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Game 6: Packers at Cardinals - 10/19/25 - 3:25 - FOX

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Re: Game 6: Packers at Cardinals - 10/19/25 - 3:25 - FOX 

Post#441 » by MoMM » Mon Oct 20, 2025 9:35 pm

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MVP2110 wrote:PFF grades(min 10 snaps)

Offense

Best
1. Zach Tom 74.3
2. Rasheed Walker 72.1
3. Josh Jacobs 71.2
4. Matthew Golden 67.1
5. Romeo Doubs 65.8

Worst
1. Jordan Morgan 34.8
2. Luke Musgrave 42.3
3. John Fitzpatrick 46
4. Malik Heath 50.6
5. Jordan Love 53.5


Defense

Best
1. Micah Parsons 92.6
2. Colby Wooden 86
3. Isaiah Mcduffie 80.2
4. Xavier Mckinney 77.9
5. Javon Bullard 73

Worst
1. Barryn Sorrell 40
2. Nate Hobbs 47.9
3. Edgerrin Cooper 49.8
4. Keisean Nixon 57.7
5. Quay Walker 58.6


I'm a little surprised at Morgan's terrible score.

Musgrave, to my eyes has had a disappointing season in all facets so far.

Cooper seems to be in a sophomore slump to this point

I think we can all say that Luke Musgrave is officially a bust, but that's OK, we drafted 2 TEs in that year and one of them is very good. It's hard to be right in all the picks, but if we spend draft capital in the same position, at least one of them should pan out like Tucker and Cooper did.
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Re: Game 6: Packers at Cardinals - 10/19/25 - 3:25 - FOX 

Post#442 » by Ron Swanson » Mon Oct 20, 2025 9:43 pm

If they're not even gonna throw it to Musgrave, then I don't know what the point of trotting him out there is.
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Re: Game 6: Packers at Cardinals - 10/19/25 - 3:25 - FOX 

Post#443 » by Treebeard » Mon Oct 20, 2025 9:47 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:If they're not even gonna throw it to Musgrave, then I don't know what the point of trotting him out there is.


Just from my random observations on several plays, he doesn't seem to get much separation from defenders.
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Re: Game 6: Packers at Cardinals - 10/19/25 - 3:25 - FOX 

Post#444 » by Ron Swanson » Mon Oct 20, 2025 10:16 pm

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Ron Swanson wrote:If they're not even gonna throw it to Musgrave, then I don't know what the point of trotting him out there is.


Just from my random observations on several plays, he doesn't seem to get much separation from defenders.


I mean, his freakish speed and athleticism didn't disappear overnight. All I know is throwing him out there for 20-snaps just to use him as a run blocker, something he's not particularly good at, seems like a waste and not something overall helpful to the team. Just give all his snaps to Fitzpatrick if this is how he's gonna be used going forward.
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Re: Game 6: Packers at Cardinals - 10/19/25 - 3:25 - FOX 

Post#445 » by raysbookclub » Tue Oct 21, 2025 12:03 am

MLF said that they were in zone on that 3rd and long Hobbs gave up but that side (ie, Hobbs) was playing press man, and how you can’t have that. Probably why Hafley was mad in the booth camera shot. MLF wasn’t picking on him though, said he’d come back stronger be resilient etc like CBs have to do all the time.
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Re: Game 6: Packers at Cardinals - 10/19/25 - 3:25 - FOX 

Post#446 » by MoMM » Tue Oct 21, 2025 10:01 am

Ron Swanson wrote:
Treebeard wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:If they're not even gonna throw it to Musgrave, then I don't know what the point of trotting him out there is.


Just from my random observations on several plays, he doesn't seem to get much separation from defenders.


I mean, his freakish speed and athleticism didn't disappear overnight. All I know is throwing him out there for 20-snaps just to use him as a run blocker, something he's not particularly good at, seems like a waste and not something overall helpful to the team. Just give all his snaps to Fitzpatrick if this is how he's gonna be used going forward.

Maybe he is used to distract the defense, that seems the only reason.

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