How many years are we away from sports betting becoming a national epidemic?

[dhsilv2]

I think the best you can really do is educate and put out the real facts and let people decide for themselves. There has been a significant drop in smoking and drinking over the years especially among the younger generation as they have learned how unhealthy it is. You might see a similar thing happen with online gambling eventually one day once it's sort of normalized in our culture and isn't more of a newer thing like it is now.

The alternative is an authoritarian regime which controls everything.

We also pushed back on the marketing for these things to kids. Running gambling ads on the radio, tv, putting it on the court and so on isn't doing that. ESPN doesn't have their host smoking and talking about how great their brand is while throwing back Johny Walker. But they're doing essentially the same thing with betting.

Are kids even the demographic for that stuff? I would say probably not. Gen Z and younger isn't listening to radio or tuning into tv much, they're almost all strictly internet which is a totally different beast. Social media marketing/advertising is where I would look at more as far as impact on kids.

I would also point to social acceptance of gambling/stock trading being the main culprit in it's rise in popularity.

As I just posted, we have major youtube influences who audiences are younger pushing this stuff massively.

[dhsilv2]

Most adults know how to control themselves. A few who can't doesn't make for an epidemics. Greed has been around since forever, and the whole "addiction" excuse is something they can cope with their therapist about. These people know right from wrong

Ah yes...because addicts are all seeing a therapist and can afford one.

[pavementplmokn]

Already an epidemic. Working on my own recovery from gambling addiction currently, anyone please message me if you’re having gambling problems.

[PushDaRock]

We also pushed back on the marketing for these things to kids. Running gambling ads on the radio, tv, putting it on the court and so on isn't doing that. ESPN doesn't have their host smoking and talking about how great their brand is while throwing back Johny Walker. But they're doing essentially the same thing with betting.

Are kids even the demographic for that stuff? I would say probably not. Gen Z and younger isn't listening to radio or tuning into tv much, they're almost all strictly internet which is a totally different beast. Social media marketing/advertising is where I would look at more as far as impact on kids.

I would also point to social acceptance of gambling/stock trading being the main culprit in it's rise in popularity.

As I just posted, we have major youtube influences who audiences are younger pushing this stuff massively.

Who's responsibility is it here though to "police" it? Government? Youtube? The influencer? Parents?

[jezzerinho]

Don't you mean "weeks"?

[dhsilv2]

Are kids even the demographic for that stuff? I would say probably not. Gen Z and younger isn't listening to radio or tuning into tv much, they're almost all strictly internet which is a totally different beast. Social media marketing/advertising is where I would look at more as far as impact on kids.

I would also point to social acceptance of gambling/stock trading being the main culprit in it's rise in popularity.

As I just posted, we have major youtube influences who audiences are younger pushing this stuff massively.

Who's responsibility is it here though to "police" it? Government? Youtube? The influencer? Parents?

Only way to do it is through government. Again, we're just saying they should regulate ads for this the same way we already do with smoking. It's not additional effort or work really.

[Mavrelous]

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[Johnny Bball]

Trickle up economics at its finest.

I've long agreed that lotteries are nothing but a tax on the poor.

And the rakes and lines from some or all of these sites get individually tailored and jacked up to any semi-consistent winners, making this just the same.

[PushDaRock]

As I just posted, we have major youtube influences who audiences are younger pushing this stuff massively.

Who's responsibility is it here though to "police" it? Government? Youtube? The influencer? Parents?

Only way to do it is through government. Again, we're just saying they should regulate ads for this the same way we already do with smoking. It's not additional effort or work really.

Do you ban lottery ads as well in this case?

[PushDaRock]

Trickle up economics at its finest.

I've long agreed that lotteries are nothing but a tax on the poor.

And the rakes and lines from some or all of these sites get individually tailored and jacked up to any semi-consistent winners, making this just the same.

It's pretty gross what these sites are allowed to do, but it's part of the game if you're an advantage sports bettor. They can stop taking your bets, limit your amounts, kick you off and etc. No different than at a Casino which isn't forced to take your action either.

[meekrab]

Like, negative years. My just out of college colleagues are already addicted to betting on their football teams.

[ConSarnit]

I think the best you can really do is educate and put out the real facts and let people decide for themselves. There has been a significant drop in smoking and drinking over the years especially among the younger generation as they have learned how unhealthy it is. You might see a similar thing happen with online gambling eventually one day once it's sort of normalized in our culture and isn't more of a newer thing like it is now.

The alternative is an authoritarian regime which controls everything.

We also pushed back on the marketing for these things to kids. Running gambling ads on the radio, tv, putting it on the court and so on isn't doing that. ESPN doesn't have their host smoking and talking about how great their brand is while throwing back Johny Walker. But they're doing essentially the same thing with betting.

Are kids even the demographic for that stuff? I would say probably not. Gen Z and younger isn't listening to radio or tuning into tv much, they're almost all strictly internet which is a totally different beast. Social media marketing/advertising is where I would look at more as far as impact on kids.

I would also point to social acceptance of gambling/stock trading being the main culprit in it's rise in popularity.

Doesn’t ease of access play a part? Drugs/alcohol at least require some type of effort to acquire. Now that cell phones are ubiquitous you can gamble 24/7.

How many more drug addicts would there be if your cupboard was consistently stocked with heroin? Probably a lot more.

As far as vice’s go gambling is by far the easiest to access. The entry point is also by far the easiest as gambling companies will give you bonus offers (free money) to join.

[PushDaRock]

We also pushed back on the marketing for these things to kids. Running gambling ads on the radio, tv, putting it on the court and so on isn't doing that. ESPN doesn't have their host smoking and talking about how great their brand is while throwing back Johny Walker. But they're doing essentially the same thing with betting.

Are kids even the demographic for that stuff? I would say probably not. Gen Z and younger isn't listening to radio or tuning into tv much, they're almost all strictly internet which is a totally different beast. Social media marketing/advertising is where I would look at more as far as impact on kids.

I would also point to social acceptance of gambling/stock trading being the main culprit in it's rise in popularity.

Doesn’t ease of access play a part? Drugs/alcohol at least require some type of effort to acquire. Now that cell phones are ubiquitous you can gamble 24/7.

How many more drug addicts would there be if your cupboard was consistently stocked with heroin? Probably a lot more.

As far as vice’s go gambling is by far the easiest to access. The entry point is also by far the easiest as gambling companies will give you bonus offers (free money) to join.

Yeah, of course that plays a part. Ease of access to anything makes you more likely to take part in or consume something. The question is whether it should be up to the individual to decide or whether people should need to be protected from themselves?

Personally, I hate pretty much all advertising so if they did get rid of it, I couldn't care less. I'm unsure of the impact it would have though, might slow it down a bit but I think gambling/speculation as a trend is here to stay especially as everything gets hyper financialized.

[dhsilv2]

Who's responsibility is it here though to "police" it? Government? Youtube? The influencer? Parents?

Only way to do it is through government. Again, we're just saying they should regulate ads for this the same way we already do with smoking. It's not additional effort or work really.

Do you ban lottery ads as well in this case?

Trying to remember seeing one...but I think much like a beer ad. It's ok to have them. It's not ok for them to be in settings that are likely to be seen by kids. Youtube already has a filter you just say your content isn't for kids and then you can talk about alcohol for example. I'd say the lottery should be the same thing.

[BrianInPhilly]

I do sports betting but ethically I see how it is hurting a lot of people right now. I have discipline, strategy, etc so it’s different - but even me if I lose a bit I do start to question if I should continue or if it is hurting me. DraftKings and mist every site at least are very transparent about how much you win / lose. You can easily check your yearly or lifetime stats from account page - I’m in the green, but I would advise anybody to check that to see if you’re in the red and losing because for some they can be blinded by their wins and not realize they’re losing a ton too.

I’ll add this too - I typically bet only 1-3 bets at most each night (Ex: Tonight Bryce Sensabaugh 12+ p, -117 I did. 12+ in all 5 games this year including preseason. Book is underrating his scoring imo based off last years yearly stats not realizing he’s trending up) ... This yields more confidence in the bet. Unless you’re a professional gambler, using math, etc - those that bet 50+ bets a night are in the end just gonna lose because no way you’re gonna come out ahead with that strategy. Book always wins in the end UNLESS there is very specific strategy, and calculated bets placed. I never just bet based off gut/instinct , that has to be combined with statistical predictions too.

[threethehardway]

Sports betting is stupid.

The house always wins, they wouldn't provide you the service if you are a winning player.

If you aren't being limited, you aren't a good bettor.

And yes, sports betting is already national epidemic in America.

America is a casino, not a country.

[PushDaRock]

Only way to do it is through government. Again, we're just saying they should regulate ads for this the same way we already do with smoking. It's not additional effort or work really.

Do you ban lottery ads as well in this case?

Trying to remember seeing one...but I think much like a beer ad. It's ok to have them. It's not ok for them to be in settings that are likely to be seen by kids. Youtube already has a filter you just say your content isn't for kids and then you can talk about alcohol for example. I'd say the lottery should be the same thing.

Well, there definitely are lottery ads on TV.

I think there's already a filter to opt out of seeing gambling ads on Youtube. When they put the ad in the actual video itself though, you need 3rd party software to skip it like SponsorBlock.

[Clay Davis]

It already is. Leaders across every religion have long banned it. Armies have historically banned it.

What's worrisome is that betting is taking off in an age of rising income inequality, surveillance, rising hedonism, and concerted efforts to destroy the middle class.

It is a blight upon blights. The killing of rizz by the slaying of hearts and a person's ability to provide and perceive how to live gainfully.

[dhsilv2]

Do you ban lottery ads as well in this case?

Trying to remember seeing one...but I think much like a beer ad. It's ok to have them. It's not ok for them to be in settings that are likely to be seen by kids. Youtube already has a filter you just say your content isn't for kids and then you can talk about alcohol for example. I'd say the lottery should be the same thing.

Well, there definitely are lottery ads on TV.

I think there's already a filter to opt out of seeing gambling ads on Youtube. When they put the ad in the actual video itself though, you need 3rd party software to skip it like SponsorBlock.

Well, if youtube were to not allow monetization if there's an ad for that product. Problem solved. Again already done for alcohol. And if there are lottery ads ok. But are there lottery ads on nicalodean?

[ReddoverKobe]

None, it already is