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Re: Around the league -- Offseason edition 

Post#1281 » by Bob8 » Fri Oct 17, 2025 4:38 pm

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Bob8 wrote:I put some money on Rockets winning it all.


The Rockets with FVV were very scary... Now i don't know, probably not enough to beat OKC.



I agree. I'm the world's biggest Amen fan, but I think he'll be exposed at fulltime PG. That and relying on Adams to stay healthy is problematic. He's averaged 50 games the last 2 seasons, only 42 last season. Capela in that spot probably won't work.

Similar situation to us, but with better pieces.

BTW, if we didn't have PJ, I'd go after Tari Eason.


I believe in Sengun as their main creator, FVV injury basically opens place for Sengun to create a lot more and if it works, they're having incredible team to surround him.

Situation is very different, because Sengun can create and shoot, KD is still elite scorer and they have incredible wings defenders.
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Post#1282 » by Super Cooper » Fri Oct 17, 2025 4:39 pm

-Jragon- wrote:KM on Wizards is going to sour. In a preseason game I just saw him box out 4x in a row.. more than in the last 6 years here. Then he missed 2 defensive assignments in a row and was pulled. He's obviously being told he has to earn his PT... I predict he'll be "injured" soon

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Re: Around the league -- Offseason edition 

Post#1283 » by Super Cooper » Fri Oct 17, 2025 4:47 pm

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The Rockets with FVV were very scary... Now i don't know, probably not enough to beat OKC.



I agree. I'm the world's biggest Amen fan, but I think he'll be exposed at fulltime PG. That and relying on Adams to stay healthy is problematic. He's averaged 50 games the last 2 seasons, only 42 last season. Capela in that spot probably won't work.

Similar situation to us, but with better pieces.

BTW, if we didn't have PJ, I'd go after Tari Eason.


I believe in Sengun as their main creator, FVV injury basically opens place for Sengun to create a lot more and if it works, they're having incredible team to surround him.

Situation is very different, because Sengun can create and shoot, KD is still elite scorer and they have incredible wings defenders.


Excellent point. If you factor that in, they're quite like the 2023 championship DEN, but with better pieces (except for Joker).
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Re: Around the league -- Offseason edition 

Post#1284 » by Bob8 » Fri Oct 17, 2025 4:53 pm

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I agree. I'm the world's biggest Amen fan, but I think he'll be exposed at fulltime PG. That and relying on Adams to stay healthy is problematic. He's averaged 50 games the last 2 seasons, only 42 last season. Capela in that spot probably won't work.

Similar situation to us, but with better pieces.

BTW, if we didn't have PJ, I'd go after Tari Eason.


I believe in Sengun as their main creator, FVV injury basically opens place for Sengun to create a lot more and if it works, they're having incredible team to surround him.

Situation is very different, because Sengun can create and shoot, KD is still elite scorer and they have incredible wings defenders.


Excellent point. If you factor that in, they're quite like the 2023 championship DEN, but with better pieces (except for Joker).


It's to be seen, but knowing that Sengun was 3rd in assists in Eurobasket and he averaged 8.3 assists in just 24 minutes in preseason, it looks Udoka will try this way.
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Re: Around the league -- Offseason edition 

Post#1285 » by Super Cooper » Sat Oct 18, 2025 5:47 pm

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I believe in Sengun as their main creator, FVV injury basically opens place for Sengun to create a lot more and if it works, they're having incredible team to surround him.

Situation is very different, because Sengun can create and shoot, KD is still elite scorer and they have incredible wings defenders.


Excellent point. If you factor that in, they're quite like the 2023 championship DEN, but with better pieces (except for Joker).


It's to be seen, but knowing that Sengun was 3rd in assists in Eurobasket and he averaged 8.3 assists in just 24 minutes in preseason, it looks Udoka will try this way.


Wow. Thanks. I had no idea. I only watched their final PS, with all the starters sitting. HOU is a compelling team to watch this year.
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Re: Around the league -- Offseason edition 

Post#1286 » by 41Dirk41 » Sat Oct 18, 2025 6:43 pm

Sengun destroyed Giannis with the NT. It was a massacre.
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Re: Around the league -- Offseason edition 

Post#1287 » by Mavrelous » Sun Oct 19, 2025 1:18 pm

Durant extends, Rockets are loaded and set up well for these 2-3 years.
With SAS having Wemby and Harper, the dominant Texas triangle is back...
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Re: Around the league -- Offseason edition 

Post#1288 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Oct 22, 2025 7:19 am

The Fakers looked like the 2020/21 Mavs... Poor Luka hahahahahaha
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Post#1289 » by Bob8 » Wed Oct 22, 2025 7:47 am

Rockets lost but Sengun is looking incredible.
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Re: Around the league -- Offseason edition 

Post#1290 » by Mavrelous » Wed Oct 22, 2025 12:20 pm

41Dirk41 wrote:The Fakers looked like the 2020/21 Mavs... Poor Luka hahahahahaha

22/23 Mavs, worse than 20/21 Mavs.
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Re: Around the league -- Offseason edition 

Post#1291 » by Bob8 » Wed Oct 22, 2025 12:27 pm

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41Dirk41 wrote:The Fakers looked like the 2020/21 Mavs... Poor Luka hahahahahaha

22/23 Mavs, worse than 20/21 Mavs.


I would say that's a little too early for evaluating a team, who's missing 52 mio player. Put LeBron instead of Vincent and result might be different. 41 years old taking that much money is of course a big gamble, but he had 1+1 contract, not anymore.
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Re: Around the league -- Offseason edition 

Post#1292 » by 41Dirk41 » Wed Oct 22, 2025 1:12 pm

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41Dirk41 wrote:The Fakers looked like the 2020/21 Mavs... Poor Luka hahahahahaha

22/23 Mavs, worse than 20/21 Mavs.


I would say that's a little too early for evaluating a team, who's missing 52 mio player. Put LeBron instead of Vincent and result might be different. 41 years old taking that much money is of course a big gamble, but he had 1+1 contract, not anymore.


Lebron+Luka+Reaves can't stay together on the court in PO. Last was a massacre against a mediocre team.
Ayton&Smart looked done.

Fakers has a lot of room to improve and a real superstar is his prime, that's sure.
But right now they are not so good. Mostly in PO.
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Re: Around the league -- Offseason edition 

Post#1293 » by Bob8 » Wed Oct 22, 2025 1:36 pm

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Mavrelous wrote:22/23 Mavs, worse than 20/21 Mavs.


I would say that's a little too early for evaluating a team, who's missing 52 mio player. Put LeBron instead of Vincent and result might be different. 41 years old taking that much money is of course a big gamble, but he had 1+1 contract, not anymore.


Lebron+Luka+Reaves can't stay together on the court in PO. Last was a massacre against a mediocre team.
Ayton&Smart looked done.

Fakers has a lot of room to improve and a real superstar is his prime, that's sure.
But right now they are not so good. Mostly in PO.


Luka was not himself last year. If Luka/Brunson/Dinwiddie/Powell could, then Lakers can too. The biggest question is of course, how grandpa LeBron will look. It's true they're not good enough to win against Okc or Rockets, but who knows how teams will look in playoffs, few important injuries and few trades and things can change drastically.

Smart looks pretty decent to me, Ayton not really.

It's easy to make big conclusions after game like that. But you can't win many games in Nba by shooting 25% for 3 and missing 11 FTs.
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Re: Around the league -- Offseason edition 

Post#1294 » by Super Cooper » Wed Oct 22, 2025 4:53 pm

Luka looked amazing. He took off on defense for a couple of possessions, but looked great on D. AR had a rough night for him. Ayton is terrible. No wonder they want Gaff.
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Post#1295 » by Bob8 » Wed Oct 22, 2025 5:31 pm

Super Cooper wrote:Luka looked amazing. He took off on defense for a couple of possessions, but looked great on D. AR had a rough night for him. Ayton is terrible. No wonder they want Gaff.


I believe they're after Kessler, but they really don't have anything to give to Ainge. I would trade AR + something for sure, but for some reason it looks they will give him 30 per year.
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Re: Around the league -- Offseason edition 

Post#1296 » by Super Cooper » Wed Oct 22, 2025 10:24 pm

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Super Cooper wrote:Luka looked amazing. He took off on defense for a couple of possessions, but looked great on D. AR had a rough night for him. Ayton is terrible. No wonder they want Gaff.


I believe they're after Kessler, but they really don't have anything to give to Ainge. I would trade AR + something for sure, but for some reason it looks they will give him 30 per year.


Ayton has worse hands than Dampier. Luka was feeding him gorgeous passes, and they were bouncing out of his hands.

I completely agree that they need to move AR for a C. If they're looking at Kessler, they're dumb. They need defense more than anything. GS had free reign in the paint. We should beat LAL by 20.
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Re: Around the league -- Offseason edition 

Post#1297 » by Super Cooper » Thu Oct 23, 2025 12:26 am

Lonzo can't buy a bucket, but he looks great at everything else. He cost twice what we paid for DLo, but Lonzo would have been a much better choice than Exum + DLo
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Post#1298 » by Super Cooper » Thu Oct 23, 2025 6:27 pm

MIA is celebrating the FBI sting that included Rozier. He was out of the rotation anyway. His $26.6m salary is coming off the books as soon as his contract is voided.

IMO, there will be more players arrested to come. I can't believe that stat/point shaving was only one player. Malik Beasley is obviously involved.

I really liked Damon Jones when he played for the Mavs, then hated him on the Heat. Damon reportedly leaked "insider" info like Lebron not playing a game.

Billups was arrested for the scam poker games (with x-ray tables) and not point shaving. As an NBA fan I worry much more about the stat/point shaving.
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Re: Around the league -- Offseason edition 

Post#1299 » by HMFFL » Thu Oct 23, 2025 6:28 pm

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The FBI is holding a press conference right now on the details around this morning's sports gambling bust.

Here are some of the highlights:

1. Current and former NBA players and coaches Chauncey Billups, Terry Rozier, and Damon Jones have been arrested.

2. This was an illegal gambling and sports rigging operation that spanned years across 11 states. In total, 30 individuals have been arrested (13 mafia members).

3. The case involves La Cosa Nostra (the Italian mafia).

4. Charges include illegal gambling, wire fraud, and extortion.

5. There are two separate indictments. The first involves six defendants accused of participating in a sports corruption scheme that exploited insider information involving NBA players and teams. The defendants leveraged their connections to place prop bets based on confidential insider information, winning tens of thousands of dollars per bet.

The second indictment involves 31 defendants charged with participating in a nationwide scheme to rig illegal poker games. The FBI says they used high-tech cheating technology to steal millions of dollars from victims in underground poker games that were secretly fixed.

6. The two cases are separate, but there are three overlapping defendants, including former NBA player and coach Damon Jones.

7. The FBI says that NBA player Terry Rozier told the defendants that he was going to leave a game early on March 23, 2023, with an injury. The defendants then placed more than $200,000 of wagers on the unders for his prop bets, with Rozier leaving the game after nine minutes. Those bets paid out tens of thousands of dollars in profits, and the defendants and Rozier counted the money at his house.

8 The FBI says that former Raptors player Jontay Porter was threatened to participate in the sports gambling scheme because of his gambling debts.

9. Teams that were bet on during the sports gambling scheme include the Charlotte Hornets, Portland Trail Blazers, Los Angeles Lakers, and the Toronto Raptors.

10. The rigged poker games occurred in the Hamptons, Miami, Las Vegas, and Manhattan.

11. The poker scheme targeted victims who were lured to participate in rigged poker games by the chance to play alongside former professional athletes. These athletes included Chauncey Billups and Damon Jones.

12. The FBI says that the defendants utilized altered shuffling machines to read the cards in the deck and then relayed that information to an off-site operator. The offsite operator — known as the "quarterback" — then sent that information to someone at the table.

13. The FBI also says that the defendants utilized other cheating technologies, including poker chip trays that read cards through hidden cameras, special contact lenses and glasses that could read marked cards, and x-ray poker tables that could read cards face down.

14. The FBI says that the defendants robbed a victim at gunpoint to acquire a rigged shuffling machine.

15. The sports gambling investigation is called "Operation Nothing But Net," while the poker investigation is called "Operation Royal Flush."

16. The FBI has been working on this investigation for four years, with victims losing at least $7 million.

17. One specific victim lost at least $1.8 million.

18. The FBI reviewed thousands of hours of video evidence and executed more than two dozen search warrants.

These are just accusations at this point. I am just pointing out details from the FBI's investigation.
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Re: Around the league -- Offseason edition 

Post#1300 » by Super Cooper » Thu Oct 23, 2025 6:33 pm

Miami will have $40m in cap space once Rozier's contract is voided.

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