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Game 3: Heat vs Knicks 10/26 6 PM EST

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Re: Game 3: Heat vs Knicks 10/26 6 PM EST 

Post#301 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Today 1:49 am

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Giannis Fox Ja or Trae are going to look amazing with this group in the fast paced offense, Giannis might average 50


Herro
Ware
Wiggins
Multiple firsts

For Giannis

Book it.

Mitchell / Smith / Jakucionis
Powell / Fontecchio
Larsson / Jaquez
Adebayo / Jovic
Antetokounmpo

Porter Jr / Anthony
Herro / Trent Jr
Wiggins / Prince
Turner / Kuzma
Ware / Portis


Get it done Wilt!! Round out the roster in the summer and win it all next season
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Re: Game 3: Heat vs Knicks 10/26 6 PM EST 

Post#302 » by Enso » Today 1:58 am

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Giannis Fox Ja or Trae are going to look amazing with this group in the fast paced offense, Giannis might average 50


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Re: Game 3: Heat vs Knicks 10/26 6 PM EST 

Post#303 » by Crazy-Canuck » Today 2:12 am

Dmcdani6 wrote:I like Wiggs role much better, with Herro & Powell, all he has to do is hit a shot from time to time & defend. I think he contained JB the best tonight


Mitchell has really struggled defensively these 3 games. He's oubre-ing out there.

Brunson was eating, then spo had to take Mitchell off him.

Ja was eating, then spo had to take Mitchell off him.

Bane was eating, but spo didn't change.

That's 3 games in a row now. And each time it impacted the game.
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Re: Game 3: Heat vs Knicks 10/26 6 PM EST 

Post#304 » by Crazy-Canuck » Today 2:14 am

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Giannis Fox Ja or Trae are going to look amazing with this group in the fast paced offense, Giannis might average 50


Herro
Ware
Wiggins
Multiple firsts

For Giannis

Book it.

Mitchell / Smith / Jakucionis
Powell / Fontecchio
Larsson / Jaquez
Adebayo / Jovic
Antetokounmpo

Porter Jr / Anthony
Herro / Trent Jr
Wiggins / Prince
Turner / Kuzma
Ware / Portis


If giannis gets traded, it'll be to rebuild. Not to treadmill.
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Re: Game 3: Heat vs Knicks 10/26 6 PM EST 

Post#305 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Today 2:17 am

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Re: Game 3: Heat vs Knicks 10/26 6 PM EST 

Post#306 » by Wiltside » Today 2:22 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:
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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Giannis Fox Ja or Trae are going to look amazing with this group in the fast paced offense, Giannis might average 50


Herro
Ware
Wiggins
Multiple firsts

For Giannis

Book it.

Mitchell / Smith / Jakucionis
Powell / Fontecchio
Larsson / Jaquez
Adebayo / Jovic
Antetokounmpo

Porter Jr / Anthony
Herro / Trent Jr
Wiggins / Prince
Turner / Kuzma
Ware / Portis


If giannis gets traded, it'll be to rebuild. Not to treadmill.


They also need to sell tickets. Herro is the hometown kid, and is an All-Star in his own right.

Ware and the picks is the rebuilding part of the package. Wiggins is contract fodder and a name. Serviceable enough as a wing, or can be let go to clear the cap sheet.
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Re: Game 3: Heat vs Knicks 10/26 6 PM EST 

Post#307 » by Wiltside » Today 2:23 am

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Wiltside wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Giannis Fox Ja or Trae are going to look amazing with this group in the fast paced offense, Giannis might average 50


Herro
Ware
Wiggins
Multiple firsts

For Giannis

Book it.

Mitchell / Smith / Jakucionis
Powell / Fontecchio
Larsson / Jaquez
Adebayo / Jovic
Antetokounmpo

Porter Jr / Anthony
Herro / Trent Jr
Wiggins / Prince
Turner / Kuzma
Ware / Portis


Get it done Wilt!! Round out the roster in the summer and win it all next season


Could even start Fontecchio at the 3 if we wanted a more proven wing shooter than Pelle. I like the Pelle upside potential though as a spot starter.

That spacing with Bam, Giannis and Jaime would be rough though.
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Re: Game 3: Heat vs Knicks 10/26 6 PM EST 

Post#308 » by twix2500 » Today 2:24 am

Hopefully Bam doesn't get discouraged. Keep shooting it. Muscle memory will kick in
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Re: Game 3: Heat vs Knicks 10/26 6 PM EST 

Post#309 » by Enso » Today 2:45 am

I don’t think we’d have to give herro and wiggs. Herro, one of the young guns, a filler and all the picks should do it.
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Re: Game 3: Heat vs Knicks 10/26 6 PM EST 

Post#310 » by Dmcdani6 » Today 2:57 am

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Dmcdani6 wrote:I like Wiggs role much better, with Herro & Powell, all he has to do is hit a shot from time to time & defend. I think he contained JB the best tonight


Mitchell has really struggled defensively these 3 games. He's oubre-ing out there.

Brunson was eating, then spo had to take Mitchell off him.

Ja was eating, then spo had to take Mitchell off him.

Bane was eating, but spo didn't change.

That's 3 games in a row now. And each time it impacted the game.


He fouls quite a bit, didnt realize he was getting cooked that bad tho. Im interested to see if he can defend without fouling so much
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Re: Game 3: Heat vs Knicks 10/26 6 PM EST 

Post#311 » by Flash4thewin » Today 3:09 am

Wiltside wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:
Wiltside wrote:
Herro
Ware
Wiggins
Multiple firsts

For Giannis

Book it.

Mitchell / Smith / Jakucionis
Powell / Fontecchio
Larsson / Jaquez
Adebayo / Jovic
Antetokounmpo

Porter Jr / Anthony
Herro / Trent Jr
Wiggins / Prince
Turner / Kuzma
Ware / Portis


If giannis gets traded, it'll be to rebuild. Not to treadmill.


They also need to sell tickets. Herro is the hometown kid, and is an All-Star in his own right.

Ware and the picks is the rebuilding part of the package. Wiggins is contract fodder and a name. Serviceable enough as a wing, or can be let go to clear the cap sheet.


All joking aside. We need to realize Herro minus a contract extension will only be valued as an expiring contract. That won’t entice any team to trade its star player and expect pennies on the dollar in a trade without an extension.
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Re: Game 3: Heat vs Knicks 10/26 6 PM EST 

Post#312 » by Daffy » Today 3:10 am

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HeatFanLifer wrote:Powell took over that role I thought Wiggins would need to take over as the main perimeter threat. Herro is going to have it rough when he comes back. Completely different team from last season.


I think Herro will be fine. Plus having him in the clutch with Norman and this aggressive version of Bam will help us close out games we should've won last year.

Speaking of Bam. I know his efficiency was poor tonight but I love the aggressive attack on offense. Nights when his shot is falling he's going to feast.


Dude can’t make a shot within the arc now lol if he was shooting his career average from 2 he’d be having a monster start to the season, getting to the line better and shooting 95% has helped


Im not worried about it. He'll come around just like last season.
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Re: Game 3: Heat vs Knicks 10/26 6 PM EST 

Post#313 » by batterybro42 » Today 3:15 am

I don’t think we really need to move anybody. This is going to be a fun team to watch and our salary+asset situation is improving
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Re: Game 3: Heat vs Knicks 10/26 6 PM EST 

Post#314 » by Crazy-Canuck » Today 3:46 am

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Dmcdani6 wrote:I like Wiggs role much better, with Herro & Powell, all he has to do is hit a shot from time to time & defend. I think he contained JB the best tonight


Mitchell has really struggled defensively these 3 games. He's oubre-ing out there.

Brunson was eating, then spo had to take Mitchell off him.

Ja was eating, then spo had to take Mitchell off him.

Bane was eating, but spo didn't change.

That's 3 games in a row now. And each time it impacted the game.


He fouls quite a bit, didnt realize he was getting cooked that bad tho. Im interested to see if he can defend without fouling so much


I think ja shot 100% fg against Mitchell while banes had a 50 or 60% fg. Even more telling to me was that teams aren't screening him off any player

But I'm not too worried about his on ball defense, players will get beat in this NBA. It's the off ball im more concerned with. People confuse activity with good defense (the oubre).
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Re: Game 3: Heat vs Knicks 10/26 6 PM EST 

Post#315 » by HeatFanLifer » Today 4:28 am

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HeatFanLifer wrote:Powell took over that role I thought Wiggins would need to take over as the main perimeter threat. Herro is going to have it rough when he comes back. Completely different team from last season.

I think Tyler's going to have to play a lot more at the 1 to fit in this team, which honestly isn't so bad since it helps hide him more defensively. Even then though Davion seems to be improved as well.

Either way its a good problem to have, most of us a couple weeks ago were expecting this to be a 20 win squad (could still be knock on wood)


What if the Heat told Herro to wait on the surgery because he would lose leverage on the Powell trade? Powell becomes way more important to a team with no starting shooting guard worthy players. Wiggins can hide at SF, but he is exposed at SG. Herro with the knowledge we have now on his injury history, is not holding up well in that SG role either. If that was why the surgery was delayed, yo that was a bad ass negotiation tactic by the Heat.

Let Herro heal up on a non-emergency surgery and get an upgrade at SG.

Now Herro just needs to shine at point guard, cuz this is the end of positionless basketball other than Bam serving as part-time playmaker. Get Powell a guy to give him his stats too. Big responsibility for Herro coming up. He will have competition. Point guards have a relatively short life in Heat basketball. Does Spo have a vision now to fill that piece with a player that is by no stretch a point guard filling in the responsibilities of point guard?

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Re: Game 3: Heat vs Knicks 10/26 6 PM EST 

Post#316 » by HeatFanLifer » Today 4:32 am

Oh **** people would ask two months ago why you need a starting SG when you have Herro, Wiggins, and Rozier. I was one of those people. Based on the information I have now, it makes sense. Wow.
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Re: Game 3: Heat vs Knicks 10/26 6 PM EST 

Post#317 » by HeatFanLifer » Today 4:33 am

If Herro wants an extension, he’s gonna have to show he can play point guard.
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Re: Game 3: Heat vs Knicks 10/26 6 PM EST 

Post#318 » by Shewasfly » Today 6:09 pm

I think people should set their expectations a bit with Bam. Yes, his FG% will eventually go up, but don't expect it to be like when he could pick and choose and wasn't aggressively looking for his shot. A dip in FG% is to be expected when your offense is actually being depended on and more so game planned for. This is the stuff that it's easy to critique and not apply context for when it's other people in that role, but you suddenly see how it's not so easy to do when your guy is even somewhat in that seat (because to be fair, it's still Powell more so than him).

And we must remember that Bam is very averagely skilled offensively. It's just a fact. So expecting him to be B'am every time isn't really smart. But Bam being a big, he does have to give us over 50% shooting for sure.

All that aside, I am loving what I'm seeing from Jaime so far though. I was ready to give up on him but he has lowkey been our all around best player in our wins. He's been the most impactful of everyone on both sides imo.
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Re: Game 3: Heat vs Knicks 10/26 6 PM EST 

Post#319 » by Voltron914 » Today 6:32 pm

Shewasfly wrote:I think people should set their expectations a bit with Bam. Yes, his FG% will eventually go up, but don't expect it to be like when he could pick and choose and wasn't aggressively looking for his shot. A dip in FG% is to be expected when your offense is actually being depended on and more so game planned for. This is the stuff that it's easy to critique and not apply context for when it's other people in that role, but you suddenly see how it's not so easy to do when your guy is even somewhat in that seat (because to be fair, it's still Powell more so than him).

And we must remember that Bam is very averagely skilled offensively. It's just a fact. So expecting him to be B'am every time isn't really smart. But Bam being a big, he does have to give us over 50% shooting for sure.

All that aside, I am loving what I'm seeing from Jaime so far though. I was ready to give up on him but he has lowkey been our all around best player in our wins. He's been the most impactful of everyone on both sides imo.



JJJ really is the engine that runs that 2nd unit and in all of these games is the reason why we build on our lead. i love that Spo is playing so many guys to keep them fresh and running. every player knows their role so no play calling means the defense wont figure it out until the game is pretty much over. Herro coming back will be an advantage not detriment because he is a pure score where he might have 25 pts over Mitchell's 16,6, 10 etc plus u have him fresh to come off the bench with that 2nd unit which might really make our bench potent and on steroids. this might be the year Spo finally gets COY for the reinvention
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Re: Game 3: Heat vs Knicks 10/26 6 PM EST 

Post#320 » by Shewasfly » Today 8:01 pm

Voltron914 wrote:
Shewasfly wrote:I think people should set their expectations a bit with Bam. Yes, his FG% will eventually go up, but don't expect it to be like when he could pick and choose and wasn't aggressively looking for his shot. A dip in FG% is to be expected when your offense is actually being depended on and more so game planned for. This is the stuff that it's easy to critique and not apply context for when it's other people in that role, but you suddenly see how it's not so easy to do when your guy is even somewhat in that seat (because to be fair, it's still Powell more so than him).

And we must remember that Bam is very averagely skilled offensively. It's just a fact. So expecting him to be B'am every time isn't really smart. But Bam being a big, he does have to give us over 50% shooting for sure.

All that aside, I am loving what I'm seeing from Jaime so far though. I was ready to give up on him but he has lowkey been our all around best player in our wins. He's been the most impactful of everyone on both sides imo.



JJJ really is the engine that runs that 2nd unit and in all of these games is the reason why we build on our lead. i love that Spo is playing so many guys to keep them fresh and running. every player knows their role so no play calling means the defense wont figure it out until the game is pretty much over. Herro coming back will be an advantage not detriment because he is a pure score where he might have 25 pts over Mitchell's 16,6, 10 etc plus u have him fresh to come off the bench with that 2nd unit which might really make our bench potent and on steroids. this might be the year Spo finally gets COY for the reinvention


Should have been had one, like Bam should have a DPOY (and Wade should have an MVP :( ). But yes I hope this is the year for Spo. I hope this is also the year our fan base finally puts some respect on his name!
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