Celtics 2025-26, Season Thread

[Fierce1]

We are 0-3, this is the bad news. But, the good news, I was just pulling up the 3-man unit lineup data and it actually looks pretty darn good from the net rating perspective.

BROWN - WHITE - PRITCHARD = +21
WHITE - QUETA - PRITCHARD = +23
BROWN - WHITE - QUETA = +21
BROWN - QUETA - PRITCHARD = +27

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https://www.nba.com/stats/team/1610612738/lineups-advanced?GroupQuantity=3

Every three man grouping is a positive until you get down to Simons groupings. Pretty much all the SIMONS (and TILLMAN) combinations are deeply net negative. But honestly, this is not that bad, we are still mixing and matching with lineups and still trying to figure out how to use ANFERNEE

Just pretty encouraging actually. Play Amari and Shulga next, lets get some lineup data with them dudes!

edit: and our most-used 5-man lineup (Brown, White, Queta, Pritchard, Hauser) is DESTROYING the opposition. This lineup is net +52.8 in 25 mins ... so all is not lost, lol, not at all

Figuring out how to use Simons is a waste of time.

It's time Brad trades him.
He just doesn't fit in.

Another coach will be able to maximize Simons' scoring ability.
Joe doesn't know how to use Simons.

Simons is a Negative PG.
We need a Real 3rd PG.

My trade proposal since August:

Coby White and Vucevic for Simons, Hauser, and draft pick/s

[Parliament10]

Repost:

I think that we need to Pull our Two-Ways back from the G League (Preseason) and play them.
Send Scheierman & Walsh back to Maine.


Celtics Roster, 2025-26:
Starters: Pritchard - White - Brown - Boucher - Queta
Rotation: Simons - Gonzalez - Hauser - Minott - Tillman
Reserves: Scheierman - Walsh - Garza

Two-Ways: Shulga - Harper - Amari

[Parliament10]

Repost:

I think that we need to Pull our Two-Ways back from the G League (Preseason) and play them.
Send Scheierman & Walsh back to Maine.


Celtics Roster, 2025-26:
Starters: Pritchard - White - Brown - Boucher - Queta
Rotation: Simons - Gonzalez - Hauser - Minott - Tillman
Reserves: Scheierman - Walsh - Garza

Two-Ways: Shulga - Harper - Amari

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It's Preseason in Maine. The Two-Ways aren't going to get Waived from there.
So, bring them back up to the Corpse of the Boston Celtics, and help with resuscitation.

[itrsteve]

What I really like is that we’re not actually tanking on purpose. We’ll have Wizards and Jazz next week, that’ll be the bottom feeder litmus test.

The worse this gets the better I am with Tatum not coming back this season.

[cloverleaf]

Ah, jeez.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BF0xAwAxAkM

[cloverleaf]

What I really like is that we’re not actually tanking on purpose. We’ll have Wizards and Jazz next week, that’ll be the bottom feeder litmus test.

The worse this gets the better I am with Tatum not coming back this season.

Brad's an evil genius. Surely they looked to how the Warriors handled Curry's absence.

Has there ever been a team that let its top-3 centers go without any attempt at a real replacement?

[Larry_Russell]

What I really like is that we’re not actually tanking on purpose. We’ll have Wizards and Jazz next week, that’ll be the bottom feeder litmus test.

The worse this gets the better I am with Tatum not coming back this season.

Utahs front court will pummel this team.

[2Mas]

Some of us have been saying this all summer.

If we were trying to win, Brad woulda signed win now type players. The only player fits that criteria is Boucher to a degree.

Instead we signed dudes to multi yr deals, hoping to develop guys so next yr they out perform their deals when we try to win again.

We're hoping to develop Minott, so next year he can be a good backup to Tatum. We're looking to develop Garza, so next yr he can back up our top accusation next summer. Same way we did with Sam, Luke & PP.

Celts don't care about going 45-37. No moves they made tried to do that. We'll end up mid/low 30s. Get a top 10 pick & next yr we're back to being big dogs.

[redslastlaugh]

According to NBA.com tracking the Celtics are:

29th in cuts per game : 2.9 (GSW is 1st with 12 cuts per game)
30th in assits per game : 17.3 (DEN is 1st with 30.5 assists per game)
28th in 3PT % : 31.1% (PHI is 1st with 43%)
27th in total REBOUNDS : 39.0 (MIA is 1st with 51.3)
30th in OPPONENT OFF REB allowing : 16.7 (NYK allows opponents fewest OREB with 7.0)

Right now, we are not getting it done. OREB allowed and assists per game, CELTS are dead last, 30th of 30. Those are the two priorities, imo

[Hal14]

According to NBA.com tracking the Celtics are:

29th in cuts per game : 2.9 (GSW is 1st with 12 cuts per game)
30th in assits per game : 17.3 (DEN is 1st with 30.5 assists per game)
28th in 3PT % : 31.1% (PHI is 1st with 43%)
27th in total REBOUNDS : 39.0 (MIA is 1st with 51.3)
30th in OPPONENT OFF REB allowing : 16.7 (NYK allows opponents fewest OREB with 7.0)

Right now, we are not getting it done. OREB allowed and assists per game, CELTS are dead last, 30th of 30. Those are the two priorities, imo

3 game sample size..and all 3 games were vs teams who will likely be in the playoffs, including a Knicks team that could make the nba finals.

I'd say those stats are pretty much meaningless.

[Hal14]

We are 0-3, this is the bad news. But, the good news, I was just pulling up the 3-man unit lineup data and it actually looks pretty darn good from the net rating perspective.

BROWN - WHITE - PRITCHARD = +21
WHITE - QUETA - PRITCHARD = +23
BROWN - WHITE - QUETA = +21
BROWN - QUETA - PRITCHARD = +27

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https://www.nba.com/stats/team/1610612738/lineups-advanced?GroupQuantity=3

Every three man grouping is a positive until you get down to Simons groupings. Pretty much all the SIMONS (and TILLMAN) combinations are deeply net negative. But honestly, this is not that bad, we are still mixing and matching with lineups and still trying to figure out how to use ANFERNEE

Just pretty encouraging actually. Play Amari and Shulga next, lets get some lineup data with them dudes!

edit: and our most-used 5-man lineup (Brown, White, Queta, Pritchard, Hauser) is DESTROYING the opposition. This lineup is net +52.8 in 25 mins ... so all is not lost, lol, not at all

Figuring out how to use Simons is a waste of time.

It's time Brad trades him.
He just doesn't fit in.

Another coach will be able to maximize Simons' scoring ability.
Joe doesn't know how to use Simons.

Imagine saying that after 3 games

It often takes at least half a season for guys to really start finding a groove with a new team..

[31to6]

Ah, jeez.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BF0xAwAxAkM

wait -- is Jaylen's hair paint?
I'm all-natural, man. Age is cool. Don't be a (Carlos) Boozer or you'll ..color.. your legacy!

[redslastlaugh]

What I really like is that we’re not actually tanking on purpose. We’ll have Wizards and Jazz next week, that’ll be the bottom feeder litmus test.

The worse this gets the better I am with Tatum not coming back this season.

Brad's an evil genius. Surely they looked to how the Warriors handled Curry's absence.

Has there ever been a team that let its top-3 centers go without any attempt at a real replacement?

I mean, I wouldn't be looking to how GSW handled Curry's injury absence. They were able to acquire Wiggins because they got DLo for Kevin Durant going to BRK and used DLo to get Wiggins. Aside from that, they got 3 lottery picks are took James Wiseman, Kuminga and Moody who didnt contribute in any way to their 2022 championship.

The picks they made have been disasterous to this point -- though Moody is an NBA player & they could flip Kuminga into something useful. If they had taken Haliburton, Franz Wagner and Sengun then sure, cite them. But as it was, their transactions were suboptimal, most definitely

If we tank, get 3 lottery picks, and then absolutely tank the picks like Golden State did, that would be a disaster, lol

[redslastlaugh]

Ah, jeez.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/BF0xAwAxAkM

wait -- is Jaylen's hair paint?
I'm all-natural, man. Age is cool. Don't be a (Carlos) Boozer or you'll ..color.. your legacy!

lol, JB gotta get a grip on this shoe polish situation... don't fight it Jaylen!

[keevsnick1]

A couple thoughts:

The defense has actually been GOOD. Looking at cleaning the glass, they've allowed 85 points per 100 possessions in the halfcourt, that's good for 5th best in the league. And its not like they've been lucky with three-point defense, they are 14th in the league in opponent three point percentage so dead average.

The problem is they are 30th in the league in OREB% at 42.1% and 28th in the league at opponent points/miss meaning they both give up a lot of rebounds and get scored on a lot off those rebounds. That's really the whole story on defense, if they could get rebounds they'd be a well above average defense.

On offense the issue is much simpler. They don't take shots at the rim ranking 29th at just over 20% of their shots at the rim, but there's no real way to fix that with their current big situation. They do take a lot of threes being 4th in 3 point frequency but are 27th in accuracy at 31%. Now, I don't think White/Pritchard/Simons are going to struggle the way they have so far for the entire season, that 3 point percentage will for sure improve. Those guys are too good on volume to keep missing. Hitting their threes will greatly help the offense and also greatly lower the opponent transition frequency which has also been a problem. I expect they finish the year as a top 10 three point percentage team.

To Summarize: The Celtics have two main problems. They are missing threes and giving up OREB's. I think the missing shots thing will fix itself, they have good shooters who have just missed so far. The OREB problem will likely also slightly improve just because it can't get worse, but they may not have an answer to that until A) Tatum is back and B) They get a competent rebounding center.

How this all evens out will depend on EXACTY HOW BAD the OReb's stay. If they can get to "bad" and not "historically awful" they will be fine given that their defense actually looks solid. But all in all if Simons/White/Pritchard just shoot their career averages the Celtics are 2-1 right now.

[redslastlaugh]

According to NBA.com tracking the Celtics are:

29th in cuts per game : 2.9 (GSW is 1st with 12 cuts per game)
30th in assits per game : 17.3 (DEN is 1st with 30.5 assists per game)
28th in 3PT % : 31.1% (PHI is 1st with 43%)
27th in total REBOUNDS : 39.0 (MIA is 1st with 51.3)
30th in OPPONENT OFF REB allowing : 16.7 (NYK allows opponents fewest OREB with 7.0)

Right now, we are not getting it done. OREB allowed and assists per game, CELTS are dead last, 30th of 30. Those are the two priorities, imo

3 game sample size..and all 3 games were vs teams who will likely be in the playoffs, including a Knicks team that could make the nba finals.

I'd say those stats are pretty much meaningless.

The shooting is meaningless given only 3 games. The offensive rebounding is just numbers showing what we all witnessed, likely to persist regardless of competition. And the cutting is independent of the competition. The players can move no matter the opponent, it's not dependent on competition. The assists is something to be aware of.

[Hal14]

According to NBA.com tracking the Celtics are:

29th in cuts per game : 2.9 (GSW is 1st with 12 cuts per game)
30th in assits per game : 17.3 (DEN is 1st with 30.5 assists per game)
28th in 3PT % : 31.1% (PHI is 1st with 43%)
27th in total REBOUNDS : 39.0 (MIA is 1st with 51.3)
30th in OPPONENT OFF REB allowing : 16.7 (NYK allows opponents fewest OREB with 7.0)

Right now, we are not getting it done. OREB allowed and assists per game, CELTS are dead last, 30th of 30. Those are the two priorities, imo

3 game sample size..and all 3 games were vs teams who will likely be in the playoffs, including a Knicks team that could make the nba finals.

I'd say those stats are pretty much meaningless.

The shooting is meaningless given only 3 games. The offensive rebounding is just numbers showing what we all witnessed, likely to persist regardless of competition. And the cutting is independent of the competition. The players can move no matter the opponent, it's not dependent on competition. The assists is something to be aware of.

None of it needs to be aware of on a 3 game sample size. Just my opinion

[playa-hater]

According to NBA.com tracking the Celtics are:

29th in cuts per game : 2.9 (GSW is 1st with 12 cuts per game)
30th in assits per game : 17.3 (DEN is 1st with 30.5 assists per game)
28th in 3PT % : 31.1% (PHI is 1st with 43%)
27th in total REBOUNDS : 39.0 (MIA is 1st with 51.3)
30th in OPPONENT OFF REB allowing : 16.7 (NYK allows opponents fewest OREB with 7.0)

Right now, we are not getting it done. OREB allowed and assists per game, CELTS are dead last, 30th of 30. Those are the two priorities, imo

Not cutting is a product of joe's system. Iso-ball three point chucking ..I don't need a three game sample size to prove that. Just look at the last few years, and especially in crunch time.

[Parliament10]

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