PG: ohh no, we suck again!

[TakeYourHeart]

I always hear how scottie plays up to his competition. Lebron. Kd. Etc.

What's a bigger matchup for him than giannis?

17/5/3? I didn't see that tonight at all. Not expecting him to outplay giannis but the way everyone talks about scottie in certain matchups I'd have expected more agression...

Also those lebron/kd matchups were in his rookie year. Maybe 2nd. but the reputation has stuck i guess... wishful thinking?

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After Giannis hit a 3 Scottie legit checked out. He spent the next 2 possessions trying to get a 3 of his own. It doesn't even matter that he made the 2nd one, actual basketball process abandoned him as a started jacking up 3s to prove to Giannis he could do it too. He got caught up in some bizarro game within the game with Giannis.

[Basketball_Jones]

I always hear how scottie plays up to his competition. Lebron. Kd. Etc.

What's a bigger matchup for him than giannis?

17/5/3? I didn't see that tonight at all. Not expecting him to outplay giannis but the way everyone talks about scottie in certain matchups I'd have expected more agression...

Also those lebron/kd matchups were in his rookie year. Maybe 2nd. but the reputation has stuck i guess... wishful thinking?

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Scottie plays well when he has better players to hide behind. When his number is called he gets punked like by CJ McCollum 2-3 years ago or he hits some flukey 3’s that give us hope. There’s no real consistency in his offensive game he’ll either be flukey spectacular or complete trash. The answer lies in between and I think that archetype is Aaron Gordon.

The Aaron Gordon who dropped 10 3s in a game?

In last years playoffs? I can’t remember, but yeah. Sometimes AG can shoot 3’s and score and look great, most times he can’t. Scottie can also sometimes shoot 3’s and look great and fool people, but most of the time he can’t.
It’s year 5 now and aside from some late unexpected resurgence I see an Aaron Gordon type of player developing.

[dandaman]

I always hear how scottie plays up to his competition. Lebron. Kd. Etc.

What's a bigger matchup for him than giannis?

17/5/3? I didn't see that tonight at all. Not expecting him to outplay giannis but the way everyone talks about scottie in certain matchups I'd have expected more agression...

Also those lebron/kd matchups were in his rookie year. Maybe 2nd. but the reputation has stuck i guess... wishful thinking?

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After Giannis hit a 3 Scottie legit checked out. He spent the next 2 possessions trying to get a 3 of his own. It doesn't even matter that he made the 2nd one, actual basketball process abandoned him as a started jacking up 3s to prove to Giannis he could do it too. He got caught up in some bizarro game within the game with Giannis.

Sometimes i think Scottie sees himself a much better player then he is, ROY and all star appearance got to his head a little bit, he is on twitch talking about he wants all the awards, how about you learn how to shoot and finish in the paint at a league average for starters

[MEDIC]

I always hear how scottie plays up to his competition. Lebron. Kd. Etc.

What's a bigger matchup for him than giannis?

17/5/3? I didn't see that tonight at all. Not expecting him to outplay giannis but the way everyone talks about scottie in certain matchups I'd have expected more agression...

Also those lebron/kd matchups were in his rookie year. Maybe 2nd. but the reputation has stuck i guess... wishful thinking?

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After Giannis hit a 3 Scottie legit checked out. He spent the next 2 possessions trying to get a 3 of his own. It doesn't even matter that he made the 2nd one, actual basketball process abandoned him as a started jacking up 3s to prove to Giannis he could do it too. He got caught up in some bizarro game within the game with Giannis.

I noticed that as well. He made it about him vs. Giannis rather than just playing smart basketball. You saw that same old emotional immaturity creep in.

[HumbleRen]

The defense is a bigger problem than the offense for the starting lineup

Their starting line up is completely at odds at how they want to defend.

Ingram or RJ have to be able to defend at a high level and they both can’t do it. Ingram can be passable but RJ is still very bad at it despite his effort.

Darko is going to have to do alot of staggering to avoid having them play together.

I think they need to stagger lineups for their offense to work as well.

It’s what they’re already doing, Darko may just have to do it quicker.

RJ is one of the worst defenders at his position, IQ is average at best. Ingram is mid at it.

That’s all 3 of your perimeter guys being below average as a collective on defence.

Meanwhile on the offence side, RJ, Scottie and Poeltl provide 0 spacing gravity.

I’m just not sure how that starting 5 can win their minutes against good teams.

[TheRaptor!]

Scottie plays well when he has better players to hide behind. When his number is called he gets punked like by CJ McCollum 2-3 years ago or he hits some flukey 3’s that give us hope. There’s no real consistency in his offensive game he’ll either be flukey spectacular or complete trash. The answer lies in between and I think that archetype is Aaron Gordon.

The Aaron Gordon who dropped 10 3s in a game?

In last years playoffs? I can’t remember, but yeah. Sometimes AG can shoot 3’s and score and look great, most times he can’t. Scottie can also sometimes shoot 3’s and look great and fool people, but most of the time he can’t.
It’s year 5 now and aside from some late unexpected resurgence I see an Aaron Gordon type of player developing.

Gordon dropped 50 with 10/11 threes in the season opener

I dont see Scottie EVER becoming that kind of a 3 point threat

[JB7]

I always hear how scottie plays up to his competition. Lebron. Kd. Etc.

What's a bigger matchup for him than giannis?

17/5/3? I didn't see that tonight at all. Not expecting him to outplay giannis but the way everyone talks about scottie in certain matchups I'd have expected more agression...

Also those lebron/kd matchups were in his rookie year. Maybe 2nd. but the reputation has stuck i guess... wishful thinking?

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After Giannis hit a 3 Scottie legit checked out. He spent the next 2 possessions trying to get a 3 of his own. It doesn't even matter that he made the 2nd one, actual basketball process abandoned him as a started jacking up 3s to prove to Giannis he could do it too. He got caught up in some bizarro game within the game with Giannis.

I noticed that as well. He made it about him vs. Giannis rather than just playing smart basketball. You saw that same old emotional immaturity creep in.

I wonder if Barnes was pissed his name was probably offered in some type of Giannis deal this summer.

[Basketball_Jones]

The Aaron Gordon who dropped 10 3s in a game?

In last years playoffs? I can’t remember, but yeah. Sometimes AG can shoot 3’s and score and look great, most times he can’t. Scottie can also sometimes shoot 3’s and look great and fool people, but most of the time he can’t.
It’s year 5 now and aside from some late unexpected resurgence I see an Aaron Gordon type of player developing.

Gordon dropped 50 with 10/11 threes in the season opener

I dont see Scottie EVER becoming that kind of a 3 point threat

Holy crap he did that last game lol. I mean, it took AG many seasons to shoot well from deep on only 3.6 attempts a game. I still don’t think he’s really a good 3 point shooter yet but we’ll see.

[causal_fan]

I don't believe the Raptors have been forthcoming about the health of Poeltl and given that the Raptors recently gave Poeltl a very generous extension, this could turn out to be a disaster.

[___Rand___]

I'm not fussed with this loss or this roster. It isn't perfect. Not perfect roster. not perfect coach. It doesn't have a championship ceiling. That was a competitive game against a playoff team. That's a win.

[YogurtProducer]

I always hear how scottie plays up to his competition. Lebron. Kd. Etc.

What's a bigger matchup for him than giannis?

17/5/3? I didn't see that tonight at all. Not expecting him to outplay giannis but the way everyone talks about scottie in certain matchups I'd have expected more agression...

Also those lebron/kd matchups were in his rookie year. Maybe 2nd. but the reputation has stuck i guess... wishful thinking?

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After Giannis hit a 3 Scottie legit checked out. He spent the next 2 possessions trying to get a 3 of his own. It doesn't even matter that he made the 2nd one, actual basketball process abandoned him as a started jacking up 3s to prove to Giannis he could do it too. He got caught up in some bizarro game within the game with Giannis.

I noticed that as well. He made it about him vs. Giannis rather than just playing smart basketball. You saw that same old emotional immaturity creep in.

He did it earlier when he flexed on him, then kind of tied Giannis up on thr other end, Scottie just tried to force drive on him.

Like it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to not try and take Giannis 1 on 1 when a) it’s early on the clock, and b) you’re not a very good offensive player in the first place and c) it’s **** Giannis man

[YogurtProducer]

Their starting line up is completely at odds at how they want to defend.

Ingram or RJ have to be able to defend at a high level and they both can’t do it. Ingram can be passable but RJ is still very bad at it despite his effort.

Darko is going to have to do alot of staggering to avoid having them play together.

I think they need to stagger lineups for their offense to work as well.

It’s what they’re already doing, Darko may just have to do it quicker.

RJ is one of the worst defenders at his position, IQ is average at best. Ingram is mid at it.

That’s all 3 of your perimeter guys being below average as a collective on defence.

Meanwhile on the offence side, RJ, Scottie and Poeltl provide 0 spacing gravity.

I’m just not sure how that starting 5 can win their minutes against good teams.

RJ has shot 36% from 3 as a Rap and 43% this year can we not lump him in with Barnes/Jakob for shooting? lol

If Barnes or Yak could shoot like Barrett they’d be all nba players

[Thaddy]

I think they need to stagger lineups for their offense to work as well.

It’s what they’re already doing, Darko may just have to do it quicker.

RJ is one of the worst defenders at his position, IQ is average at best. Ingram is mid at it.

That’s all 3 of your perimeter guys being below average as a collective on defence.

Meanwhile on the offence side, RJ, Scottie and Poeltl provide 0 spacing gravity.

I’m just not sure how that starting 5 can win their minutes against good teams.

RJ has shot 36% from 3 as a Rap and 43% this year can we not lump him in with Barnes/Jakob for shooting? lol

If Barnes or Yak could shoot like Barrett they’d be all nba players

RJ is a much better shooter than we give him credit for especially on catches. He's putting up insane numbers right now that stick out in a great way.

[Rainman66]

Really wish we kept Sarr with the last roster spot, a big over 6'9 off the bench is def a glaring need for this team.

We had a 108DRTG with Poeltl on the bench last night - cant blame the bench bigs really.

In fact, we have actually dominated Sandros and Mogobs minutes on the d-end

Sarr has a pretty good average drtg as well, I guess the glaring need is more of a bench C who can start/come off the bench when Poetl is too injured to produce on d-end, hopefully Cmb is back soon.

[HumbleRen]

I think they need to stagger lineups for their offense to work as well.

It’s what they’re already doing, Darko may just have to do it quicker.

RJ is one of the worst defenders at his position, IQ is average at best. Ingram is mid at it.

That’s all 3 of your perimeter guys being below average as a collective on defence.

Meanwhile on the offence side, RJ, Scottie and Poeltl provide 0 spacing gravity.

I’m just not sure how that starting 5 can win their minutes against good teams.

RJ has shot 36% from 3 as a Rap and 43% this year can we not lump him in with Barnes/Jakob for shooting? lol

If Barnes or Yak could shoot like Barrett they’d be all nba players

Shooting percentage isn’t spacing gravity. They are completely are okay with RJ shooting 3’s.

RJ, Jakobe and Gradey shoot a similar % from the 3. One is attracting a different echelon of attention from the perimeter than the other 2 lol.

[Thaddy]

Is RJ still too much of a defensive negative?

IQ seems like the misfit but I'm not sure about RJ.

Ideally we package them together for a superstar guard. That's the missing piece to a championship. We need someone like Garland or Morant.

Poeltl
CMB
Barnes
Ingram
Garland

I think that's a contender.

[LoveMyRaps]

It’s what they’re already doing, Darko may just have to do it quicker.

RJ is one of the worst defenders at his position, IQ is average at best. Ingram is mid at it.

That’s all 3 of your perimeter guys being below average as a collective on defence.

Meanwhile on the offence side, RJ, Scottie and Poeltl provide 0 spacing gravity.

I’m just not sure how that starting 5 can win their minutes against good teams.

RJ has shot 36% from 3 as a Rap and 43% this year can we not lump him in with Barnes/Jakob for shooting? lol

If Barnes or Yak could shoot like Barrett they’d be all nba players

Shooting percentage isn’t spacing gravity. They are completely are okay with RJ shooting 3’s.

RJ, Jakobe and Gradey shoot a similar % from the 3. One is attracting a different echelon of attention from the perimeter than the other 2 lol.

This is simply not true.

[HumbleRen]

RJ has shot 36% from 3 as a Rap and 43% this year can we not lump him in with Barnes/Jakob for shooting? lol

If Barnes or Yak could shoot like Barrett they’d be all nba players

Shooting percentage isn’t spacing gravity. They are completely are okay with RJ shooting 3’s.

RJ, Jakobe and Gradey shoot a similar % from the 3. One is attracting a different echelon of attention from the perimeter than the other 2 lol.

This is simply not true.

It is 100% true. RJ and Jakobe don’t have the same level of attention from their defenders on the perimeter.

It’s not RJ’s fault, it’s just a shooters repetition often takes years to get the respect of a defender from the 3 point line if you aren’t drafted into the league as a known shooter.

[tsherkin]

It is 100% true. RJ and Jakobe don’t have the same level of attention from their defenders on the perimeter.

It’s not RJ’s fault, it’s just a shooters repetition often takes years to get the respect of a defender from the 3 point line if you aren’t drafted into the league as a known shooter.

There is also that RJ is much worse ATB than those guys, so they really only have to guard him from the right-side corner. Obviously, that hasn't been quite the case over the opening two games, but he hasn't historically been any sort of consistent threat from up top, so there's no real reason to lend any extra defensive attention to him in that spot until he's able to show it over a meaningful sample, you know?

[Kingsway_fan]

I always hear how scottie plays up to his competition. Lebron. Kd. Etc.

What's a bigger matchup for him than giannis?

17/5/3? I didn't see that tonight at all. Not expecting him to outplay giannis but the way everyone talks about scottie in certain matchups I'd have expected more agression...

Also those lebron/kd matchups were in his rookie year. Maybe 2nd. but the reputation has stuck i guess... wishful thinking?

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After Giannis hit a 3 Scottie legit checked out. He spent the next 2 possessions trying to get a 3 of his own. It doesn't even matter that he made the 2nd one, actual basketball process abandoned him as a started jacking up 3s to prove to Giannis he could do it too. He got caught up in some bizarro game within the game with Giannis.

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Mentally weak and immature... reflected in his inconsistent efforts throughout each season ... that game should have been winnable... he is a weak link too often. Intensity needs to be there, when he is out on the court. Not deserving of that Max so far... if your shooting and decision making is bad, at least bring max effort and impact on D.