FBI arrests multiple players and coaches for gambling

Post #1 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Thu Oct 23, 2025 12:33 pm

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Post #2 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Thu Oct 23, 2025 12:34 pm

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Magic_Johnny12 · Post #3 » by **Magic_Johnny12** » Thu Oct 23, 2025 12:35 pm

For anyone wondering the timing isn’t coincidental.

daoneandonly · Post #4 » by **daoneandonly** » Thu Oct 23, 2025 12:36 pm

Wow no surprise by Rozier, but Billups?

Post #5 » by **BBallFreak** » Thu Oct 23, 2025 12:37 pm

Miami is about to get an exception

Post #6 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Thu Oct 23, 2025 12:37 pm

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the_process · Post #7 » by **the_process** » Thu Oct 23, 2025 12:44 pm

BBallFreak wrote:Miami is about to get an exception

They shouldn't. But you might be right.

shrink · Post #8 » by **shrink** » Thu Oct 23, 2025 12:45 pm

Pete Rose vibes?

the_process · Post #9 » by **the_process** » Thu Oct 23, 2025 12:46 pm

This was bound to happen once the leagues got a taste of that gambling money. And it won't be the last time.

Post #10 » by **Texas Chuck** » Thu Oct 23, 2025 1:01 pm

Magic_Johnny12 wrote:For anyone wondering the timing isn’t coincidental.

We all know this administration is desperate for distractions, but we should stick to the basketball element of this, not the political ones. Other places on the internet to discuss that.

BK_2020 · Post #11 » by **BK_2020** » Thu Oct 23, 2025 1:02 pm

Arrest Bam for moving screens.

Post #12 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Thu Oct 23, 2025 1:11 pm

the_process wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:Miami is about to get an exception

They shouldn't. But you might be right.

Usually not an exception with stuff like this. I’d expect Miami to waive Rozier in short order for that immediate $1.74m in non guaranteed savings, and also applying for full removal from the cap. I don’t know that they could get the removal done before the deadline, as it usually requires adjudication of any cases/resolution rather than charges, but could happen before the end of the season?

Post #13 » by **BBallFreak** » Thu Oct 23, 2025 1:12 pm

the_process wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:Miami is about to get an exception

They shouldn't. But you might be right.

No, they should be able to void his contract. Remember the gambling happens when he was in charlotte, not miami. When Miami acquired him, they were under the impression that he was cleared. The NBA cleared him. Had they known the FBI stuff was coming they wouldn't have acquired him. They sunk a first round picking to him!

Godaddycurse · Post #14 » by **Godaddycurse** » Thu Oct 23, 2025 1:12 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:
the_process wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:Miami is about to get an exception

They shouldn't. But you might be right.

Usually not an exception with stuff like this. I’d expect Miami to waive Rozier in short order for that immediate $1.74m in non guaranteed savings, and also applying for full removal from the cap. I don’t know that they could get the removal done before the deadline, as it usually requires adjudication of any cases/resolution rather than charges, but could happen before the end of the season?

can they get DPE since he cant play?

Post #15 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Thu Oct 23, 2025 1:14 pm

BBallFreak wrote:
the_process wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:Miami is about to get an exception

They shouldn't. But you might be right.

No, they should be able to void his contract. Remember the gambling happens when he was in charlotte, not miami. When Miami acquired him, they were under the impression that he was cleared. The NBA cleared him. That they've known the FBI stuff was coming they wouldn't have acquired him.

They had already acquired him before any allegations or investigations took place.

the_process · Post #16 » by **the_process** » Thu Oct 23, 2025 1:14 pm

BBallFreak wrote:
the_process wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:Miami is about to get an exception

They shouldn't. But you might be right.

No, they should be able to void his contract. Remember the gambling happens when he was in charlotte, not miami. When Miami acquired him, they were under the impression that he was cleared. The NBA cleared him. That they've known the FBI stuff was coming they wouldn't have acquired him.

Rozier was still under investigation this past summer.

Post #17 » by **BBallFreak** » Thu Oct 23, 2025 1:18 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:
the_process wrote:
They shouldn't. But you might be right.

No, they should be able to void his contract. Remember the gambling happens when he was in charlotte, not miami. When Miami acquired him, they were under the impression that he was cleared. The NBA cleared him. That they've known the FBI stuff was coming they wouldn't have acquired him.

They had already acquired him before any allegations or investigations took place.

Miami acquired him in January of 2024. The investigation into him started in March of 2023. He was cleared by the time Miami acquired him. The irregularities happened in charlotte. Miami had every reason to believe that he was not guilty.

Post #18 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Thu Oct 23, 2025 1:18 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:
the_process wrote:
They shouldn't. But you might be right.

Usually not an exception with stuff like this. I’d expect Miami to waive Rozier in short order for that immediate $1.74m in non guaranteed savings, and also applying for full removal from the cap. I don’t know that they could get the removal done before the deadline, as it usually requires adjudication of any cases/resolution rather than charges, but could happen before the end of the season?

can they get DPE since he cant play?

No. He’s physically able to play. He’s only unable to play as part of the league disciplinary process.

He would count toward an eventual hardship exception to sign an extra player (but no salary exception) if Miami had enough players out?

I would assume that Miami waived him soon, though.

Post #19 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Thu Oct 23, 2025 1:21 pm

BBallFreak wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:No, they should be able to void his contract. Remember the gambling happens when he was in charlotte, not miami. When Miami acquired him, they were under the impression that he was cleared. The NBA cleared him. That they've known the FBI stuff was coming they wouldn't have acquired him.

They had already acquired him before any allegations or investigations took place.

Miami acquired him in January of 2024. The investigation into him started in March of 2023. He was cleared by the time Miami acquired him. The irregularities happened in charlotte. Miami had every reason to believe that he was not guilty.

The fbi investigation started in 2023. The league investigation took place later, no? That’s the one that matters. The nba only “cleared” him this past July.

Post #20 » by **BBallFreak** » Thu Oct 23, 2025 1:27 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:
BBallFreak wrote:
Scoot McGroot wrote:

They had already acquired him before any allegations or investigations took place.

Miami acquired him in January of 2024. The investigation into him started in March of 2023. He was cleared by the time Miami acquired him. The irregularities happened in charlotte. Miami had every reason to believe that he was not guilty.

The fbi investigation started in 2023. The league investigation took place later, no? That’s the one that matters. The nba only “cleared” him this past July.

No, that's not how it happened.

The NBA investigated him in March of 2023 and cleared him. Miami acquired him. The FBI began investigating him in January of 2025.