Is Reed Sheppard too undersized/unathletic to succeed in the NBA?
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It’s very very early. He could need a lot more time and deserves more time or he could just not be NBA worthy at all. We’ll see! He reminds me of Jimmer a bit
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Bobbymcgee wrote:Terrible pick by the Rockets. They could have had Stephen Castle or several other decent players who are much better than Reed Sheppard. He is basically Jimmer 2.0.
Wait what?! Damn
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small guys like pritchard, fvv, and mcconnell can really handle the basketball...he still has time to improve his dribbling and passing and point guard skills...if his d and 3 ball is solid then he can stick in the league
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KingFox wrote:It’s very very early. He could need a lot more time and deserves more time or he could just not be NBA worthy at all. We’ll see! He reminds me of Jimmer a bit
Jimmer is exactly who I think of when I watch Sheppard.
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Godymas wrote:Revived wrote:Godymas wrote:
Curry is also undersized, Curry is the definition of undersized. Curry's most famous trait is being undersized and changing the game for Christ's sake
If you think that’s Curry’s most famous trait then you need to delete your entire memory of basketball thus far and re-watch from the start brother.
That is literally what Curry is known for, it’s part of his story. Literally being too small, too skinny to succeed and he managed to overcome it by becoming the greatest shooter ever.
If you started watching in 2020 then I understand why you’re not aware of the most common thing mentioned about Curry when he was becoming who he is.
How is Steph undersized at 6’2” 190 lbs? He’s bigger than 99% of PGs in NBA history. He’s bigger than Isiah, Stockton, KJ, Iverson, Nash, CP3, Price, etc…
Steph was only considered undersized coming into the league because it wasn’t certain whether he could play PG. He was billed as a tweener 2-guard. Once Steph proved capable of playing PG full time in his rookie year, he ceased being undersized. His GOAT-tier handles are what separate him from his dad and brother.
Not to mention he’s one of the strongest players in NBA history pound-for-pound. He can deadlift 400 lbs and outbenched DeAndre Jordan at the combine.
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LockoutSeason wrote:Godymas wrote:Revived wrote:If you think that’s Curry’s most famous trait then you need to delete your entire memory of basketball thus far and re-watch from the start brother.
That is literally what Curry is known for, it’s part of his story. Literally being too small, too skinny to succeed and he managed to overcome it by becoming the greatest shooter ever.
If you started watching in 2020 then I understand why you’re not aware of the most common thing mentioned about Curry when he was becoming who he is.
How is Steph undersized at 6’2” 190 lbs? He’s bigger than 99% of PGs in NBA history. He’s bigger than Isiah, Stockton, KJ, Iverson, Nash, CP3, Price, etc…
Steph was only considered undersized coming into the league because it wasn’t certain whether he could play PG. He was billed as a tweener 2-guard. Once Steph proved capable of playing PG full time in his rookie year, he ceased being undersized. His GOAT-tier handles are what separate him from his dad and brother.
Not to mention he’s one of the strongest players in NBA history pound-for-pound. He can deadlift 400 lbs and outbenched DeAndre Jordan at the combine.
Came into the NBA at 6'2" with a 6'3.5" wingspan and 181lbs. Regardless of the actual weight numbers, Curry came into the league looking really scrawny and there was plenty of concern about how he would translate physically.
He put those concerns to bed pretty early, simply by being immediately very good as a rookie.
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cupcakesnake wrote:LockoutSeason wrote:Godymas wrote:
That is literally what Curry is known for, it’s part of his story. Literally being too small, too skinny to succeed and he managed to overcome it by becoming the greatest shooter ever.
If you started watching in 2020 then I understand why you’re not aware of the most common thing mentioned about Curry when he was becoming who he is.
How is Steph undersized at 6’2” 190 lbs? He’s bigger than 99% of PGs in NBA history. He’s bigger than Isiah, Stockton, KJ, Iverson, Nash, CP3, Price, etc…
Steph was only considered undersized coming into the league because it wasn’t certain whether he could play PG. He was billed as a tweener 2-guard. Once Steph proved capable of playing PG full time in his rookie year, he ceased being undersized. His GOAT-tier handles are what separate him from his dad and brother.
Not to mention he’s one of the strongest players in NBA history pound-for-pound. He can deadlift 400 lbs and outbenched DeAndre Jordan at the combine.
Came into the NBA at 6'2" with a 6'3.5" wingspan and 181lbs. Regardless of the actual weight numbers, Curry came into the league looking really scrawny and there was plenty of concern about how he would translate physically.
He put those concerns to bed pretty early, simply by being immediately as a rookie.
It seems like there might be a missing word or two in that last paragraph.
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cupcakesnake wrote:LockoutSeason wrote:Godymas wrote:
That is literally what Curry is known for, it’s part of his story. Literally being too small, too skinny to succeed and he managed to overcome it by becoming the greatest shooter ever.
If you started watching in 2020 then I understand why you’re not aware of the most common thing mentioned about Curry when he was becoming who he is.
How is Steph undersized at 6’2” 190 lbs? He’s bigger than 99% of PGs in NBA history. He’s bigger than Isiah, Stockton, KJ, Iverson, Nash, CP3, Price, etc…
Steph was only considered undersized coming into the league because it wasn’t certain whether he could play PG. He was billed as a tweener 2-guard. Once Steph proved capable of playing PG full time in his rookie year, he ceased being undersized. His GOAT-tier handles are what separate him from his dad and brother.
Not to mention he’s one of the strongest players in NBA history pound-for-pound. He can deadlift 400 lbs and outbenched DeAndre Jordan at the combine.
Came into the NBA at 6'2" with a 6'3.5" wingspan and 181lbs. Regardless of the actual weight numbers, Curry came into the league looking really scrawny and there was plenty of concern about how he would translate physically.
He put those concerns to bed pretty early, simply by being immediately very good as a rookie.
Thanks.
I thought I understood but wanted to be sure.
That is true, but there were concerns about an early injury (ankle?) and playing outside of the limelight.
All those concerns long since put to bed and then some by the best shooter in nba history, multiple mvp, champion and Olympian.
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cupcakesnake wrote:LockoutSeason wrote:Godymas wrote:
That is literally what Curry is known for, it’s part of his story. Literally being too small, too skinny to succeed and he managed to overcome it by becoming the greatest shooter ever.
If you started watching in 2020 then I understand why you’re not aware of the most common thing mentioned about Curry when he was becoming who he is.
How is Steph undersized at 6’2” 190 lbs? He’s bigger than 99% of PGs in NBA history. He’s bigger than Isiah, Stockton, KJ, Iverson, Nash, CP3, Price, etc…
Steph was only considered undersized coming into the league because it wasn’t certain whether he could play PG. He was billed as a tweener 2-guard. Once Steph proved capable of playing PG full time in his rookie year, he ceased being undersized. His GOAT-tier handles are what separate him from his dad and brother.
Not to mention he’s one of the strongest players in NBA history pound-for-pound. He can deadlift 400 lbs and outbenched DeAndre Jordan at the combine.
Came into the NBA at 6'2" with a 6'3.5" wingspan and 181lbs. Regardless of the actual weight numbers, Curry came into the league looking really scrawny and there was plenty of concern about how he would translate physically.
He put those concerns to bed pretty early, simply by being immediately very good as a rookie.
Those physical stats are still not undersized for a PG. He’s still way bigger than the average PG, baby face and all.
I remember when Steph came into the league. He was considered undersized for NBA solely because he was seen as a SG and not a PG. He played like a smaller Ray Allen.
Steph averaged 3.7 APG and 3.0 TO in college. He showed negative PG skills in college. He was a below average passer/playmaker even for a SG.
Just check his nbadraft.net scouting report from 2008:
“Made transition from SG to PG this year, but he is more of a combo guard that makes good decisions than a true PG”
“At 6-2, he’s extremely small for the NBA shooting guard position”
“Although he’s playing point guard this year, he’s not a natural point guard that an NBA team can rely on to run a team”
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JRoy wrote:cupcakesnake wrote:LockoutSeason wrote:
How is Steph undersized at 6’2” 190 lbs? He’s bigger than 99% of PGs in NBA history. He’s bigger than Isiah, Stockton, KJ, Iverson, Nash, CP3, Price, etc…
Steph was only considered undersized coming into the league because it wasn’t certain whether he could play PG. He was billed as a tweener 2-guard. Once Steph proved capable of playing PG full time in his rookie year, he ceased being undersized. His GOAT-tier handles are what separate him from his dad and brother.
Not to mention he’s one of the strongest players in NBA history pound-for-pound. He can deadlift 400 lbs and outbenched DeAndre Jordan at the combine.
Came into the NBA at 6'2" with a 6'3.5" wingspan and 181lbs. Regardless of the actual weight numbers, Curry came into the league looking really scrawny and there was plenty of concern about how he would translate physically.
He put those concerns to bed pretty early, simply by being immediately very good as a rookie.
Thanks.
I thought I understood but wanted to be sure.
That is true, but there were concerns about an early injury (ankle?) and playing outside of the limelight.
All those concerns long since put to bed and then some by the best shooter in nba history, multiple mvp, champion and Olympian.
Yeah the ankle injuries really piled up by his 3rd year, and it caused some legit doubt that Curry would reach his potential or have a good career. He didn't even get a max contract after his rookie deal (which, sort of ironically, helped them sign KD later).
I think with any prospect where there's doubt if they have an NBA body, you worry their game wont work at the next level. As soon as it works, that concern is put to bed. Any small guard will get this, but Steph really did look particularly skinny coming into the league. People had the same doubts about Trae Young and Jimmer Fredette. Reed Sheppard had a weirder athletic profile. He had really good vertical elevation in a lot of situations, but serious problems with horizontal quickness. He was polarizing in the draft, with some people thinking he was sneaky athletic, and others thinking the holes were concerning.
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dballislife wrote:small guys like pritchard, fvv, and mcconnell can really handle the basketball...he still has time to improve his dribbling and passing and point guard skills...if his d and 3 ball is solid then he can stick in the league
An underrated aspect about FVV is that he is exceptionally strong and can actually defend multiple positions.
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LockoutSeason wrote:cupcakesnake wrote:LockoutSeason wrote:
How is Steph undersized at 6’2” 190 lbs? He’s bigger than 99% of PGs in NBA history. He’s bigger than Isiah, Stockton, KJ, Iverson, Nash, CP3, Price, etc…
Steph was only considered undersized coming into the league because it wasn’t certain whether he could play PG. He was billed as a tweener 2-guard. Once Steph proved capable of playing PG full time in his rookie year, he ceased being undersized. His GOAT-tier handles are what separate him from his dad and brother.
Not to mention he’s one of the strongest players in NBA history pound-for-pound. He can deadlift 400 lbs and outbenched DeAndre Jordan at the combine.
Came into the NBA at 6'2" with a 6'3.5" wingspan and 181lbs. Regardless of the actual weight numbers, Curry came into the league looking really scrawny and there was plenty of concern about how he would translate physically.
He put those concerns to bed pretty early, simply by being immediately very good as a rookie.
Those physical stats are still not undersized for a PG. He’s still way bigger than the average PG, baby face and all.
I remember when Steph came into the league. He was considered undersized for NBA solely because he was seen as a SG and not a PG. He played like a smaller Ray Allen.
Steph averaged 3.7 APG and 3.0 TO in college. He showed negative PG skills in college. He was a below average passer/playmaker even for a SG.
Just check his nbadraft.net scouting report from 2008:
“Made transition from SG to PG this year, but he is more of a combo guard that makes good decisions than a true PG”
“At 6-2, he’s extremely small for the NBA shooting guard position”
“Although he’s playing point guard this year, he’s not a natural point guard that an NBA team can rely on to run a team”
At 6'2 180 and only a 6'3.5 wingspan, that is small.
He wasn't way bigger than the average PG, lol.
I wish some of you would stop exaggerating. As if every PG before the advent of the Air Jordans was like 5'9 or something.
Steph Curry came into the league weak, underweight with a small wingspan. He was able to be bullied and pushed around even during his MVP years.
Once he grew into being a grown man, which happened during the KD years and after, he's around 6'2 200 pounds.
A 6'2 180 pound point guard with a 1 inch plus isn't considered big in any elite professional league. We had 6'5 point guards before Magic. Curry would still be considered small even 30 years ago.
Scott Henderson, Donovan Mitchell and Eric Bledsoe came into the league 6'1-6'2 and built like NFL RBs and it took Curry almost 6 years to not get pushed around.
Curry came in small and underdeveloped for a professional league with grown men despite spending 3 years in college.
It was like he never touched a weight in his life until he got into the NBA.
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Reed absolutely destroyed all haters tonight.
Sheesh.
Sheesh.
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Handlez wrote:Reed absolutely destroyed all haters tonight.
Sheesh.
Destroyed what? Against opponent 3rd stringers? Reed is still not ready. Needs another year.
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Beacon wrote:Handlez wrote:Reed absolutely destroyed all haters tonight.
Sheesh.
Destroyed what? Against opponent 3rd stringers? Reed is still not ready. Needs another year.
The hate and denial amuse me.
Reed is him.
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Handlez wrote:Beacon wrote:Handlez wrote:Reed absolutely destroyed all haters tonight.
Sheesh.
Destroyed what? Against opponent 3rd stringers? Reed is still not ready. Needs another year.
The hate and denial amuse me.
Reed is him.
Future Chinese league all star.
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Just needs time, he will be fine.

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Handlez wrote:Beacon wrote:Handlez wrote:Reed absolutely destroyed all haters tonight.
Sheesh.
Destroyed what? Against opponent 3rd stringers? Reed is still not ready. Needs another year.
The hate and denial amuse me.
Reed is him.
yes, 10 points in garbage time vs. the worst team in the NBA

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I fully expect him to be a long-time NBA player. As a star, starting, or bench player? That is the real question. Size is an issue but it can be overcome, we have seen it many times. He's also not unathletic. His main issue right now is that he doesn't have the best handle and isn't a skilled finisher. Defense (especially on the ball) needs to improve, too, though he isn't entirely without positive qualities to build on. But his shooting and passing should always get him some court time on NBA teams once he's gotten enough reps in.




