Trade: Colby Jones to OKC for Dillon Jones, ‘29 SRP

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Fat guy discrimination.

[nate33]

I figured we'd keep him out of pure necessity. We don't really have a 3rd PG. If one of Bub or McCollum is hurt, Jones is probably the only other guy (except maybe Kyshawn) who can bring the ball up in the face of full court pressure.

Ultimately, it doesn't really matter that much. I didn't expect either of Jones or Branham to stick around past this year anyhow.

Another consideration is that Branham has a much bigger salary ($4.9M versus Jones' $2.7M) which might be more useful as a trade chip at the Trade Deadline.

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We got Dillon Jones from OKC for Colby Jones, whom OKC immediately waived.

I didn't like the trade, because I thought Colby played well for us.

Detroit signed Colby this off-season, & the kid had quite a strong 6 minute outing against us the other night, scoring 8 points on 4 shots while grabbing a pair of boards & 2 steals! Detroit was plus 8 with Colby on the floor.

Meanwhile, Dillon Jones is a R1 pick who was waived after only one season! You don't see that very often.

We chose to keep Malaki Branham instead of Dillon, but the net of all this is that we have Malaki instead of Colby Jones.

Branham has been pretty bad in his career so far -- tho he shot the 3 well last year in 405 minutes. They must have liked what they saw in training camp. He's still only 22.

[nate33]

We got Dillon Jones from OKC for Colby Jones, whom OKC immediately waived.

I didn't like the trade, because I thought Colby played well for us.

Detroit signed Colby this off-season, & the kid had quite a strong 6 minute outing against us the other night, scoring 8 points on 4 shots while grabbing a pair of boards & 2 steals! Detroit was plus 8 with Colby on the floor.

Meanwhile, Dillon Jones is a R1 pick who was waived after only one season! You don't see that very often. We chose to keep Malaki Branham instead.

The net of all this is that we have Malaki Branham instead of Colby Jones.

Branham has been pretty bad in his career so far -- tho he shot the 3 well last year in 405 minutes. They must have liked what they saw in training camp. He's still only 22.

Colby is only on a two-way deal with Detroit FWIW. It's no sure thing he will stay on their roster for the entire season.

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-- I'm not President of the Colby Jones fan club! But, at least he looked pretty useful in his limited minutes last year.

Meanwhile, I can see at least 2 reasons why Branham survived:

+ Still only 22, he's a year younger than Colby Jones -- & almost 2 years younger than Dillon Jones!
+ He has, at least potentially, one important skill (shooting the 3) -- tho the evidence isn't conclusive.

[pcbothwel]

I figured we'd keep him out of pure necessity. We don't really have a 3rd PG. If one of Bub or McCollum is hurt, Jones is probably the only other guy (except maybe Kyshawn) who can bring the ball up in the face of full court pressure.

Ultimately, it doesn't really matter that much. I didn't expect either of Jones or Branham to stick around past this year anyhow.

Another consideration is that Branham has a much bigger salary ($4.9M versus Jones' $2.7M) which might be more useful as a trade chip at the Trade Deadline.

I'd love to bring in Kobe Bufkin, or fan favorite Jared Butler, to be our 15th man.

[nate33]

I figured we'd keep him out of pure necessity. We don't really have a 3rd PG. If one of Bub or McCollum is hurt, Jones is probably the only other guy (except maybe Kyshawn) who can bring the ball up in the face of full court pressure.

Ultimately, it doesn't really matter that much. I didn't expect either of Jones or Branham to stick around past this year anyhow.

Another consideration is that Branham has a much bigger salary ($4.9M versus Jones' $2.7M) which might be more useful as a trade chip at the Trade Deadline.

I'd love to bring in Kobe Bufkin, or fan favorite Jared Butler, to be our 15th man.

I didn't realize that Butler got waived by Phoenix right after he dropped 35 points, 9 assists, 7 rebounds and 0 turnovers on the Lakers. I'd LOVE to see us pick him up and cut either Sharife Cooper or Malike Branham.

What was Phoenix thinking?

And why can't Butler stick around in this league? All the guy does is produce good numbers and play solid D.

[pcbothwel]

I figured we'd keep him out of pure necessity. We don't really have a 3rd PG. If one of Bub or McCollum is hurt, Jones is probably the only other guy (except maybe Kyshawn) who can bring the ball up in the face of full court pressure.

Ultimately, it doesn't really matter that much. I didn't expect either of Jones or Branham to stick around past this year anyhow.

Another consideration is that Branham has a much bigger salary ($4.9M versus Jones' $2.7M) which might be more useful as a trade chip at the Trade Deadline.

I'd love to bring in Kobe Bufkin, or fan favorite Jared Butler, to be our 15th man.

I didn't realize that Butler got waived by Phoenix right after he dropped 35 points, 9 assists, 7 rebounds and 0 turnovers on the Lakers. I'd LOVE to see us pick him up and cut either Sharife Cooper or Malike Branham.

What was Phoenix thinking?

And why can't Butler stick around in this league? All the guy does is produce good numbers and play solid D.

Agreed. Also, the NBA has litany of guys who are still in their early 20's after failing to catch on as former highly touted prospects.
TyTy Washington, Daishen Nix, and Kennedy Chandler are only 23. I wouldnt have guessed that all 3, plus Tristen Newton and Jared Butler would be on the street... but thats the life I guess.

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I didn't realize that Butler got waived by Phoenix right after he dropped 35 points, 9 assists, 7 rebounds and 0 turnovers on the Lakers. I'd LOVE to see us pick him up and cut either Sharife Cooper or Malike Branham.

What was Phoenix thinking?

And why can't Butler stick around in this league? All the guy does is produce good numbers and play solid D.

Incomprehensible....
Grab him! He's only 25, & once CJ is moved, he can be the vet backup at point for most of the next decade!

edit: a lot of teams out there w/ only 14 on their rosters. There's a chance Butler will wind up playing close to 1500 minutes this year.

[nate33]

I saw a tweet suggesting that Butler may be exploring playing in Europe. He might get paid more there than trying to latch onto a two-way contract here. My guess is that he wouldn't sign with an NBA team unless it's for an actual vet-minimum contract that is guaranteed for an entire season.

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I saw a tweet suggesting that Butler may be exploring playing in Europe. He might get paid more there than trying to latch onto a two-way contract here. My guess is that he wouldn't sign with an NBA team unless it's for an actual vet-minimum contract that is guaranteed for an entire season.

...& there is no question he's worth that -- & a fair amount more!

[Kanyewest]

I figured we'd keep him out of pure necessity. We don't really have a 3rd PG. If one of Bub or McCollum is hurt, Jones is probably the only other guy (except maybe Kyshawn) who can bring the ball up in the face of full court pressure.

Ultimately, it doesn't really matter that much. I didn't expect either of Jones or Branham to stick around past this year anyhow.

Another consideration is that Branham has a much bigger salary ($4.9M versus Jones' $2.7M) which might be more useful as a trade chip at the Trade Deadline.

I'd love to bring in Kobe Bufkin, or fan favorite Jared Butler, to be our 15th man.

I didn't realize that Butler got waived by Phoenix right after he dropped 35 points, 9 assists, 7 rebounds and 0 turnovers on the Lakers. I'd LOVE to see us pick him up and cut either Sharife Cooper or Malike Branham.

What was Phoenix thinking?

And why can't Butler stick around in this league? All the guy does is produce good numbers and play solid D.

It seemed like Jordan Goodwin was the one who beat Butler out along with Gillespie- Suns fans are saying that they needed for defense. And pointed out that Butler is a smaller guard who also had a bad performance against the Nets.

It seems like a growing number of guys who seemed qualified that can't make the league.

[nate33]

I'd love to bring in Kobe Bufkin, or fan favorite Jared Butler, to be our 15th man.

I didn't realize that Butler got waived by Phoenix right after he dropped 35 points, 9 assists, 7 rebounds and 0 turnovers on the Lakers. I'd LOVE to see us pick him up and cut either Sharife Cooper or Malike Branham.

What was Phoenix thinking?

And why can't Butler stick around in this league? All the guy does is produce good numbers and play solid D.

It seemed like Jordan Goodwin was the one who beat Butler out along with Gillespie- Suns fans are saying that they needed for defense. And pointed out that Butler is smaller guard who also had a bad performance against the Nets.

It looks that way. Honestly, Goodwin is really more of a 3&D shooting guard than an actual point guard. Phoenix doesn't really have a single natural PG on the roster. The best they've got is Devin Booker, who gets hurt a lot.

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Goodwin is quite a good player too. IMO it's very close between those 2 guys overall. Goodwin is the better defender it seems -- certainly by rep.

[9 and 20]

Jones was terrible from the beginning. Has always looked like an overweight middle aged dude at the rec center who played DIII ball in college once upon a time.

More than a handful of guys out there that are better than Branham, too.

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Every time I read a post in this thread I disagree with it!

Then I think for a second & realize "oh, wait, no -- he's talking about the other Jones guy!"

It's a complicated business, I tell you, being a Wizards fan!

[AFM]

Me and Mrs. Jones....

[9 and 20]

Fat guy discrimination.

Love it when the fat guys have some success. Seems like it happens when they have unexpected athleticism like Barkley. We had Ledell Eackles. Floorbound, slow fat guys sometimes do OK but usually seem to flame out. The high flying fat guy or super nimble fat guy becomes a fan fave, if not a legend - Big Baby, Antoine Walker, Bonzi Wells. Hopefully Derik Queen is next.

But Jones was terrible.

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...Jones was terrible.

Hey, guys -- maybe we should stop kicking this kid on his way out the door....? May need to borrow money from him some day.

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