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Fisher: Raptors are still shopping RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley

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Re: Fisher: Raptors are still shopping RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley 

Post#841 » by bobbyp3588 » Fri Oct 17, 2025 12:42 pm

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DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:If you look back at that OG trade it was really BAD.. We got fleeced and i was of the idea we couldn't pay him 40 million but we're paying IQ and RJ more than that and these guys can't hold a candle to OG. There is no team in the NBA that will take these two mediocre players with MANY holes in their game especially with the kind of money they are being paid. We are stuck with them but no worries! We'll be able to get a nice pick in the draft especially this year. Our team lacks spacing and with them in the starting lineup our defense will suffer BIGTIME!!


Would you rather have RJ, IQ and Mogbo or nothing? Because he was likely leaving to the Knicks regardless.


i'll take nothing over those players. At least we don't have bad contracts on the books like we do now.


While you’re at, cut your nose off to spite your stupid face. Would be a decision of equal brilliance.
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Re: Fisher: Raptors are still shopping RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley 

Post#842 » by Pointgod » Fri Oct 17, 2025 11:32 pm

PushDaRock wrote:
DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:If you look back at that OG trade it was really BAD.. We got fleeced and i was of the idea we couldn't pay him 40 million but we're paying IQ and RJ more than that and these guys can't hold a candle to OG. There is no team in the NBA that will take these two mediocre players with MANY holes in their game especially with the kind of money they are being paid. We are stuck with them but no worries! We'll be able to get a nice pick in the draft especially this year. Our team lacks spacing and with them in the starting lineup our defense will suffer BIGTIME!!


Would you rather have RJ, IQ and Mogbo or nothing? Because he was likely leaving to the Knicks regardless.


You’re presenting a false choice. OG’s value around the time was a reported 3-4 first round picks. Let’s assume that Quickley was worth the equivalent of a first round pick. Masai could have easily negotiated 2-3 first round picks, seconds and take on an expiring contract instead of RJ to maintain cap flexibility. The Knicks were flush with picks before the Bridges trade and they were going to pay Quickley anyway so they weren’t gonna play hard ball.
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Re: Fisher: Raptors are still shopping RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley 

Post#843 » by mtcan » Sat Oct 18, 2025 1:11 am

Pointgod wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:If you look back at that OG trade it was really BAD.. We got fleeced and i was of the idea we couldn't pay him 40 million but we're paying IQ and RJ more than that and these guys can't hold a candle to OG. There is no team in the NBA that will take these two mediocre players with MANY holes in their game especially with the kind of money they are being paid. We are stuck with them but no worries! We'll be able to get a nice pick in the draft especially this year. Our team lacks spacing and with them in the starting lineup our defense will suffer BIGTIME!!


Would you rather have RJ, IQ and Mogbo or nothing? Because he was likely leaving to the Knicks regardless.


You’re presenting a false choice. OG’s value around the time was a reported 3-4 first round picks. Let’s assume that Quickley was worth the equivalent of a first round pick. Masai could have easily negotiated 2-3 first round picks, seconds and take on an expiring contract instead of RJ to maintain cap flexibility. The Knicks were flush with picks before the Bridges trade and they were going to pay Quickley anyway so they weren’t gonna play hard ball.

NY's picks offered were not high quality picks. They offered a Dallas pick and Detroit pick and I'm reasonably sure there is low chance one of those picks ever conveys as a first round pick. Not all picks are the same in quality.
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Re: Fisher: Raptors are still shopping RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley 

Post#844 » by PushDaRock » Sat Oct 18, 2025 1:26 am

Pointgod wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:If you look back at that OG trade it was really BAD.. We got fleeced and i was of the idea we couldn't pay him 40 million but we're paying IQ and RJ more than that and these guys can't hold a candle to OG. There is no team in the NBA that will take these two mediocre players with MANY holes in their game especially with the kind of money they are being paid. We are stuck with them but no worries! We'll be able to get a nice pick in the draft especially this year. Our team lacks spacing and with them in the starting lineup our defense will suffer BIGTIME!!


Would you rather have RJ, IQ and Mogbo or nothing? Because he was likely leaving to the Knicks regardless.


You’re presenting a false choice. OG’s value around the time was a reported 3-4 first round picks. Let’s assume that Quickley was worth the equivalent of a first round pick. Masai could have easily negotiated 2-3 first round picks, seconds and take on an expiring contract instead of RJ to maintain cap flexibility. The Knicks were flush with picks before the Bridges trade and they were going to pay Quickley anyway so they weren’t gonna play hard ball.


If you're excited about a couple of late FRP's, that's cool I guess.
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Post#845 » by DreamTeam09 » Sat Oct 18, 2025 1:39 am

PushDaRock wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
Would you rather have RJ, IQ and Mogbo or nothing? Because he was likely leaving to the Knicks regardless.


You’re presenting a false choice. OG’s value around the time was a reported 3-4 first round picks. Let’s assume that Quickley was worth the equivalent of a first round pick. Masai could have easily negotiated 2-3 first round picks, seconds and take on an expiring contract instead of RJ to maintain cap flexibility. The Knicks were flush with picks before the Bridges trade and they were going to pay Quickley anyway so they weren’t gonna play hard ball.


If you're excited about a couple of late FRP's, that's cool I guess.


He's presenting a false choice as well, OGs trade value was a reported 4picks the prior trade deadline from Memphis, we traded OG his expiring year. + Memphis had crappy picks too from other teams
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Re: Fisher: Raptors are still shopping RJ Barrett and Immanuel Quickley 

Post#846 » by LoveMyRaps » Sat Oct 18, 2025 2:48 am

I’m taking RJ off the market on behalf of the front office.

Re-sign him.
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Post#847 » by Psubs » Thu Oct 23, 2025 3:28 am

RJ looks like he finally fixed his shot. It looks like it starts higher. If he can now hit the 3 and his FT's then I would be cool keeping him.

I think CMB makes Mogbo expendable. Who can Agbaji and Mobgo fetch?
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Post#848 » by Raptorfan2012 » Thu Oct 23, 2025 3:32 am

Psubs wrote:RJ looks like he finally fixed his shot. It looks like it starts higher. If he can now hit the 3 and his FT's then I would be cool keeping him.

I think CMB makes Mogbo expendable. Who can Agbaji and Mobgo fetch?

Was thinking the same; Ochai and Mobgo are the odd players out that we should look to trade; hopefully for a young big.
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Post#849 » by Tor_Raps » Thu Oct 23, 2025 3:33 am

Cant wait for the right superstar to ask out... we are going to have some sexy packages available to bump us up into championship contention. Until then, hold the fort and keep getting better
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Post#850 » by Psubs » Thu Oct 23, 2025 4:01 am

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Psubs wrote:RJ looks like he finally fixed his shot. It looks like it starts higher. If he can now hit the 3 and his FT's then I would be cool keeping him.

I think CMB makes Mogbo expendable. Who can Agbaji and Mobgo fetch?

Was thinking the same; Ochai and Mobgo are the odd players out that we should look to trade; hopefully for a young big.


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Post#851 » by VanWest82 » Thu Oct 23, 2025 4:11 am

Is it too early for a victory lap by the 'offense is going to be excellent' camp? I'm at least starting the engine.
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Post#852 » by Chris7711 » Thu Oct 23, 2025 4:37 am

They had flashes without Ingram last year plus tank year and fake injuries combined with real injuries that had mgmt punt away the season for lottery odds..This is the real team showing up because mgmt is not after lottery odds this year..will beat and compete with alot of top teams ..one sneaky good consolidation trade can do wonders..
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Post#853 » by Son Goku 25 » Thu Oct 23, 2025 5:25 am

I'm excited what Gradey can provide, I think he looks more confident physically out there and his game really helps this team, has the size too which is a bonus.

If we were to make a bigger trade down the line I can see him being asked for.
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Post#854 » by Johnny Bball » Thu Oct 23, 2025 5:39 am

Tor_Raps wrote:Cant wait for the right superstar to ask out... we are going to have some sexy packages available to bump us up into championship contention. Until then, hold the fort and keep getting better


Seems that this was pretty much mostly/always the plan, when the media said there was no plan.

Just keep making progressively plus trades since only two or three significant players have left their team since 2020 as UFAs, one being FVV. They just sign then "opt out" now instead.
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Post#855 » by Supermann98 » Fri Oct 24, 2025 2:24 pm

Can we all stop talking about trading a hometown guy like RJ and let him grow and gel with the rest of the core? He's not even overpaid by today's standard anymore. His FT% is improving and he's driving to his right with his right hand now, he's still young and improving.
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Post#856 » by MEDIC » Fri Oct 24, 2025 2:36 pm

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Psubs wrote:RJ looks like he finally fixed his shot. It looks like it starts higher. If he can now hit the 3 and his FT's then I would be cool keeping him.

I think CMB makes Mogbo expendable. Who can Agbaji and Mobgo fetch?

Was thinking the same; Ochai and Mobgo are the odd players out that we should look to trade; hopefully for a young big.


Ochai is a goner. We have too much depth at that position.

Mogbo is a super cheap 3rd big, so I am not sure what the point of trading him would be. He won't be getting a pay increase either.
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Post#857 » by mihaic » Fri Oct 24, 2025 3:14 pm

MEDIC wrote:
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Psubs wrote:RJ looks like he finally fixed his shot. It looks like it starts higher. If he can now hit the 3 and his FT's then I would be cool keeping him.

I think CMB makes Mogbo expendable. Who can Agbaji and Mobgo fetch?

Was thinking the same; Ochai and Mobgo are the odd players out that we should look to trade; hopefully for a young big.


Ochai is a goner. We have too much depth at that position.

Mogbo is a super cheap 3rd big, so I am not sure what the point of trading him would be. He won't be getting a pay increase either.

Perhaps packaged with another player for roster spots, otherwise you are right what's the point to trade him.
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Post#858 » by dballislife » Fri Oct 24, 2025 8:46 pm

every second ochai was on court against hawks he either guarded young or johnson, and as we know they are their top players...and he guarded them great, he even did a better job on johnson then barned did...now im no basketball expert but that sounds like a dam useful player
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Post#859 » by SFour » Fri Oct 24, 2025 10:07 pm

dballislife wrote:every second ochai was on court against hawks he either guarded young or johnson, and as we know they are their top players...and he guarded them great, he even did a better job on johnson then barned did...now im no basketball expert but that sounds like a dam useful player


he's the ideal role player that any contender would love to have....the only question should be can Raptors afford to keep him.
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Post#860 » by SFour » Fri Oct 24, 2025 10:10 pm

Supermann98 wrote:Can we all stop talking about trading a hometown guy like RJ and let him grow and gel with the rest of the core? He's not even overpaid by today's standard anymore. His FT% is improving and he's driving to his right with his right hand now, he's still young and improving.


easy to forget he's only 25....not even in his prime until 3+ more years.

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