalton? Assuming Phoenix is comfortable with Mark/Maluach/Oso big rotation.

But for fun..

Monk to Phx
Grayson to LA
Rui to Sac

Where Phoenix hopes Monk can keep growing as a playmaker to rotate in with Book/Green.. LA sees Grayson off ball with LBJ/Luka.. And Sac actually gets a forward.

Still add in some extra value going to Phoenix from somewhere.
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Re: Who wants Rui Hachimura? 

Post#74 » by JB2 » Yesterday 6:27 pm

jayjaysee wrote:I could see a simple Rui/Grayson deal making sense for both teams..

Could see Grayson/Richards for Rui/Dalton? Assuming Phoenix is comfortable with Mark/Maluach/Oso big rotation.

But for fun..

Monk to Phx
Grayson to LA
Rui to Sac

Where Phoenix hopes Monk can keep growing as a playmaker to rotate in with Book/Green.. LA sees Grayson off ball with LBJ/Luka.. And Sac actually gets a forward.

Still add in some extra value going to Phoenix from somewhere.


How does it make sense for a team lacking in size/size on the wing to trade a 6'9 forward who can slide between the 3-5 for a guard when that's where they're already deepest?

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