2025 Miami Heat Regular Season Thread

[KingDavid]

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I mean is it possible he was rigging this game? Sure. But have the people who thought he was tanking this game given consideration that Rozier is a really bad player? Also, why did Spo keep him in there if he was playing so bad?

From everything I've read Terry effed up once and was immediately brought in by the NBA and they shut him down. According to windhorst. He knew he was being investigated further by the FBI, confirmed from all the comments by his lawyer recently and tidbits we'd hear all of last year. All the clips of him playing poorly is cuz he was mentally cooked and stressed by knowing he was being investigated and it showed up on the court. People dragging him thru the mud and posting these clips cuz it gets clicks. Its baseless. I actually feel bad for Terry. He messed up. He should've been punished by the league. And then moved on. Instead nba tried glossing it over, allowed tbe Heat to trade for him and neither the league nor Charlotte disclosed this to Miami, and now the FBI unsurprisingly dropping all of this as this nba season starts cuz ya know this admin wants as many gold stars and pats on the head and attention as possible.

Now its a clusterfck.

I do not believe its the league fault. They likely couldnt prove anything. From the FBI presser, the people who got Rozier to help them win the bets drove all the way from up north to Rozier house and gave him cash. There was no way the NBA could of traced that if it was done properly. The pattern could be seen but likely not enough to hand down punishment. A lot of the current evidence may only been able to be reveal if someone connected got arrested for something else and then took a plea deal. That is out of the NBA reach.

But they at least had suspicion and did not disclose this information to the heat. The NBA finalizes all trades. They were aware of the potential liability & did not disclose the suspicion that would likely have deterred the heat from pulling the trigger on the trade.

[KingDavid]

I don’t know about absolving the league for the situation. Even if they found no evidence of wrongdoing because Rozier wouldn’t admit to it or they couldn’t find any trace of gambling or even having faked an injury, would the league be legally barred from telling Riley that they investigated Rozier?

Yes, because the league would get sued by the player for hurting his value. It wouldn't mean word didnt get around. Employees in all space all have some crazy skeletons in their closets so its not uncommon to hear a lot of accusations that its numbing.

I may be wrong, but wasnt their footage going around a few years ago of Rozier with a friend that was caught up in a scandal and their was footage of a duffle bag of cash.

Privately notifying the heat of the investigation, the reasons behind it, and the conclusion is not libel nor slander. We didn't sign him to a contract, he was already under contract; we traded for him. We traded for Rozier & gave up an extremely valuable asset in good faith and it wasn't reciprocated by the hornets nor the nba. They intentionally hid critical information.

[Shewasfly]

Would be interesting to know if Charlotte knew something was going on and swept it under the rug.

Now that could work in our favor.

You guys are sounding thirsty right now. Think about it… Miami traded big booty Lowry at a substantial salary that was basically waived by Charlotte and a draft pick. You got years of value out of a player. And you have the audacity to believe you’re getting a pick back? That a team REALLY traded you a damaged player for a draft pick and the league allowed it? He played for Charlotte the year after he pulled that bs before being traded, but you and the other fella are forgetting that part.

Carry on.

The Heat likely wouldn't have traded for him with that type of liability attached to him. Most teams wouldn't; take a look at Malik Beasley. Your front office knew about the illegal actions, the NBA knew about the illegal actions, both tried to sweep it under the rug and wash their hands of it while Miami was left holding the bag. If the heat knew, I'd agree with you. But they didn't. Do you know what that's called in litigation?.........Neither do I, but I want something back for getting bamboozled dammit!

It is concealment and would easily lead to a breach of contract in legal context.

[marson]

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I mean is it possible he was rigging this game? Sure. But have the people who thought he was tanking this game given consideration that Rozier is a really bad player? Also, why did Spo keep him in there if he was playing so bad?

I'm triggered, Bam was also playing out of his mind this game.

[KingDavid]

Bam's 3 looks good af

[batterybro42]

Miami might be something this year if you look at the offense they are playing, and add Herro into it

The defense is a given that will come around

Bam hitting 3s is huge

Shoutout Bammy on this board, hope your boy keeps it up. That’s legit what is possible if he’s hitting from the outside for this team offensively. If this is final form Bam I’m here for it, and he’s got another 10 years in the NBA easy.

That start isn’t sustainable but if he can shoot at a level that requires defense, and Ware does as well all the sudden running 2 bigs looks viable in what is a small eastern conference. Ware is a dog as well, it’s a good time to be a Heat fan better days coming Heat bros

[twix2500]

I am amazed Bam took 8 none hesitate 3s. All of them looked good. I think the Heat need Bam to average 18-19 fga

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[Flash4thewin]

I am amazed Bam took 8 none hesitate 3s. All of them looked good. I think the Heat need Bam to average 18-19 fga

This is what is needed for Bam to thrive at PF, when opposing teams start to close the distance and respect his 3 shooting it will open up the floor for him so much more and then he can use his physical skills to his advantage. This is why people have been wanting Ware to start and to make Bam the focal point of the offense. Last night he 19 shot attempts, a team high. We all want Bam to take that next step up. Also Jovic played better from the bench in this current build. I think we had the highest scoring team of the night, something that hasn't happened for lord know how many years. Let's build on what we saw last night.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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I mean is it possible he was rigging this game? Sure. But have the people who thought he was tanking this game given consideration that Rozier is a really bad player? Also, why did Spo keep him in there if he was playing so bad?

I'm triggered, Bam was also playing out of his mind this game.

We were witnessing an absolute masterclass, marson

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I am amazed Bam took 8 none hesitate 3s. All of them looked good. I think the Heat need Bam to average 18-19 fga

I’ve been saying the same, Bam and Herro need to be anywhere without the 17-20 range with Powell at 14-16, everyone else fall in line within the flow of the offense. Thankfully he (like everyone else) took his foot off the gas at halftime so the efficiency plummeted but that’s why context matters.

You play through your best player, we did early on and the game was over by halftime or even before

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Obviously it’s VERY early but we have the 8th best offense and 4th best defense right now with the 3rd best net rating. The defense is 4th despite giving up 125 and 114 points in our 2 games, this is likely due to our insane league leading pace early on. So while you might look and see that we gave up 55-60 points in a half that might actually be a solid number relative to the pace we’re playing at based on us having the 4th best defense. If Vade is lurking around and even cares to touch on it I’m sure he could give better detail on that.

For comparison the best DRTG last season was OKC at 106.6, our current DRTG is 106.7.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[DayofMourning]

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Give me the best of their picks. No lotto protection.

[shanedude]

Mike Baiamonte is retiring, sad to see. He's a Heat institution.

[Voltron914]

Obviously it’s VERY early but we have the 8th best offense and 4th best defense right now with the 3rd best net rating. The defense is 4th despite giving up 125 and 114 points in our 2 games, this is likely due to our insane league leading pace early on. So while you might look and see that we gave up 55-60 points in a half that might actually be a solid number relative to the pace we’re playing at based on us having the 4th best defense. If Vade is lurking around and even cares to touch on it I’m sure he could give better detail on that.

For comparison the best DRTG last season was OKC at 106.6, our current DRTG is 106.7.

Looking at a few breakdown videos of our offense it looks like this was what Spo basically cooked up last off season with a faster pace flowing every body eats style which explains why Jimmy threw a fit since this system rewards the hustler running the floor instead of walk up give me the ball and watch me create something

[Wiltside]

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[MiamiLoyal926]

I am amazed Bam took 8 none hesitate 3s. All of them looked good. I think the Heat need Bam to average 18-19 fga

I’ve been saying the same, Bam and Herro need to be anywhere without the 17-20 range with Powell at 14-16, everyone else fall in line within the flow of the offense. Thankfully he (like everyone else) took his foot off the gas at halftime so the efficiency plummeted but that’s why context matters.

You play through your best player, we did early on and the game was over by halftime or even before

If this new high pace offense is legit the game plan for the season, then Herro and Bam can get their healthy dose of shots like you said and still leave enough shot attempts for the rest of the squad as well. It is definitely a byproduct that benefits all players if they buy in. There were 91 shot attempts the first game and 102 the second game. So 34-40 shot attempts for Herro and Bam still leaves 50-60 shot attempts for the rest of the squad and the hot hand.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Obviously it’s VERY early but we have the 8th best offense and 4th best defense right now with the 3rd best net rating. The defense is 4th despite giving up 125 and 114 points in our 2 games, this is likely due to our insane league leading pace early on. So while you might look and see that we gave up 55-60 points in a half that might actually be a solid number relative to the pace we’re playing at based on us having the 4th best defense. If Vade is lurking around and even cares to touch on it I’m sure he could give better detail on that.

For comparison the best DRTG last season was OKC at 106.6, our current DRTG is 106.7.

Looking at a few breakdown videos of our offense it looks like this was what Spo basically cooked up last off season with a faster pace flowing every body eats style which explains why Jimmy threw a fit since this system rewards the hustler running the floor instead of walk up give me the ball and watch me create something

Apparently we’re running little to no plays, we’re just running a free flowing offense. It’s throwing opposing coaches off here early because there’s no organized set to gameplan for.

[twix2500]

You guys are sounding thirsty right now. Think about it… Miami traded big booty Lowry at a substantial salary that was basically waived by Charlotte and a draft pick. You got years of value out of a player. And you have the audacity to believe you’re getting a pick back? That a team REALLY traded you a damaged player for a draft pick and the league allowed it? He played for Charlotte the year after he pulled that bs before being traded, but you and the other fella are forgetting that part.

Carry on.

The Heat likely wouldn't have traded for him with that type of liability attached to him. Most teams wouldn't; take a look at Malik Beasley. Your front office knew about the illegal actions, the NBA knew about the illegal actions, both tried to sweep it under the rug and wash their hands of it while Miami was left holding the bag. If the heat knew, I'd agree with you. But they didn't. Do you know what that's called in litigation?.........Neither do I, but I want something back for getting bamboozled dammit!

It is concealment and would easily lead to a breach of contract in legal context.

No one "KNOWS" whether the Hornets or the NBA "KNEW" of any illegal actions. You can’t just OFFICIALLY pass rumors or suspicions. There has to be a declaration before one officially acts. If the NBA or even the Hornets start spreading the word that Rozier is committing gambling fraud without a declaration or taking any action, they are putting themselves in a huge lawsuit. The biggest problem is the NBA has partnered with gambling, which puts EVERYONE in the industry in the room with criminals and scammers. Thus, the NBA can’t act because of association. If the Heat or the NBA finds out that the HORNETS knew he was committing illegal actions, then yeah, there is a case for the Heat. But the Heat has to find out that either the Hornets or the NBA "KNEW" Rozier was breaking the NBA laws and rules. There are always employees with rumors.