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Re: Around the NBA (and other Sports), 2025-26, p. II 

Post#61 » by Parliament10 » Thu Oct 23, 2025 6:54 pm

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threrf23 wrote:Ok, so Rozier is an idiot who deserves jail time, if that bit is true. Or at best his friends are idiots who went out of their way to incriminate him. But, were his friends arrested?

Damon Jones was allegedly selling injury info to bettors.

But Chauncey got hunted by witches, IMO

It's a Witch Hunt, that could get political.
Steven A warns that the WNBA could be next.


What a "coincidence" that the FBI make their Arrests, as the NBA starts it's Season.



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It’s not a coincidence and they did that to expose gambling in sports. They don’t arrest people without evidence.

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Post#62 » by threrf23 » Thu Oct 23, 2025 6:54 pm

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Doubtful. Billups could come back and sue them. They gotta have something on billups.


I'm sure they technically have something on him.

It just sounds like the sort of thing that would usually go unpunished, and/or could have gone unpunished. And they arrested him at the same time as the others, so it would give the impression that he was betting on basketball games.
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Post#63 » by NYCelticsfan136 » Thu Oct 23, 2025 6:56 pm

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Doubtful. Billups could come back and sue them. They gotta have something on billups.


I'm sure they technically have something on him.

It just sounds like the sort of thing that would usually go unpunished, and/or could have gone unpunished. And they arrested him at the same time as the others, so it would give the impression that he was betting on basketball games.



This is undercover stuff and fbi involved.
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Post#64 » by Parliament10 » Thu Oct 23, 2025 6:56 pm

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threrf23 wrote:
NYCelticsfan136 wrote:

Doubtful. Billups could come back and sue them. They gotta have something on billups.


I'm sure they technically have something on him.

It just sounds like the sort of thing that would usually go unpunished, and/or could have gone unpunished. And they arrested him at the same time as the others, so it would give the impression that he was betting on basketball games.



This is undercover stuff and fbi involved.

Don't fall for that.
FBI isn't a Judge and Jury.

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Post#65 » by redslastlaugh » Thu Oct 23, 2025 7:03 pm

This Rozier revelation about his morals on cheating plus that he was cheating in partnership with the mob, makes me want to look up what was the bettor's line in game 7 2018 ECF against the Cavs.

Terry went 0-10 from 3 in that decisive game & missed some really questionable shots down the stretch that cost us the game.

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threrf23 wrote:you know, Rozier is accused of telling friends that he was going to be leaving a game early, but it's not clear that he intentionally asked to leave the game early? Might not be as bad as it sounds, if not, tough break for him. I agree with his attorney that they didn't have to arrest him publicly at the team's hotel.

Sounds like Billups agreed to show up at some poker games so that the organizers could advertise a chance to play against former NBA players. I doubt he knew what he was involving himself with. If I'm the Blazers, I stick by him.

Reports say that after Rozier told his friends, they place big bets and then met at Rozier's house after the game to divide up the winnings. Not good.


“One example occurred on March 23, 2023, in Charlotte. Terry Rozier, an NBA player now with the Miami Heat, but at the time playing for the Hornets, allegedly let others close to him know that he planned to leave the game early with a supposed injury. Using that information, members of the group placed more than $200,000 in wagers on his under statistics.

“Rozier exited the game after just nine minutes and those bets paid out generating tens of thousands of dollars in profit. The proceeds were later delivered to his home, where the group counted their cash.
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Post#66 » by threrf23 » Thu Oct 23, 2025 7:14 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:This Rozier revelation about his morals on cheating plus that he was cheating in partnership with the mob, makes me want to look up what was the bettor's line in game 7 2018 ECF against the Cavs.

Terry went 0-10 from 3 in that decisive game & missed some really questionable shots down the stretch that cost us the game.



He was also pretty terrible against the Bucks in '19, granted everyone was, but ignoring game 1 he shot 1/14 from 3. Granted I will give him the benefit of the doubt, trying to help throw a game 7 would have been really low, and unnecessary where sportsbooks accept bets on preseason games.
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Post#67 » by cloverleaf » Thu Oct 23, 2025 7:16 pm

threrf23 wrote:
NYCelticsfan136 wrote:

Doubtful. Billups could come back and sue them. They gotta have something on billups.


I'm sure they technically have something on him.

It just sounds like the sort of thing that would usually go unpunished, and/or could have gone unpunished. And they arrested him at the same time as the others, so it would give the impression that he was betting on basketball games.


What they allege on Billups is pretty bad and scummy: pulling in marks for mob-rigged poker games. And if he was doing that for the mob, there's a reasonable chance he was doing basketball info or stuff for the mob as well.
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Post#68 » by Parliament10 » Thu Oct 23, 2025 7:20 pm

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Post#69 » by threrf23 » Thu Oct 23, 2025 7:21 pm

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What they allege on Billups is pretty bad and scummy: pulling in marks for mob-rigged poker games. And if he was doing that for the mob, there's a reasonable chance he was doing basketball info or stuff for the mob as well.


I really have a hard time believing that hew knew he was doing that, knew the games were rigged, etc
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Post#70 » by Shak_Celts » Thu Oct 23, 2025 7:43 pm

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threrf23 wrote:Ok, so Rozier is an idiot who deserves jail time, if that bit is true. Or at best his friends are idiots who went out of their way to incriminate him. But, were his friends arrested?

Damon Jones was allegedly selling injury info to bettors.

But Chauncey got hunted by witches, IMO

It's a Witch Hunt, that could get political.
Steven A warns that the WNBA could be next.


What a "coincidence" that the FBI make their Arrests, as the NBA starts it's Season.



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It’s not a coincidence and they did that to expose gambling in sports. They don’t arrest people without evidence.

I’m trying to saying this as respectfully as possible. Is this serious?
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Post#71 » by Shak_Celts » Thu Oct 23, 2025 7:47 pm

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NYCelticsfan136 wrote:
Parliament10 wrote:It's a Witch Hunt, that could get political.
Steven A warns that the WNBA could be next.


What a "coincidence" that the FBI make their Arrests, as the NBA starts it's Season.



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It’s not a coincidence and they did that to expose gambling in sports. They don’t arrest people without evidence.

Riiight.
Let's see if they can Convict.

An arrest isn't actual Guilt.


This is the same incident Rozier was already investigated for and they didn’t find anything credible, IINM. Now all of a sudden they have credible evidence? My pupils are in the back of my head. I don’t buy it, but I’m not going to discuss why.

You’re doing a good job of being nicer than I would Parl. So I’m going to keep some opinions to myself. I don’t mean to the posters, just about the subject in general. The clown show we have been witnessing!
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Post#72 » by Shak_Celts » Thu Oct 23, 2025 7:52 pm

redslastlaugh wrote:This Rozier revelation about his morals on cheating plus that he was cheating in partnership with the mob, makes me want to look up what was the bettor's line in game 7 2018 ECF against the Cavs.

Terry went 0-10 from 3 in that decisive game & missed some really questionable shots down the stretch that cost us the game.

Celts17Pride wrote:
threrf23 wrote:you know, Rozier is accused of telling friends that he was going to be leaving a game early, but it's not clear that he intentionally asked to leave the game early? Might not be as bad as it sounds, if not, tough break for him. I agree with his attorney that they didn't have to arrest him publicly at the team's hotel.

Sounds like Billups agreed to show up at some poker games so that the organizers could advertise a chance to play against former NBA players. I doubt he knew what he was involving himself with. If I'm the Blazers, I stick by him.

Reports say that after Rozier told his friends, they place big bets and then met at Rozier's house after the game to divide up the winnings. Not good.


“One example occurred on March 23, 2023, in Charlotte. Terry Rozier, an NBA player now with the Miami Heat, but at the time playing for the Hornets, allegedly let others close to him know that he planned to leave the game early with a supposed injury. Using that information, members of the group placed more than $200,000 in wagers on his under statistics.

“Rozier exited the game after just nine minutes and those bets paid out generating tens of thousands of dollars in profit. The proceeds were later delivered to his home, where the group counted their cash.

Meh, JB was just as bad, when they were excellent in game 6, when we should have won, if Tatum didn’t lay an egg. Is Tatum and Brown in on it too? :lol:

I don’t know if he did it this go round. He was cleared of this same incident before. I just know it wasn’t even a thing back then.
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Post#73 » by Shak_Celts » Thu Oct 23, 2025 7:56 pm

Parliament10 wrote:
NYCelticsfan136 wrote:
threrf23 wrote:
I'm sure they technically have something on him.

It just sounds like the sort of thing that would usually go unpunished, and/or could have gone unpunished. And they arrested him at the same time as the others, so it would give the impression that he was betting on basketball games.



This is undercover stuff and fbi involved.

Don't fall for that.
FBI isn't a Judge and Jury.

Don´t jump the gun.


They may be right on these things, who knows, but why are we pretending that these institutions are on the up and up?? The FBI, CIA, or PB&J I don’t trust them after all the years I been on this earth! Okay, I like a good PB&J, still remains, A CLOWN SHOW! Agendas on top of agendas!!
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Post#74 » by Curmudgeon » Thu Oct 23, 2025 9:26 pm

So when is the NBA store going to start selling Toronto Rangers paraphernalia?
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Post#75 » by threrf23 » Thu Oct 23, 2025 10:39 pm

hmm

https://old.reddit.com/r/ripcity/comments/13lbu55/chauncey_allegedly_scammed_people_out_of/

Matt: There are a lot of stories about it. There's one that cropped up, must've been like 5 years ago, 2019ish I think? 4 years ago? Where there was this game, it started in LA and then it came to Vegas for a few days, and it was all built around Chauncey Billups. And I had heard about the game, and the person who told me about it was like "Look, I know the game runners, I am telling you 100% this game is on the up-and-up." And I was like "Well, I know a lot of the people that are involved and I am telling you 100% that it is NOT on the up-and-up."

We kind of went back and forth and I agreed that I just wasn't going to go play. But I had some friends who went and played it both in LA and in Vegas, and it obviously was like, for sure confirmed to be cheated. Like people who clearly didn't even understand the rules of No Limit Hold'em are just jamming hundreds of big blinds with a gutty and then just drilling it.1 [laughs] Only the pros are losing...

Conrad: How was it figured out?

Matt: I can't remember if this was the game where...

Conrad: The loudspeaker? No... that was Pierce [referring to a different cheating story involving Paul Pierce]

Matt: Oh, okay. Well it's still, it's not like Chauncey and Pierce don't know each other [laughs]. I feel like it's probably the same crowd overlapping there, but maybe not. Either way, it was basically confirmed amongst all the pros that the game was cheated but here's just no recourse. And just, you know, they got absolutely flayed.

Conrad: Yeah, there's no recourse in a lot of these situations.

Matt: Well it's tough too whenever you're dealing with someone high profile like that, because they carry a lot of weight and hold a lot of power, so all you can do is unite together and threaten to publicly out him or extort him in some sort of capacity, in which case... good luck. It's like, this guy beat rape charges. You think he cares about you calling him a cheater?

Conrad: Yeah, I mean it's like... most people cheat and come prepared for a situation when it does happen. So you just can't really out them. When they're there, you don't want to call them out in public--

Matt: Well what's crazy to me is that some of the guys I'm friends with that played the game kept going back, not fully convinced. Just like "These guys are so bad, man. So bad!" Yeah man, they know what's **** coming, man. You don't have to be good if you can know the deck start to finish. Of course they look bad, they're putting it in with no equity knowing that they're going to win the **** hand. Pretty tough you know?
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Post#76 » by cloverleaf » Thu Oct 23, 2025 11:34 pm

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cloverleaf wrote:
What they allege on Billups is pretty bad and scummy: pulling in marks for mob-rigged poker games. And if he was doing that for the mob, there's a reasonable chance he was doing basketball info or stuff for the mob as well.


I really have a hard time believing that hew knew he was doing that, knew the games were rigged, etc


There's no way they would have made such a public arrest without significant hard evidence.
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Post#77 » by threrf23 » Fri Oct 24, 2025 12:01 am

cloverleaf wrote:
threrf23 wrote:
cloverleaf wrote:
What they allege on Billups is pretty bad and scummy: pulling in marks for mob-rigged poker games. And if he was doing that for the mob, there's a reasonable chance he was doing basketball info or stuff for the mob as well.


I really have a hard time believing that hew knew he was doing that, knew the games were rigged, etc


There's no way they would have made such a public arrest without significant hard evidence.


They don't need any evidence that he knew what he was doing if it isn't required to arrest him for doing it
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Post#78 » by Shak_Celts » Fri Oct 24, 2025 12:26 am

cloverleaf wrote:
threrf23 wrote:
cloverleaf wrote:
What they allege on Billups is pretty bad and scummy: pulling in marks for mob-rigged poker games. And if he was doing that for the mob, there's a reasonable chance he was doing basketball info or stuff for the mob as well.


I really have a hard time believing that hew knew he was doing that, knew the games were rigged, etc

There's no way they would have made such a public arrest without significant hard evidence.

Have you seen who has been arrested lately? Hard evidence is not the criteria. Even if they have evidence against Billups and the players, the FBI arrests plenty of people without hard evidence. They have built cases out or thin air!!! This is proven. Can’t trust local or the Feds! Corruption knows no bounds.

They just made public arrests of people just about a month or so ago, who had no connection to the crime. I feel like I’m in the upside down. Arresting government officials without evidence!


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Post#79 » by redslastlaugh » Fri Oct 24, 2025 1:34 am

OKC versus Indiana on ESPN and Brooks Barnhizer (14 min) and Taelon Peter (10 min) are playing minutes in a tight ball game between last years finalists.

Does this bode well for Amari Williams getting some run tomorrow? Other 2nd round picks taken in 40s and 50s getting minutes in primetime?? lol
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Post#80 » by cloverleaf » Fri Oct 24, 2025 2:17 am

threrf23 wrote:
cloverleaf wrote:
threrf23 wrote:
I really have a hard time believing that hew knew he was doing that, knew the games were rigged, etc


There's no way they would have made such a public arrest without significant hard evidence.


They don't need any evidence that he knew what he was doing if it isn't required to arrest him for doing it


Except that's not the case.

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