Welcome to Boston, Anfernee Simons!

[redslastlaugh]

I am not seeing it with Simons. Through 3 games, he is worst on the team, a -27 in 82 minutes with an assist:tov ratio of 5:4
Simon's has looked like a lesser Gary Trent Jr and, after 3 games, I value him as a veteran's minimum type of free agent next summer.

That's because Joe is not using Simons properly.

You can see Simons still scores in double figures even with limited playing time and shot attempts.
He's a scorer.
If Joe doesn't let him loose he will be ineffective because he's not good on defense and he's not very big.
So as long as Simons is stuck behind PP on the depth chart, Simons will be ineffective.

It's not a good fit because of how Joe runs the team.

Time to move Simons for a player with a lower salary.

He's way overpaid. Dlo makes $6 mil. Gary Trent makes $3.5 million, Jordan Clarkson makes $3.5

Simons is a $3.5 milloin player, making $27M ... I don't think we're trading him for anything on that contract, though I hope I am wrong about that

[Fierce1]

I am not seeing it with Simons. Through 3 games, he is worst on the team, a -27 in 82 minutes with an assist:tov ratio of 5:4
Simon's has looked like a lesser Gary Trent Jr and, after 3 games, I value him as a veteran's minimum type of free agent next summer.

That's because Joe is not using Simons properly.

You can see Simons still scores in double figures even with limited playing time and shot attempts.
He's a scorer.
If Joe doesn't let him loose he will be ineffective because he's not good on defense and he's not very big.
So as long as Simons is stuck behind PP on the depth chart, Simons will be ineffective.

It's not a good fit because of how Joe runs the team.

Time to move Simons for a player with a lower salary.

He's way overpaid. Dlo makes $6 mil. Gary Trent makes $3.5 million, Jordan Clarkson makes $3.5

Simons is a $3.5 milloin player, making $27M ... I don't think we're trading him for anything on that contract, though I hope I am wrong about that

According to reports, for Brad to get rid of Simons, Brad has to include a pick or two.

It's not the worst case scenario as Simons is an expiring, so even if the Cs are stuck with him for this season, he's gone by July 1.

Being stuck with Jrue's 100m contract would've been worse.

[ryan in Maine]

We're being disrespectful to Simons imo.

[Fierce1]

We're being disrespectful to Simons imo.

It's just a case of he's not fitting in because of how the coach runs the team.

Simons is a scorer who you should let loose.

Joe's not doing that.

[Homerclease]

Just send Temu Jordan Poole home. Terrible, selfish basketball player

[redslastlaugh]

I hope so. I hope he's better than how it's looked. if that's the scheme failing him, if it's the lineups/rotations, if he just hasn't found the rythym as a scorer ... I hope so, I want the guy to be a good Celtic

We're being disrespectful to Simons imo.

[Hal14]

I am not seeing it with Simons. Through 3 games, he is worst on the team, a -27 in 82 minutes with an assist:tov ratio of 5:4
Simon's has looked like a lesser Gary Trent Jr and, after 3 games, I value him as a veteran's minimum type of free agent next summer.

That's because Joe is not using Simons properly.

You can see Simons still scores in double figures even with limited playing time and shot attempts.
He's a scorer.
If Joe doesn't let him loose he will be ineffective because he's not good on defense and he's not very big.
So as long as Simons is stuck behind PP on the depth chart, Simons will be ineffective.

It's not a good fit because of how Joe runs the team.

Time to move Simons for a player with a lower salary.

He's way overpaid. Dlo makes $6 mil. Gary Trent makes $3.5 million, Jordan Clarkson makes $3.5

Simons is a $3.5 milloin player, making $27M ... I don't think we're trading him for anything on that contract, though I hope I am wrong about that

Eh..Trent is apples to oranges with Simons. Trent can't even dribble or create his own shot....under 9 for an assist % every year of his career. Simons meanwhile has been over 20% assist in 3 different seasons.

Clarkson also is a much worse playmaker than Simons. And he's 33 yrs old..7 years older than Simons. Like where are these comps even coming from?

Russell is somewhat similar but he's 3 years older and more injury prone. When Russell was 26, he was making like $28.6 mil a year.

Herro - making like $30mil a year
Poole - making like $32mil a year.

CJ McCollum was making like $26 mil a year when he was 26. And that was awhile ago - guys are getting paid more now.

Zach Lavine is making $47 mil this season. $46 mil a year for Jamal Murray.

Saying Simons is a $3.5mil player is laughable, with all due respect.

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Oh and plus minus on a 3 game sample is pretty much meaningless. We're a bad team and he's adjusting to a new team, new system, new role, etc.

Advanced stats like plus minus are biased against guards..especially volume scoring guards..just like they are biased in favor of bigs - especially bigs who take mosr of their shots right near the rim..so gotta take those biases into context and don't just take those numbers at face value.

[Fierce1]

I hope so. I hope he's better than how it's looked. if that's the scheme failing him, if it's the lineups/rotations, if he just hasn't found the rythym as a scorer ... I hope so, I want the guy to be a good Celtic

We're being disrespectful to Simons imo.

If the best 5 of the Cs is DWhite, PP, Simons, JB, and Queta or Boucher, that's too small.

One has to go among DWhite, PP, and Simons.
It's DWhite, Smart, and Brogdon all over again in 2023.

Obvious choice is Simons.

So it's up to Brad on how he can trade Simons into something Joe can use.

[redslastlaugh]

Simons is a $3.5 milloin player, making $27M ... I don't think we're trading him for anything on that contract, though I hope I am wrong about that

Eh..Trent is apples to oranges with Simons. Trent can't even dribble or create his own shot....under 9 for an assist % every year of his career. Simons meanwhile has been over 20% assist in 3 different seasons.

Clarkson also is a much worse playmaker than Simons. And he's 33 yrs old..7 years older than Simons. Like where are these comps even coming from?

Russell is somewhat similar but he's 3 years older and more injury prone. When Russell was 26, he was making like $28.6 mil a year.

Herro - making like $30mil a year
Poole - making like $32mil a year.

CJ McCollum was making like $26 mil a year when he was 26. And that was awhile ago - guys are getting paid more now.

Zach Lavine is making $47 mil this season.

Saying Simons is a $3.5mil player is laughable, with all due respect.

I agree that three games is a very small sample. But also, the market for players like Simons is a lot less than it used to be. Hopefully he plays better

I wasn't laughing when I wrote Simons is a $3.5M player, lol. But moreso it's just too soon to make that kind of pronouncement, so I retract it. I assume he will get better. If he plays at this level though for the entire season, I do wonder what the NBA will consider FMV for his next contract?

[31to6]

one thing about Simons is that it's very easy to believe a team on which he's the 'best player' is a really **** team
(in the NBA, I mean)

[Parliament10]

This Guy is proving too difficult to play, on this Team.
We should have Waived and Stretched him, when we had the chance.

We would have paid $9.2M/yr for 3 years.
That's starting to look a lot better than keeping him.

[31to6]

This Guy is proving too difficult to play, on this Team.
We should have Waived and Stretched him, when we had the chance.

We would have paid $9.2M/yr for 3 years.
That's starting to look a lot better than keeping him.

disagree. If he helps the team tank, cool, and let him walk next summer. If he helps the team do better than expected, great, and try to resign him to MLE money next summer. If Brad manages to find a useful trade for him in February, that's great too. Those all seem better outcomes than carrying $9M in dead money for the next three seasons, when they're presumably/hopefully going all-in again.

[robdog_5]

Maybe the best scorer on the team right now.

[Hal14]

Maybe the best scorer on the team right now.

I might be in the minority, but I really hope we get to see how lethal this team could be offensively with Tatum, Brown, White and Simons. Not to mention Pritchard and Hauser.

Could be one of the most explosive offensive teams of all time.

[Fierce1]

Maybe the best scorer on the team right now.

I might be in the minority, but I really hope we get to see how lethal this team could be offensively with Tatum, Brown, White and Simons. Not to mention Pritchard and Hauser.

Could be one of the most explosive offensive teams of all time.

If Simons is not an expiring, you could be on to something.
But I think Brad will trade Simons on or before trade deadline.

What Brad is doing is showcasing Simons and hoping Simons plays well enough for Brad not to attach a draft pick/s in a Simons trade.

[Hal14]

Maybe the best scorer on the team right now.

I might be in the minority, but I really hope we get to see how lethal this team could be offensively with Tatum, Brown, White and Simons. Not to mention Pritchard and Hauser.

Could be one of the most explosive offensive teams of all time.

If Simons is not an expiring, you could be on to something.
But I think Brad will trade Simons on or before trade deadline.

What Brad is doing is showcasing Simons and hoping Simons plays well enough for Brad not to attach a draft pick/s in a Simons trade.

It's also possible Simons resigns here on a team friendly deal.

[Fierce1]

I might be in the minority, but I really hope we get to see how lethal this team could be offensively with Tatum, Brown, White and Simons. Not to mention Pritchard and Hauser.

Could be one of the most explosive offensive teams of all time.

If Simons is not an expiring, you could be on to something.
But I think Brad will trade Simons on or before trade deadline.

What Brad is doing is showcasing Simons and hoping Simons plays well enough for Brad not to attach a draft pick/s in a Simons trade.

It's also possible Simons resigns here on a team friendly deal.

I think Simons is a great scorer and I like the guy.
But I think having him and PP is just too much "smallness".

Trade PP and I'm 100% all in keeping Simons.

If you think about it, what happens when the Cs are in a Game 7 of a playoff series?
You're going to have JT, JB, White, a big man, and most likely Hugo or Mynot, right?

OKC learned their lesson in 2024 when Luka and the Mavs beat them because the Mavs had Gafford and Lively and OKC only had Chet and Dort as their best 5 players in crunch time.

It's really hard to win in the postseason without size.

[Hal14]

If Simons is not an expiring, you could be on to something.
But I think Brad will trade Simons on or before trade deadline.

What Brad is doing is showcasing Simons and hoping Simons plays well enough for Brad not to attach a draft pick/s in a Simons trade.

It's also possible Simons resigns here on a team friendly deal.

I think Simons is a great scorer and I like the guy.
But I think having him and PP is just too much "smallness".

Trade PP and I'm 100% all in keeping Simons.

If you think about it, what happens when the Cs are in a Game 7 of a playoff series?
You're going to have JT, JB, White, a big man, and most likely Hugo or Mynot, right?

OKC learned their lesson in 2024 when Luka and the Mavs beat them because the Mavs had Gafford and Lively and OKC only had Chet and Dort as their best 5 players in crunch time.

It's really hard to win in the postseason without size.

OKC won the title because they were already the 1 seed and then they went added not 1 but 2 very good players (Caruso, Hartenstein)..1 of them just happened to be a big.

But the important thing is they were already an excellent team and then they added 2 more really good players. Plus a bunch of their guys were younger players so still on that upward trajectory (Jdub, chet, wiggins, etc.) along with good team chemistry, good coaching and voila, championship.

At the end of the day, what matters most for winning a championship is 2 main things:
a) having a superstar who's a top 4 (ideally top 5) player in the league
b) having talent

We had enough talent to win a championship in 2024. But then we lost Al, Luke, Jrue and KP.

If we trade Simons or Pritchard, we have even less talent - making our championship odds even lower.

And trading Pritchard isn't likely to happen..he only makes like $8mil a year so we wouldn't be able to get a very good player in exchange for him sincr whoever we get can't make more than Pritchard makes..

[Fierce1]

It's also possible Simons resigns here on a team friendly deal.

I think Simons is a great scorer and I like the guy.
But I think having him and PP is just too much "smallness".

Trade PP and I'm 100% all in keeping Simons.

If you think about it, what happens when the Cs are in a Game 7 of a playoff series?
You're going to have JT, JB, White, a big man, and most likely Hugo or Mynot, right?

OKC learned their lesson in 2024 when Luka and the Mavs beat them because the Mavs had Gafford and Lively and OKC only had Chet and Dort as their best 5 players in crunch time.

It's really hard to win in the postseason without size.

OKC won the title because they were already the 1 seed and then they went added not 1 but 2 very good players (Caruso, Hartenstein)..1 of them just happened to be a big.

But the important thing is they were already an excellent team and then they added 2 more really good players. Plus a bunch of their guys were younger players so still on that upward trajectory (Jdub, chet, wiggins, etc.) along with good team chemistry, good coaching and voila, championship.

At the end of the day, what matters most for winning a championship is 2 main things:
a) having a superstar who's a top 4 (ideally top 5) player in the league
b) having talent

We had enough talent to win a championship in 2024. But then we lost Al, Luke, Jrue and KP.

If we trade Simons or Pritchard, we have even less talent - making our championship odds even lower.

And trading Pritchard isn't likely to happen..he only makes like $8mil a year so we wouldn't be able to get a very good player in exchange for him sincr whoever we get can't make more than Pritchard makes..

Agree about not trading PP and the need for more talent.

But Simons is a different story because of his size.

Can we really win a playoff or finals game if the best 5 players on the court, in crunch time, are JT, JB, White, PP, and Simons?

Obviously PP or Simons will have to sit in favor of a big man.

Basically it's I like Simons and I think he's a hell of a player, but it's just not a good fit.

The key is to trade Simons without attaching a draft pick/s.

If Brad can do that then that's one hell of a win for Brad.

[Larry_Russell]

Maybe the best scorer on the team right now.

I might be in the minority, but I really hope we get to see how lethal this team could be offensively with Tatum, Brown, White and Simons. Not to mention Pritchard and Hauser.

Could be one of the most explosive offensive teams of all time.

ewww.

Simons and Brown battling for bad shots....and Simons not doing any passing or defense.

Gross.

He is not a winning player.