and %..eyriq wrote:Keeping experience/age constant AB will very likely match their year 3 stats. Not nearly the gap you make it out to be. The main differentiator will be mpg.tooler wrote:eyriq wrote:Dyson $25M AAV
Braun $25M AAV
Camara $20.5 AAV
Quite aware of recent market trends
Here's a comparison of year 2 of AB (and Camara since he's at the same point) with year 3 of Braun and Dyson to give an idea of the level he needs to hit this season to get a similar extension.
Long way to go. I wish him good luck. That would mean two strong seasons still on the rookie scale.
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Nope, AB can shoot nowfendilim wrote:and %..eyriq wrote:Keeping experience/age constant AB will very likely match their year 3 stats. Not nearly the gap you make it out to be. The main differentiator will be mpg.tooler wrote:Here's a comparison of year 2 of AB (and Camara since he's at the same point) with year 3 of Braun and Dyson to give an idea of the level he needs to hit this season to get a similar extension.
Long way to go. I wish him good luck. That would mean two strong seasons still on the rookie scale.
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eyriq wrote:Nope, AB can shoot nowfendilim wrote:and %..eyriq wrote:Keeping experience/age constant AB will very likely match their year 3 stats. Not nearly the gap you make it out to be. The main differentiator will be mpg.
Everyone can, what are the chances of him making it tho?

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fendilim wrote:eyriq wrote:Nope, AB can shoot nowfendilim wrote:and %..
Everyone can, what are the chances of him making it tho?
He’s also facing a battle for minutes on his own roster now…after the Bane trade, there will likely be no handholding development time. Daniel’s exploded on ATL, maybe AB can too.
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eyriq wrote:What people don't appreciate is that AB is a very similar player with several advantages. AB is bigger, the better playmaker, applies more rim pressure, is more versatile on defense, and is right on target as a shooter. He doesn't have Suggs assertiveness on offense but we don't need that, see the Desmond Bane trade.
Is it just me or does AB's handle look a little better this year? Looks like he's been working on it.
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Regarding AB and Suggs, I do not even think we have the luxury of a debate. Why? It depends on what the opposite team wants. AB is younger and more upside. But upside is upside and Suggs has injury concern, however, he is all defensive team. Which ever has more value? I do not think we can even decide on this.
However, I go back to my original point. Starting next year when Paolo's rookie extension kicks in, we won't stand still. Why? Because the second apron thing is really going to hurt us. Plus the poison pill rule on AB's potential rookie extension is going to kick in. And that is going to hurt even more if we choose to extend him.
However, the different direction we will go is going to depend on how we do this season. If we can make a deep playoff run, we might choose to go Run it back as much as we can. If somehow we have an early exit and didn't meet what we expect, I really do think some big trade is going to happen with both of the Motives I mentioned.
Let's Win first and then worry about how we going to PAY the roster. However, changes are always welcomed.
However, I go back to my original point. Starting next year when Paolo's rookie extension kicks in, we won't stand still. Why? Because the second apron thing is really going to hurt us. Plus the poison pill rule on AB's potential rookie extension is going to kick in. And that is going to hurt even more if we choose to extend him.
However, the different direction we will go is going to depend on how we do this season. If we can make a deep playoff run, we might choose to go Run it back as much as we can. If somehow we have an early exit and didn't meet what we expect, I really do think some big trade is going to happen with both of the Motives I mentioned.
Let's Win first and then worry about how we going to PAY the roster. However, changes are always welcomed.
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I think we do have the assets to make the next roster move. But that is the decision of the front office also. I do not like buddy ball. I just wish the front office can really evaluate and make the best decision for the team. If somehow we can retain the most of our core plus getting the next Dez, perfect!
But it depends on the commitment of the management. Are they all in or not? And the end point should just be a common sense, which is Championship!
I have brought up the Giannis possibility many times. Or anther one? What if Jokic does not want to stay in Denver also? A wild card one could be Zion.
Or on a smaller scale, could it be LeMelo Ball or Trae Young?
All the big names out there definitely. Or it could be some role players.
It all seems like a gamble. And I do realize none of those could be not feasible for us as of now thinking we have Dez, Franz and Paolo, which is good enough. But how good? Can we get thru the next hurdle into contention plus possibly win ONE.
But again? Two motives side to side. Improve the team's talent level plus avoiding the second apron.
We are not doing a trade because of a trade. We do it in order to W the whole thing!
But it depends on the commitment of the management. Are they all in or not? And the end point should just be a common sense, which is Championship!
I have brought up the Giannis possibility many times. Or anther one? What if Jokic does not want to stay in Denver also? A wild card one could be Zion.
Or on a smaller scale, could it be LeMelo Ball or Trae Young?
All the big names out there definitely. Or it could be some role players.
It all seems like a gamble. And I do realize none of those could be not feasible for us as of now thinking we have Dez, Franz and Paolo, which is good enough. But how good? Can we get thru the next hurdle into contention plus possibly win ONE.
But again? Two motives side to side. Improve the team's talent level plus avoiding the second apron.
We are not doing a trade because of a trade. We do it in order to W the whole thing!
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Isaac, Jett, and Tyus are all like expiring contracts. We have a decision on Jett by 10/31 and a decision on Isaac by 7/6/26.
I could see Isaac requesting a trade to a team who would be willing to pick up his option. A team like Washington would make sense. They don't need to worry about their cap for a few years.
I think if the Magic waived Isaac before 7/6/26, then he still gets $8m.
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I could see Isaac requesting a trade to a team who would be willing to pick up his option. A team like Washington would make sense. They don't need to worry about their cap for a few years.
I think if the Magic waived Isaac before 7/6/26, then he still gets $8m.
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Isaac, Jett, and Tyus for Simons. It matches up almost to the dollar.
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basketballRob wrote:Isaac, Jett, and Tyus are all like expiring contracts. We have a decision on Jett by 10/31 and a decision on Isaac by 7/6/26.
I could see Isaac requesting a trade to a team who would be willing to pick up his option. A team like Washington would make sense. They don't need to worry about their cap for a few years.
I think if the Magic waived Isaac before 7/6/26, then he still gets $8m.
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he would also need to only play in 57 or less games...yet he played a game of 30 seconds and played in all 3 games
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We could just waive him before 7/6/26 and pay him $8m. His 2025-26 is fully guaranteed, and it doesn't matter if he doesn't play. If we pick up his option, he'll need to play so many games next season.orlando_joe wrote:basketballRob wrote:Isaac, Jett, and Tyus are all like expiring contracts. We have a decision on Jett by 10/31 and a decision on Isaac by 7/6/26.
I could see Isaac requesting a trade to a team who would be willing to pick up his option. A team like Washington would make sense. They don't need to worry about their cap for a few years.
I think if the Magic waived Isaac before 7/6/26, then he still gets $8m.
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he would also need to only play in 57 or less games...yet he played a game of 30 seconds and played in all 3 games
I would imagine that Isaac, Jett, and Tyus will all be gone next season. Maybe they just let Isaac ride the bench and pay him $8m a year for his last 2 seasons.
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basketballRob wrote:We could just waive him before 7/6/26 and pay him $8m. His 2025-26 is fully guaranteed, and it doesn't matter if he doesn't play. If we pick up his option, he'll need to play so many games next season.orlando_joe wrote:basketballRob wrote:Isaac, Jett, and Tyus are all like expiring contracts. We have a decision on Jett by 10/31 and a decision on Isaac by 7/6/26.
I could see Isaac requesting a trade to a team who would be willing to pick up his option. A team like Washington would make sense. They don't need to worry about their cap for a few years.
I think if the Magic waived Isaac before 7/6/26, then he still gets $8m.
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he would also need to only play in 57 or less games...yet he played a game of 30 seconds and played in all 3 games
I would imagine that Isaac, Jett, and Tyus will all be gone next season. Maybe they just let Isaac ride the bench and pay him $8m a year for his last 2 seasons.
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i could be wrong but i think if he plays in 58 games or more in 25/26 then 26/27 is fully guaranteed no matter waive date guarantee
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He has to play the required number of games, and we need to pick up his option. So, you're right. The number of games he plays this year affects next year's guaranteed salary, but we could always opt out.orlando_joe wrote:basketballRob wrote:We could just waive him before 7/6/26 and pay him $8m. His 2025-26 is fully guaranteed, and it doesn't matter if he doesn't play. If we pick up his option, he'll need to play so many games next season.orlando_joe wrote:he would also need to only play in 57 or less games...yet he played a game of 30 seconds and played in all 3 games
I would imagine that Isaac, Jett, and Tyus will all be gone next season. Maybe they just let Isaac ride the bench and pay him $8m a year for his last 2 seasons.
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i could be wrong but i think if he plays in 58 games or more in 25/26 then 26/27 is fully guaranteed no matter waive date guarantee
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orlando_joe wrote:basketballRob wrote:We could just waive him before 7/6/26 and pay him $8m. His 2025-26 is fully guaranteed, and it doesn't matter if he doesn't play. If we pick up his option, he'll need to play so many games next season.orlando_joe wrote:he would also need to only play in 57 or less games...yet he played a game of 30 seconds and played in all 3 games
I would imagine that Isaac, Jett, and Tyus will all be gone next season. Maybe they just let Isaac ride the bench and pay him $8m a year for his last 2 seasons.
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i could be wrong but i think if he plays in 58 games or more in 25/26 then 26/27 is fully guaranteed no matter waive date guarantee
Hmmm kinda makes it look a little suspicious why Isaac might only be playing a couple of minutes in these last games total. Like he’s not good enough to play BUT going to make sure he meets requirements for that contract.
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basketballRob wrote:Isaac, Jett, and Tyus for Simons. It matches up almost to the dollar.
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How exciting for BOS...they'll be happy with Simons' play or just his expiring.
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We might have restrictions that wouldn't allow us to do that deal. I do think Boston is interested in getting rid of Simons, and they need a big.Skybox wrote:basketballRob wrote:Isaac, Jett, and Tyus for Simons. It matches up almost to the dollar.
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How exciting for BOS...they'll be happy with Simons' play or just his expiring.
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