Fake Trade Thread #7

[Diop]

Lastly, will Jeffie and company even TRY to do anything that soon or just ride out another difficult losing season?

everything they said and did in the offseason implies that no they will not

If ball, miller and kon start well and look like a great core that just needs support, they will look to trade for help.

If not they will play it out and continue the slow build.

This new front office was once reported as having Brandon Miller as the only untradeable player. They could shop Ball later if they don’t see a future with him running the team.

It’s why I refer to this team as a new rebuild with this front office.

[JustBuzzin]

In a perfect world we trade for Bam while keeping LaMelo/Miller.

[Braggins]

The Rockets didn't extend Tari Eason. If he ends up being the odd man out in Houston for salary reasons the Hornets should be all over him. They need someone like him on this roster so bad.

[JDR720]

Mann and something for Eason and something, although the salaries don't work because Houston is an apron team.

Something around one of our excess guards for Eason has some legs somehow though. I don't think Houston can be a legit contender with Thompson being the PG.

[JMAC3]

im more interested in finding a trade for a pf type than another true center.
1. tiddy sucks
2. miles insurance
3. grant insurance
4. easier to trade miles if deal comes

I would disagree
1. PF doesn't matter much, you can play small there and most teams can't really punish you.
2. Adding a PF, then when Grant is back you don't have enough mins for Miles, Grant and Tiddy and 2 of those guys are basically out of rotation. While still having to play Moussa and Kalk heavy mins makes no sense.
3. Where adding a Center they are probably guaranteed to be a starter or at least the top backup majority of the year.
4. Much harder to survive in the NBA without a true center on defense/offense then playing without a true PF.

Miles is going to play 33+ mpg so surviving 15 mpg without him on the floor at a non-essential position just isn't going to be a needle mover imo.

[yosemiteben]

Yeah I don't have a ton of heartburn about our PF rotation. I think we can cover as is with various permutations of Brandon, Kon, and Salaun, and that's before Grant gets back.

Reminder that Kon is basically the exact same size that Miles was when he came out of the draft, and is still basically the same size but just 10 pounds lighter.

[JMAC3]

Yeah I don't have a ton of heartburn about our PF rotation. I think we can cover as is with various permutations of Brandon, Kon, and Salaun, and that's before Grant gets back.

Reminder that Kon is basically the exact same size that Miles was when he came out of the draft, and is still basically the same size but just 10 pounds lighter.

PF just doesn't matter, Josh Hart, Demarr, Harrison Barnes and Royce Oneal spend heavy minutes playing that spot.
We could honestly get away with playing Liam, Josh Green, Brandon, Kon, or Sion at that spot for stretches during games and I think it would be mostly okay.

[JMAC3]

I think the organization did pretty much the least possible at center this off-season possible with trading Nurk, trading Mark, not spending a first rounder on center and then signing Plumlee. Maybe that is there way to stealth tank to another top 4 lottery odds.

I wouldn't even be mad if they overpaid for a starting center by including a 1st round pick in a deal for guys like Gafford, Goga or Yves Missi.

[SWedd523]

Yeah I don't have a ton of heartburn about our PF rotation. I think we can cover as is with various permutations of Brandon, Kon, and Salaun, and that's before Grant gets back.

Reminder that Kon is basically the exact same size that Miles was when he came out of the draft, and is still basically the same size but just 10 pounds lighter.

It's one thing to get away with non-ideal 4s when you have a competent center rotation and defense.

Don't have that kind of leeway here and I don't think hand waving away the reality of the rotation is a good recipe for success. They're in store for pain.

[HornetJail]

as with basically everything else on this team, the PF rotation is less of an issue if you're getting even 40-50 games out of Mark Williams in the middle

[SWedd523]

as with basically everything else on this team, the PF rotation is less of an issue if you're getting even 40-50 games out of Mark Williams in the middle

I hate to break it to you but don't expect him to put in that many games for us this year

[yosemiteben]

Yeah I don't have a ton of heartburn about our PF rotation. I think we can cover as is with various permutations of Brandon, Kon, and Salaun, and that's before Grant gets back.

Reminder that Kon is basically the exact same size that Miles was when he came out of the draft, and is still basically the same size but just 10 pounds lighter.

It's one thing to get away with non-ideal 4s when you have a competent center rotation and defense.

Don't have that kind of leeway here and I don't think hand waving away the reality of the rotation is a good recipe for success. They're in store for pain.

The reality of the rotation is we have like 4 options that can provide backup level production for 15 MPG at the 4, and that is setting aside the fact that we have a starter level PF that at some point is coming back from injury.

I'm in wait and see mode on our center rotation, but I don't see PF as a major issue right now. Maybe it will be.

[yosemiteben]

as with basically everything else on this team, the PF rotation is less of an issue if you're getting even 40-50 games out of Mark Williams in the middle

I for one am over aspirationally pulling for guys to be healthy for 40-50 games.

[HornetJail]

glad you're happy with zero games of good center play then

[wilson115]

Sion's another guy who can play the 4 if his 3p shot comes along.

[yosemiteben]

glad you're happy with zero games of good center play then

For whatever it's worth, I think we'll be more then fine offensively. It's defensively that we need help, and I'm not convinced that Mark is better defensively than Kalk, and I know he's not better than Diabate.

[Braggins]

I want them to trade for a PF (or SF with size, ie Eason), but a big part of it is I still want Miles off the team, so I want a replacement for him. I despise Miles and don't think he fits what they need from that position, but its not an urgent need purely in terms of talent.

[JDR720]

glad you're happy with zero games of good center play then

Some teams don't even start a traditional center anymore. Golden State just put out a Kuminga/Jimmy/Draymond frontline. Guys like Diabate (due to his switchability) and Kalk (due to being defensive/lob threat guy) fit the league better than 1-way offensive centers like Mark do.

[Chapelchilla]

Williams has not been good since he got hurt. He is a fake numbers / negative actual player. Kalk is not great but probably will have more net positive impact. Diabate is straight up better. We could still use a great player at C but Mark was not it.

[LofJ]

Bam Adebayo's salary will jump from $37 million this season to $51 million next season. Unless the Heat think they have the ammo to trade Bam for someone like Giannis he's getting traded this season imo.

The only team that I think would be willing and able to outbid us are the Spurs. But us having Miami's pick gives us a chance. If they decide on finally rebuilding they're really going to want that pick back.

As soon as Grant Williams is ready to play I think Jeff Peterson will be ready to pounce. Miles, Green, and picks for Bam.