World Series Game 3 - Toronto at LA - The Comebackening

[brwnman]

It wasn't and nobody should ever manage a tied WS game just assuming there will be extras

But nobody is willing to admit that now, need their scapegoat

It’s a ridiculous notion to assume a game is going to extras in that scenario.

So you assumed we would score. I see. And you were prepared to burn everything down based on that assumption. Got it. And you’re not ridiculous.

You play to score there, yes. You don’t play for extra innings. You don’t play for a scenario that may not happen.

[dchoye]

Congrats to both teams for Hard fought game
Blue Jays came up too Little too late

[Randle McMurphy]

Congrats to both teams for Hard fought game
Blue Jays came up too Little too late

I see what you did there

[Hottie McShotty]

Heartbreaking loss. Ohtani is truly exceptional as an athlete. 4 extra base hits in a World Series game is just insane! Why bother pitching to him again? Just walk him next time. Everyone here likely agrees that tonight's game is a must-win. If we fall behind 3-1, I really don't think we have much of a chance to win it all.

[WuTang_CMB]

Wow 18 ?

[dh_45]

I thought this would be the weakest game for the jays with scherzer. The fact that they went 18 innings with them is very positive I think the Jays are still right in this series

[CPT]

It’s hard to tell what kind of impact this 18 inning games will have on the rest of the series.

Both teams emptied their bullpens (maybe LA slightly more so?) and there will be a physical and mental toll on the both rosters.

Maybe it’s too silver lining, but the Jays hung around for 18 innings under less than ideal conditions.

I would love to see it serve as a rallying cry with LA coming out kind of flat. Jays win game 4 and retake the momentum. At the same time, I can’t say I’d be surprised if the Jays just fold and don’t even make it back to Toronto.

We’ll see what happens in game 4.

[M3tro]

I crashed out before the start of the 18th and luckily so...such a demoralizing loss that will be hard to recover from.

[Mehar]

Congrats to both teams for Hard fought game
Blue Jays came up too Little too late

Hopefully it is the last time we see "Little" pitch as a Jay, unless it is a blowout in one of the remaining games. He was lucky to survive the 17th, and you know Schneider pretty much waved the White Flag by bringing him out for the 18th.

A shame that you had to count on guys like Straw, Heineman, and IKF to produce for you in a World Series game which went to extra innings.

[WuTang_CMB]

Schneider is a goof. U only make subs when game is out of reach. 2 run lead means fk all in world series vs dodgers. Barger shoulda never been subbmed out. Guy has been one of our top guys. Schenider again mis managing thinks its regular season.

[Mehar]

Schneider is a goof. U only make subs when game is out of reach. 2 run lead means fk all in world series vs dodgers. Barger shoulda never been subbmed out. Guy has been one of our top guys. Schenider again mis managing thinks its regular season.

Especially with Springer out, and then Bo and Kirk out of the game also.

[Tripod]

Wrong, Kirk was in the game until the 12th

And the fact that it was tied was even a greater reason to do it, we needed that run and Straw's baserunning (which is elite) could have aided in that

Point remains that Barger isn't exactly slow. He can score from second. And Springer was gone already. Barger plays outfield for us. He's not a slow player where you gotta pinch run for him when we don't have the lead.

Why didnt the Dodgers start moving in their bench players? They kept the original lineup and didn't take away from their offense.

It didn't work out for Schneider and I'm hardly the only one talking about it. Even the USA broadcast mentioned it.

Straw is one of the best baserunners in baseball, he's miles faster and better than Barger in that respect

There are loads of scenarios where that could have benefited us in scoring a run there, a run that likely wins the game for us. It's not a bad move whatsoever and it's not a move anybody has complained about all season when we've literally done the same thing with Straw dozens of times.

And the Dodgers did move out several of their starters, just not as many as we did (because not as many of theirs got injured or are pylons on the bases). They also almost lost a half dozen times themselves.

You keep saying "we did this all season".

It's **** different. It's the WS. You don't get guys starting at 2nd every inning which helps finish games.

And again, you lost Springer. You lost Bo. You have to look at the whole picture.

[Top10alltime]

7-5 Jays

I'm disappointed in you.

[Top10alltime]

It’s hard to tell what kind of impact this 18 inning games will have on the rest of the series.

Both teams emptied their bullpens (maybe LA slightly more so?) and there will be a physical and mental toll on the both rosters.

Maybe it’s too silver lining, but the Jays hung around for 18 innings under less than ideal conditions.

I would love to see it serve as a rallying cry with LA coming out kind of flat. Jays win game 4 and retake the momentum. At the same time, I can’t say I’d be surprised if the Jays just fold and don’t even make it back to Toronto.

We’ll see what happens in game 4.

That won't happen. Blue Jays let Ohtani get 5 walks (for a reason), so he'll be all fired up and ready to go when batting. Ohtani > Bieber in pitching.

I thought Ohtani was choking this series but apparently it was a 2 game slump. He's back, and at the Brewers series level.

We lost because John Schneider goofy ahh subbed out Barger and put Little instead of Jose Berrios. It's a miracle we made it to the finals with this coach.

So long Jays, it was a nice run for us. We're losing.

[Parataxis]

It’s hard to tell what kind of impact this 18 inning games will have on the rest of the series.

Both teams emptied their bullpens (maybe LA slightly more so?) and there will be a physical and mental toll on the both rosters.

Maybe it’s too silver lining, but the Jays hung around for 18 innings under less than ideal conditions.

I would love to see it serve as a rallying cry with LA coming out kind of flat. Jays win game 4 and retake the momentum. At the same time, I can’t say I’d be surprised if the Jays just fold and don’t even make it back to Toronto.

We’ll see what happens in game 4.

Also, notably, is that Ohtani played 18 innings (DH, but still) while Bieber got to rest. And likewise, Kirk played one game, while fresh prince spent a combined three hours squatting.

Would have rather been on the other side of the column yesterday, but this series is far from over.

[Parataxis]

Schneider is a goof. U only make subs when game is out of reach. 2 run lead means fk all in world series vs dodgers. Barger shoulda never been subbmed out. Guy has been one of our top guys. Schenider again mis managing thinks its regular season.

Nah, all of the position player substitutions made sense at the time, and were good decisions.

The one thing that I would have done differently (and was saying this back in the 8th) was that Bassitt should have stayed in an extra inning or two - he was pitching well, and has the ability to go multiple innings.

But, whatever, it was what it was.

[DelAbbot]

Schneider lost us this. Don't even blame Little.

Ya it’s 90% on Schneider

Heineman honestly isn’t even that much faster than Kirk. Like come on man… what are we doing here

I said this same thing then realized it's because Hotdog didn't want Kirk catch into extra innings, which turned out to be correct. Kirk would have squatted for 18 innings

[WuTang_CMB]

Schneider is a goof. U only make subs when game is out of reach. 2 run lead means fk all in world series vs dodgers. Barger shoulda never been subbmed out. Guy has been one of our top guys. Schenider again mis managing thinks its regular season.

Nah, all of the position player substitutions made sense at the time, and were good decisions.

The one thing that I would have done differently (and was saying this back in the 8th) was that Bassitt should have stayed in an extra inning or two - he was pitching well, and has the ability to go multiple innings.

But, whatever, it was what it was.

nah not even close, especially in a high stakes game like that. Barger has not only proved to be a good offensive player, he's been great in the outfield. The lead meant nothing, especially with our bullpen. That was a misfire. But we lost the game in other ways as well.

[Basketball_Jones]

I checked out at the 15th I think? Saw Little warming up and it was inevitable already but that sealed the deal. To my surprise they stuck with Lauer for a while longer his arm is cooked lol.

[Mehar]

Point remains that Barger isn't exactly slow. He can score from second. And Springer was gone already. Barger plays outfield for us. He's not a slow player where you gotta pinch run for him when we don't have the lead.

Why didnt the Dodgers start moving in their bench players? They kept the original lineup and didn't take away from their offense.

It didn't work out for Schneider and I'm hardly the only one talking about it. Even the USA broadcast mentioned it.

Straw is one of the best baserunners in baseball, he's miles faster and better than Barger in that respect

There are loads of scenarios where that could have benefited us in scoring a run there, a run that likely wins the game for us. It's not a bad move whatsoever and it's not a move anybody has complained about all season when we've literally done the same thing with Straw dozens of times.

And the Dodgers did move out several of their starters, just not as many as we did (because not as many of theirs got injured or are pylons on the bases). They also almost lost a half dozen times themselves.

You keep saying "we did this all season".

It's **** different. It's the WS. You don't get guys starting at 2nd every inning which helps finish games.

And again, you lost Springer. You lost Bo. You have to look at the whole picture.

I was going to mention this early. You can do these moves "all season" especially at home, when you have a runner on Second Base in extra innings. All you need is one run to win a game. Playoffs are a different beast.

I understand you did not want Kirk squatting much longer, but the Barger move for Straw is the one that you should not have made at all in a tie game, with the likely chance this game might go to extra innings. Barger is not exactly slow like Kirk. What is done is done.

On the positive sign, the bullpen did its job minus Little (who should not pitch again in a close game). I am hoping Davis Schneider gets the chance to start at Second Base, with IKF on the bench. Bo should be DH with Springer out. Hoping this team can rebound tonight after a tough loss.