BrandHIM Miller: The Brandon Miller Thread

[wilson115]

This is a big part I didn't understand the anti-Ace takes, which team in the NBA is against having two 6-8 wings that can shoot, defend and score.

You mean like the ones we drafted #2 and #6 two years straight? Begs the question if you aren't trying to oversimplify things for your agenda.

I can't even tell what this sentence is trying to say

Explains a lot.

[JMAC3]

You mean like the ones we drafted #2 and #6 two years straight? Begs the question if you aren't trying to oversimplify things for your agenda.

I can't even tell what this sentence is trying to say

Explains a lot.

Guess we will never know what you were trying to say.

[Braggins]

Apparently the NBA website updated a bunch of players heights from the Hornets on their website and Miller's has been changed from 6'7" to... wait for it... 6'6"... LaMelo was increased to 6'7".

Ive been adament that I didn't think Miller was literally 6'10" like a lot of you have been saying, but I always thought 6'7" seemed a bit short for him and I didn't really buy it. No way I am buying he is 6'6" and shorter than both LaMelo and Miles.

What the hell is going on with this?

[fatlever]

Apparently the NBA website updated a bunch of players heights from the Hornets on their website and Miller's has been changed from 6'7" to... wait for it... 6'6"... LaMelo was increased to 6'7".

Ive been adament that I didn't think Miller was literally 6'10" like a lot of you have been saying, but I always thought 6'7" seemed a bit short for him and I didn't really buy it. No way I am buying he is 6'6" and shorter than both LaMelo and Miles.

What the hell is going on with this?

We been discussing in preseason thread

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[Chapelchilla]

I think he is at least 6'9" this year. Still too lanky but he taller. Not quite but close to Durants size and similar build.

[JustBuzzin]

6'10 stop asking

[Diop]

Read on Twitter

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I hope this turns out to be something really minor, as injuring yourself this easily is a red flag for me

[fatlever]

mentally preparing for lengthy miller shoulder injury

[Bassman]

How the heck do you displace or damage your shoulder badly on that movement as a 23 year old? I’m starting to wonder if Brandon has a body that struggles with stress on tendons and other connective tissues?

[JDR720]

Hopefully its nothing major. From that clip, if it is, then Brandon must be made of glass. That same type of play happens dozens of times a game.

[EmpireFalls]

Miller rapidly overtaking LaMelo as our most fragile player. I mean you can’t be serious with this ****

[KingCat]

Yeah Miller is one of my favorite players and I think be could be a huge difference maker for us, but we gotta consider his long term future with all these injuries.

To me this feels different than Melo. With Melo I get the sense that a ton of games he missed was cause we were looking to tank. For Miller this is back to back seasons where he goes down with in the first two games. Maybe its my bias with Melo showing since he gives us a massive market boost but man im super concerned over Miller.

[yosemiteben]

Read on Twitter

IMO better to wait and see how serious the injury is before we jump to conclusions about what this injury means.

[Diop]

i get what you're saying YB, but it puts him off the untouchable ledge for me. If there is a someone we really want and they insisted on Miller I would consider it. I wouldn't shop him, that kills value but I wouldn't hang up if a good offer came in.

i know it might be a knee jerk reaction, but trying to think how these GM's must have to be successful. you're investing 100s of millions $ into players of Millers caliber and the teams success relies greatly upon the reliability of your max players.
So when i start seeing concerns while still on their rookie contracts, if you can swap him for a safer bet (very unlikely I know) I would consider it.

hopefully its bugger all, they are just being cautious and he plays 70 games this year

[JustBuzzin]

i get what you're saying YB, but it puts him off the untouchable ledge for me. If there is a someone we really want and they insisted on Miller I would consider it. I wouldn't shop him, that kills value but I wouldn't hang up if a good offer came in.

i know it might be a knee jerk reaction, but trying to think how these GM's must have to be successful. you're investing 100s of millions $ into players of Millers caliber and the teams success relies greatly upon the reliability of your max players.
So when i start seeing concerns while still on their rookie contracts, if you can swap him for a safer bet (very unlikely I know) I would consider it.

hopefully its bugger all, they are just being cautious and he plays 70 games this year

As the biggest Miller fanboy on the board so they say...

I said before the season if Kon proves to be legit, which is looking like it so far I wouldn't rule out trading Miller if it meant getting back a real difference maker.

Saying that I don't think a difference maker will become available that would realistically want to play here.

Giannis comes to mind, but there is no indication he would want to play in Charlotte.

[fatlever]

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Continued evaluation revealed that Brandon Miller suffered a "left shoulder subluxation," team says.

He will miss the game against the Miami Heat tomorrow and be reevaluated after the team's current road trip.

[fatlever]

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[fatlever]

chatgpt deep dive

Shoulder Subluxation Recovery in NBA Players

A shoulder subluxation (partial dislocation) typically heals faster than a full dislocation. In general, players immobilize the shoulder briefly (often 1–2 weeks in a sling) and then begin range-of-motion exercises. Orthopedic sources note that regaining full range of motion after a subluxation “may take several weeks,” and complete recovery can take months
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. In the NBA literature, non‐operative treatment of subluxations usually leads to a return in roughly 3–4 weeks. For example, Lu et al. (2020) reported that NBA players treated non-surgically for shoulder subluxations returned in an average of 3.6 weeks (about one month)
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
. Experts have echoed this, estimating a “three-to-four week return-to-play timeline” for an isolated shoulder subluxation
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. Media accounts of actual NBA cases align with that: when Stephen Curry subluxated his left shoulder in Dec 2022 (no surgery), the Warriors expected him to miss on the order of one month
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. In practice, many mild subluxations allow an athlete to resume basketball activity in roughly 2–6 weeks, depending on pain control and rehab intensity.

Non-Operative vs. Operative Recovery

Recovery time varies sharply if surgery is required. Most subluxations are treated without surgery, but if the injury causes a significant labral tear or instability, a surgeon may tighten the joint (e.g. arthroscopic Bankart repair). In NBA studies, players who underwent surgical stabilization missed far longer. Lu et al. found that NBA players having shoulder surgery took about 19 weeks (≈4–5 months) to return
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. By contrast, non‑surgical cases returned in under a month on average
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
. Similarly, general sports-medicine guidance warns that surgical repair can sideline an athlete for 4–6+ months. For example, Kevin Love’s left shoulder dislocation (2015) required surgery and kept him out ~4–6 months
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. A recent orthopedic source estimates that after surgery the sling phase is ~2–3 weeks, with full return to high-level sports taking 6+ months
centerforspecialtycare.com
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.

In summary, a lone shoulder subluxation (with no significant labral tear) usually means only a few weeks off. But if imaging shows a tear and surgery is done, recovery typically extends several months. In Lu et al.’s series, nonoperative subluxations returned in ~3.6 weeks, whereas operative cases averaged ~19 weeks
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. (Another series reported an average of ~7–8 weeks for dislocations without surgery
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.) Thus, expected recovery time ranges roughly from 2–6 weeks (non‐surgical subluxation) up to 4–6+ months (if surgery is needed)
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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NBA Player Examples (Last 10 Years)

Stephen Curry (GSW, Dec 2022): Suffered a left shoulder subluxation. MRI ruled out a labral tear, so he avoided surgery. The team reported he would miss “about a month,” and he indeed returned after roughly 4 weeks of rehab
cbssports.com
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Ja Morant (MEM, Dec 2023): Had a shoulder subluxation (right side) during practice. An MRI revealed a torn labrum, so he underwent season-ending surgery. He missed the rest of the season and was projected to be fully recovered by next year’s training camp
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. This illustrates that a subluxation with a labral tear can lead to 6+ months out.

Jalen Johnson (ATL, Jan 2025): Tore the labrum in his left shoulder (during game contact). The Hawks announced season-ending surgery, meaning he missed the rest of the year and will be ready for the next season
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Brandon Miller (CHA, Oct 2025): Diagnosed with a left shoulder subluxation in a game. He missed subsequent games and was undergoing re-evaluation
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. (His case was still being assessed at the time of report.)

(Others): In past seasons, similar injuries have been reported. For instance, Dwyane Wade missed 23 games with a left shoulder dislocation in 2008 (older, but noted by media
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). More recently, players like Luka Doncic and Kevin Love have undergone surgery for dislocated/labral injuries (4–6 month recoveries)
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. While those were full dislocations, they underscore how a complex shoulder injury differs from a simple subluxation in recovery time.

Sources: Medical studies and NBA reports show that non-surgical subluxations typically sideline an NBA player only a few weeks
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
cbssports.com
, whereas surgery (for associated labral tears) often means missing the remainder of the season (4–6 months)
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
espn.com
. These conclusions are drawn from peer-reviewed sports-med literature and recent NBA injury news.

[SWedd523]

Brandon gonna miss a month because he stuck his arm out

[fatlever]

Brandon gonna miss a month because he stuck his arm out

basically
best case, not torn = 3 weeks, no surgery
worst case, torn = 6 months, surgry