Rookie Watch - C/O 2025

[the_process]

First it was DWade and Ant. Now, it’s we’ll settle for Iggy

Young Iggy getting out and running with AI, playing D... liked that guy. #1 option Iggy was awful.

If that is what is gotten out of the 3rd overall pick, it was a bad selection and they should have traded down.

[ProcessDoctor]

I mean Iggy is probably one of the best 150 players of all time...most top-3 picks don't even achieve that.

[the_process]

I mean Iggy is probably one of the best 150 players of all time...most top-3 picks don't even achieve that.

No, Iggy is not one the best 150 players of all time.

Top 300? Sure.

[Stanford]

This thread is going to need many rounds of chemo by Christmas.

[Jailblazers7]

History of the last 25 years for 3rd overall picks:

Elite Stars = 5
Luka, Tatum, Embiid, Harden, Carmelo

Tier 2 Stars= 6
Evan Mobley, Jaylen Brown, Bradley Beal, Pau Gasol, Al Horford, Deron Williams

Role player or worse = 9
RJ Barrett, Otto Porter, Ben Gordon, Mike Dunleavy, Derrick Favors, Jahlil Okafor, Enes Kanter, Adam Morrison, OJ Mayo

Too Early to Categorize = 5
Lamelo, Reed Sheppard, Scoot, Jabari Smith, VJ

[Negrodamus]

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So still possible that Nique might be the best of the group. How will the Kings blow this one?

[Wilfried]

History of the last 25 years for 3rd overall picks:

Elite Stars = 5
Luka, Tatum, Embiid, Harden, Carmelo

Tier 2 Stars= 6
Evan Mobley, Jaylen Brown, Bradley Beal, Pau Gasol, Al Horford, Deron Williams

Role player or worse = 9
RJ Barrett, Otto Porter, Ben Gordon, Mike Dunleavy, Derrick Favors, Jahlil Okafor, Enes Kanter, Adam Morrison, OJ Mayo

Too Early to Categorize = 5
Lamelo, Reed Sheppard, Scoot, Jabari Smith, VJ

Lamelo (ROY and All-star) has averages of 21 - 6 and 7. Even with his injuries, he's already better than the players mentioned in the category Role Player or worse

[Jailblazers7]

History of the last 25 years for 3rd overall picks:

Elite Stars = 5
Luka, Tatum, Embiid, Harden, Carmelo

Tier 2 Stars= 6
Evan Mobley, Jaylen Brown, Bradley Beal, Pau Gasol, Al Horford, Deron Williams

Role player or worse = 9
RJ Barrett, Otto Porter, Ben Gordon, Mike Dunleavy, Derrick Favors, Jahlil Okafor, Enes Kanter, Adam Morrison, OJ Mayo

Too Early to Categorize = 5
Lamelo, Reed Sheppard, Scoot, Jabari Smith, VJ

Lamelo (ROY and All-star) has averages of 21 - 6 and 7. Even with his injuries, he's already better than the players mentioned in the category Role Player or worse

I left him as too early to categorize because he could fall into either tier 1 or 2 of the star category depending on health/production.

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[sodmoraes]

I was impressed with vj's all around game. He just fill up the stats sheet. I love guards who can get rebounds. My only worry with him is his 3 ball. If he can shoot like 35-37% from 3 with good volume, in a couple of years, he will be a star. His handle will became better too, and he will have a good mid Jumper i hope.


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[phillynative]

I was impressed with vj's all around game. He just fill up the stats sheet. I love guards who can get rebounds. My only worry with him is his 3 ball. If he can shoot like 35-37% from 3 with good volume, in a couple of years, he will be a star. His handle will became better too, and he will have a good mid Jumper i hope.


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Hes definitely an all-around archtype. Im not expecting him to be consistent from 3 for atleast a couple seasons though. 6'4 jimmy butler comparisons makes since, if he has anywhere close to his work ethic, the sky is the limit. He doesnt possess the size jimmy has but hes a more explosive athlete. I think he will be able to play 1-3 once he gains experience and his frame fills out.

[76ciology]

Short takes on some rookies this preseason:

Tre Johnson: He’s clearly adjusting to not being the focal point of the offense. You can see the struggle when the ball isn’t consistently in his hands or when plays aren’t being called for him.

Ace Bailey: His pre-draft shooting touch definitely translates, and the idea that he’s more effective off the ball looks legitimate. However, preseason defenses don’t switch or fight through screens the way they do in the regular season or playoffs, so those off-ball actions might not be as effective later on. The bigger question is whether he’ll continue to buy into this role long-term, because it’s not exactly a supermax-type role. If he eventually pushes for a larger share of the offense, that’s when things will get interesting.

Kon Kneuppel: He’s showing the same limitations that often cap his archetype in the NBA.. the length, speed, and quickness of the league seem to be bothering him. But when he gets clean looks, his shooting is elite. He can flat-out knock them down with the best of them.

Dylan Harper: Small sample size, but his shot looks noticeably improved. Still, he’s most effective when he has the ball in his hands. There’s a clear drop-off when he plays off-ball. Ideally, he should run the second unit when Fox or Wemby sit, that’s where his strengths really show.

[M2J]

I know the Joel and George health status is always in the air, but I think whoever the Sixers would've drafted... In this case VJ of course, has a positive situation where expectations in terms of massive production is likely to be tamed by this fan base. I would expect the same for Dylan to some extent Cooper too when Kyrie returns. I know the national and general audience will praise the guys with higher numbers, but I certainly can't foresee myself making any conclusions on this class this or maybe even next season. Honestly even Charlotte and Utah currently have a lot of players that are going to want the ball and certainly aren't in position to give a franchise over to

At the same time, these top 3 picks on talented teams seem to be expected to and probably should be expected to be instant contributors rather than given a leash to make a ton of risks and development on the floor. I mean nurse of all people is speaking of VJ as a 3 guard starter early.

I'm just hoping for his defense from VJ, hustle plays,the ability to push the ball which he's certainly shown, and good finishing around the rim with a somewhat respectable jumper by seasons end. With the occasional pop of stardom production when given the opportunities.[/quote]
If he does all that you named that would be very encouraging.

If he can make it to low 30s even from 3 range, I think that's a good base considering his jump shot isn't broken

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[Negrodamus]

Imagine if we didn't land the draft pick. What a nightmare that would have been.

[76ciology]

Why did the Spurs draft Dylan Harper over Edgecombe?

[sodmoraes]

Why did the Spurs draft Dylan Harper over Edgecombe?

I was pro bailey, but i always thought that VJ was a better prospect than Harper. Harper will be a good player, but his 3 ball needs work and he just doesnt have Valdez athletic abilities( almost no one has lol). Vj can be wade-like, that crossover with a dunk was crazy!

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[Negrodamus]

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Everyone was taking turns dunking on the Pelicans, but Fears was a top 5, at times top 3 pick in the draft. Still waiting for Queen to get some real time after not playing for a couple months.

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[bball4life]

Why did the Spurs draft Dylan Harper over Edgecombe?

I had the same thought. I think they're going to regret this pick. MAYBE if you don't extend Fox with the max contract (which I also disagree with BTW, he's not a max player in my book) you draft him. I think the right move was to trade back and get Ace or Kon to complement their core players. Or of course VJ who would supercede any one of their shooting guards or wings almost immediately