NFC East

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Who will win the division next season?

Commanders
3
25%
Cowboys
3
25%
Eagles
6
50%
Giants
0
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Re: NFC East 

Post#3401 » by Mr B » Tue Oct 21, 2025 3:01 am

Jaydubb wrote:
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“If” applies to a lot of things. Probably the only people that didn’t think Pickens would be good with the Cowboys though was Eagles fans and Steelers fans.


Not me. Again I never questioned the talent I question where his heads at. Hasn’t been an issue yet so that’s good

I think the fact that both CeeDee and Dak immediately accepted him helps.
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Re: NFC East 

Post#3402 » by Mariner » Tue Oct 21, 2025 4:06 am

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Jaydubb wrote:It’s a possibility. Comp picks are given out based on free agents lost vs signed. That free agency hasn’t begun yet.

That’s part of formula but there are more things that factor in.

Yes but acting like somebody already knows if you’ll get a comp pick or not is pointless because the process needs to play out first. That’s the whole point. You won’t really know for sure until free agency has played out and we are like 7 or 8 months away from that. Hell, this season isn’t even halfway done yet and things can happen that will factor in.

The comp pick was just one scenario though.
Hard to imagine they get nothing for him.
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Re: NFC East 

Post#3403 » by QB_Eagles » Tue Oct 21, 2025 5:56 am

Mr B wrote:
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QB_Eagles wrote:That's not how compensatory picks work. They can't be determined a year in advance.

They are based on the total signings and departures of a team in a given free agency period.

Of course…
The cowboys are near the top of the league in receiving comp picks since it began. It’s not that difficult to predict Pickens would get the highest value.
Also if you spend on released players it doesn’t count against the formula.
Concerning your picks comments.
First round picks are different than a third. lol
First rounders have a higher hit rate then the third.

Stephen Jones and Will McClay value the comp picks more than they value signing another team’s free agent. That’s why they’ve always had a high number of comp picks. They haven’t signed a high dollar outside free agent since Brandon Carr.

Just a few weeks ago y'all were defending the Micah trade because $47/year mil can buy you 4 good free agents.
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Re: NFC East 

Post#3404 » by Mariner » Tue Oct 21, 2025 9:52 am

QB_Eagles wrote:
Mr B wrote:
Mariner wrote:Of course…
The cowboys are near the top of the league in receiving comp picks since it began. It’s not that difficult to predict Pickens would get the highest value.
Also if you spend on released players it doesn’t count against the formula.
Concerning your picks comments.
First round picks are different than a third. lol
First rounders have a higher hit rate then the third.

Stephen Jones and Will McClay value the comp picks more than they value signing another team’s free agent. That’s why they’ve always had a high number of comp picks. They haven’t signed a high dollar outside free agent since Brandon Carr.

Just a few weeks ago y'all were defending the Micah trade because $47/year mil can buy you 4 good free agents.

Sure. Our own free agents which could include Pickens.
Also there are always good players that are cap casualties that are cut that can be signed to big money that don’t count against the comp formula.
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Re: NFC East 

Post#3405 » by Mr B » Tue Oct 21, 2025 1:07 pm

QB_Eagles wrote:
Mr B wrote:
Mariner wrote:Of course…
The cowboys are near the top of the league in receiving comp picks since it began. It’s not that difficult to predict Pickens would get the highest value.
Also if you spend on released players it doesn’t count against the formula.
Concerning your picks comments.
First round picks are different than a third. lol
First rounders have a higher hit rate then the third.

Stephen Jones and Will McClay value the comp picks more than they value signing another team’s free agent. That’s why they’ve always had a high number of comp picks. They haven’t signed a high dollar outside free agent since Brandon Carr.

Just a few weeks ago y'all were defending the Micah trade because $47/year mil can buy you 4 good free agents.

They extended Tyler Smith, and Jake Ferguson, brought in Clowney, and will likely resign Pickens (pending if his agent plays ball) all with the money they saved by not signing Micah Parsons. Sounds like it was a good trade to me. I’m sure the Packers are happy too.
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Re: NFC East 

Post#3406 » by QB_Eagles » Tue Oct 21, 2025 4:13 pm

Mr B wrote:
QB_Eagles wrote:
Mr B wrote:Stephen Jones and Will McClay value the comp picks more than they value signing another team’s free agent. That’s why they’ve always had a high number of comp picks. They haven’t signed a high dollar outside free agent since Brandon Carr.

Just a few weeks ago y'all were defending the Micah trade because $47/year mil can buy you 4 good free agents.

They extended Tyler Smith, and Jake Ferguson, brought in Clowney, and will likely resign Pickens (pending if his agent plays ball) all with the money they saved by not signing Micah Parsons. Sounds like it was a good trade to me. I’m sure the Packers are happy too.

You think Pickens will re-sign for $5 mil/year?
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Post#3407 » by Lakers In 5 » Tue Oct 21, 2025 4:26 pm

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I want this to happen and I want Crosby to cost more than Parsons.
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Re: NFC East 

Post#3408 » by Mr B » Tue Oct 21, 2025 4:44 pm

QB_Eagles wrote:
Mr B wrote:
QB_Eagles wrote:Just a few weeks ago y'all were defending the Micah trade because $47/year mil can buy you 4 good free agents.

They extended Tyler Smith, and Jake Ferguson, brought in Clowney, and will likely resign Pickens (pending if his agent plays ball) all with the money they saved by not signing Micah Parsons. Sounds like it was a good trade to me. I’m sure the Packers are happy too.

You think Pickens will re-sign for $5 mil/year?

Why would he sign for that?
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Re: NFC East 

Post#3409 » by QB_Eagles » Tue Oct 21, 2025 4:46 pm

Mr B wrote:
QB_Eagles wrote:
Mr B wrote:They extended Tyler Smith, and Jake Ferguson, brought in Clowney, and will likely resign Pickens (pending if his agent plays ball) all with the money they saved by not signing Micah Parsons. Sounds like it was a good trade to me. I’m sure the Packers are happy too.

You think Pickens will re-sign for $5 mil/year?

Why would he sign for that?

Math.

Not much left of that Micah money savings.
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Post#3410 » by Mr B » Tue Oct 21, 2025 4:53 pm

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I want this to happen and I want Crosby to cost more than Parsons.

Well Crosby is already signed to a long term contract with a cap hit of $38M this season and $35M next season. Then his camp hit drops to $29M and then $27M in 2028.

Micah Parsons has a cap hit of $9M this season and $19M next season (plus the Packers 2 FRP’s). Then in 2028 his cap hit jumps to $42M and then $73M in 2029. They technically could get out from under Micah’s contract after the 2028 season since he only has a dead cap# of $8M.
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Re: NFC East 

Post#3411 » by Mr B » Tue Oct 21, 2025 4:57 pm

QB_Eagles wrote:
Mr B wrote:
QB_Eagles wrote:You think Pickens will re-sign for $5 mil/year?

Why would he sign for that?

Math.

Not much left of that Micah money savings.

Are you referring to the amount of money left on this years cap? Next year the numbers will be different for all of the players I mentioned.

I know you REALLY want to prove the Cowboys messed up by trading Micah but the fact is they are actually better especially financially. Ferguson, Tyler Smith, and a resigned GP is a pretty good trade off for shipping Micah out. Not to mention if they are able to trade for Maxx Crosby or Trey Hendrickson (with the picks from the Micah deal). No matter how you look at it that’s a win for Dallas.
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Re: NFC East 

Post#3412 » by QB_Eagles » Tue Oct 21, 2025 5:26 pm

Mr B wrote:
QB_Eagles wrote:
Mr B wrote:Why would he sign for that?

Math.

Not much left of that Micah money savings.

Are you referring to the amount of money left on this years cap? Next year the numbers will be different for all of the players I mentioned.

I know you REALLY want to prove the Cowboys messed up by trading Micah but the fact is they are actually better especially financially. Ferguson, Tyler Smith, and a resigned GP is a pretty good trade off for shipping Micah out. Not to mention if they are able to trade for Maxx Crosby or Trey Hendrickson (with the picks from the Micah deal). No matter how you look at it that’s a win for Dallas.

Obviously I can't criticize Jerry's roster building, trading away one of the best players in the NFL and investing the cap space to make 6th-15th best players at their position the highest paid (or in case of Bland making the 64th best the 5th highest paid), because I'm not a SB-winning GM while Jerry is.
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Re: NFC East 

Post#3413 » by Mr B » Tue Oct 21, 2025 5:40 pm

QB_Eagles wrote:
Mr B wrote:
QB_Eagles wrote:Math.

Not much left of that Micah money savings.

Are you referring to the amount of money left on this years cap? Next year the numbers will be different for all of the players I mentioned.

I know you REALLY want to prove the Cowboys messed up by trading Micah but the fact is they are actually better especially financially. Ferguson, Tyler Smith, and a resigned GP is a pretty good trade off for shipping Micah out. Not to mention if they are able to trade for Maxx Crosby or Trey Hendrickson (with the picks from the Micah deal). No matter how you look at it that’s a win for Dallas.

Obviously I can't criticize Jerry's roster building, trading away one of the best players in the NFL and investing the cap space to make 6th-15th best players at their position the highest paid (or in case of Bland making the 64th best the 5th highest paid), because I'm not a SB-winning GM while Jerry is.

Cool, glad you get it now!
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Re: NFC East 

Post#3414 » by Mr B » Thu Oct 23, 2025 6:03 pm

I don’t care about the money, this would be the best thing for the Cowboys if they want Dak to continue being the QB.

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Re: NFC East 

Post#3415 » by wco81 » Thu Oct 23, 2025 8:05 pm

Mr B wrote:I don’t care about the money, this would be the best thing for the Cowboys if they want Dak to continue being the QB.




Would be a lot of cap space tied up for just 3 players.

If their passing game was truly unstoppable it could be worth it but otherwise, you run into issues of roster building and balance.

Bengals put up gaudy passing and receiving stats last season and then gave huge contracts to both Chase and Higgins. Burrow already had gotten a record-setting extension (at the time of signing).

Cowboys have a better line and a more productive running game to complement the passing game, which includes a good pass-catching TE.

We will see if they can make trades to improve their defense or see how far they can get trying to outscore every opponent. Teams can play keep away and control the clock if the Cowboys defense again has problems stopping the run.

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