This scandal proves the lottery was rigged

[Capn'O]

I still wanna know why people would think the 28 other teams would agree to this

Cause that's what you guys are arguing, that every team thinks Luka going to the Lakers in exchange for Dallas jumping to #1 is good for them

Why would, for example, Steve Ballmer want this?

I'm not at all committed to this argument but the counter would be that in a league with revenue sharing a rising tide lifts all boats. So in this case the rising tide would be augmenting an anchor franchise in LAL while keeping interest in a major market (Dallas) bringing more interest to the league as a whole. And it wouldn't be the first example of this (Davis).

[Cubbies2120]

Peeps still think it's not rigged .

Yeah E&Y ($50b revenue annually) is willing to lose all that for what's likely a $1m engagement (if that) w/ the NBA...

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/8jnmgr/reminder_on_how_the_lottery_is_verified_and_why/

[The4thHorseman]

OP rigged this thread

[52-12-7]

This doesn't necessarily prove the lottery is rigged (it's rigged btw), but it proves the league is corrupt as it can be. They knew about Rosier and Jone's scandals, but tried to sweep it under the rug, just like they are trying to do with Kawhi's scandal.

[pepe1991]

If there is one thing I have learned in the past 9-10 years is that the American people love a conspiracy theory.

Well... In league where:
Owner wires money via third company to pay player under a table
League where head coach plays poker for mafia to scam other millionaires
League where upper level role player is betting on nba games

It's hard to find line that can't be crossed. Especially how muted other owners are about all this.

At the end of a day, owners have shared revenue. And lot of owners don't own teams because their love for a game but for money and money.

League is probably making more money when some Lakers & Celtics are on top than when Grizzlies & Hornets are. That's just reality.

League may or may not has rigged lottery. In span of 6 years two teams gave up top 5 players to Lakers and won lottery after. Coincidence?

After Lebron left them, Cavs kept winning lottery. Coincidence?

When league couldn't sell Pelicans, they won lottery / AD. Coincidence?

May or may not be. But for damn sure, last 13 years lot of coincidences happened. Like... almost every draft. In mean time Nets, Hornets and Wizards, resident lottery members:

[Broadcaster]

I still wanna know why people would think the 28 other teams would agree to this

Cause that's what you guys are arguing, that every team thinks Luka going to the Lakers in exchange for Dallas jumping to #1 is good for them

Why would, for example, Steve Ballmer want this?

Because it’s a business first. What’s good for the business is good for everyone’s bottom line. Competition matters less than money.

[DOT]

I still wanna know why people would think the 28 other teams would agree to this

Cause that's what you guys are arguing, that every team thinks Luka going to the Lakers in exchange for Dallas jumping to #1 is good for them

Why would, for example, Steve Ballmer want this?

Lol don't do this to yourself. The people who think it's rigged will ignore the effectively impossible logistics of rigging the lottery and then laugh at you for not agreeing because "it's obvious".

The way the lottery works is kind of set up perfectly to breed conspiracy theories about rigging

Cause, at least now, the best odds you can get are 14%. Meaning there's at least an 86% chance that any team doesn't get the #1 pick

Every single outcome is unlikely, meaning no matter what happens, people can use the unlikeliness to push a narrative. New York is by far the biggest city in the US, yet the Knicks have not moved up in the draft once since 1985. Yet people will unironically say things like the league rigged it for the 54th largest city, which had 4% of the population of NYC at the time, to get Zion and somehow twist that into evidence the league is rigging things for big markets

[PushDaRock]

I still wanna know why people would think the 28 other teams would agree to this

Cause that's what you guys are arguing, that every team thinks Luka going to the Lakers in exchange for Dallas jumping to #1 is good for them

Why would, for example, Steve Ballmer want this?

Lol don't do this to yourself. The people who think it's rigged will ignore the effectively impossible logistics of rigging the lottery and then laugh at you for not agreeing because "it's obvious".

The way the lottery works is kind of set up perfectly to breed conspiracy theories about rigging

Cause, at least now, the best odds you can get are 14%. Meaning there's at least an 86% chance that any team doesn't get the #1 pick

Every single outcome is unlikely, meaning no matter what happens, people can use the unlikeliness to push a narrative. New York is by far the biggest city in the US, yet the Knicks have not moved up in the draft once since 1985. Yet people will unironically say things like the league rigged it for the 54th largest city, which had 4% of the population of NYC at the time, to get Zion and somehow twist that into evidence the league is rigging things for big markets

Yeah, but they gave Zion to the Pelicans because they knew he wasn't going to be able to stay on the court and to not make it so obvious it's rigged

[LuDux1]

If there is one thing I have learned in the past 9-10 years is that the American people love a conspiracy theory.

Watch on YouTube

[Handlez]

You needed this latest scandal to know the league rigs things?

They literally fixed the 16 finals to go 7.

[og15]

It being rigged was already obvious enough without this. You really don't need this to have happened to see that it's rigged. The whole thing of releasing a video where people pick balls and then after they pick the balls they say, "These balls meant this team, TRUST US" is just so cringe. But yes I guess having people get arrested is funny.

Are you sure you know how the lottery works, because this is not it

[og15]

I still wanna know why people would think the 28 other teams would agree to this

Cause that's what you guys are arguing, that every team thinks Luka going to the Lakers in exchange for Dallas jumping to #1 is good for them

Why would, for example, Steve Ballmer want this?

Because it’s a business first. What’s good for the business is good for everyone’s bottom line. Competition matters less than money.

...this works if all the owners have the same goal. It's clear a guy like Ballmer for example doesn't care about how much money he gets from shared profits, he's richer than the whole NBA organization combined, so how would one get him on board. You can have a rigged philosophy, but it better be a lot better than, "well everyone wants to make money together".

[mrmsix6]

If there is one thing I have learned in the past 9-10 years is that the American people love a conspiracy theory.

There would be less interest in conspiracy theories if so many of them turned out not to be theories at all.

Mind you, even the modern usage of 'conspiracy theory' and 'conspiracy theorist' as a pejorative to discredit people was popularized by official CIA policy in 1967 (Dispatch 1035-960) to counter people critical of the JFK assassination investigation and Warren Commission.

[316Hornets]

Money seems to ruin everything. These are some of the best athletes in the world and you would expect some humility. It might be best to look at other sports or just wait for the Olympics if you want wholesome.

[Collymore]

you have this massive scandal coming to light now with dudes getting arrested and mob activity. The league is corrupt all the way up to the top. There's no doubt in my mind now this past years lottery was rigged. Dallas did a favor for the league by getting a young marketable superstar to the leagues favorite franchise to make the lakers relevant again. At the time it seemed like one of the worst trades in NBA history. All the while the Lakers, mavs and the league had a handshake deal to throw flagg to the Mavericks in exchange for making the lakers relevant again. Disagree with me all you want, but the NBA is no longer a legitimate league. It's on par with WWE.

i don't think the word proves means what you think it means

[Rainwater]

Man oh man, everyone has a opinion

[LockoutSeason]

You needed this latest scandal to know the league rigs things?

They literally fixed the 16 finals to go 7.

How?

[WiggOuts]

Tying these two things together almost diminishes all the other obvious reasons to know the NBA is rigged. All this tells you is the integrity of the game has never been whole

[Bergmaniac]

When all you have is a hammer...

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[JN61]

Billups being involved in an illegal poker game and then telling someone he’s resting starters doesn’t prove that the NBA rigged the lottery.

Like, a police officer may be corrupt, but that doesn’t prove that 9/11 was an inside job carried out by the police.

That analogy might be some of the lowest effort slop I've seen for a while.

Just because my grandma used to cook some juice it doesn't mean NBA draft wasn't inside job.