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Knicks could use some kind of deadline trade to improve the team. Giannis would be nice, but maybe there's a wing who can create or shoot that is available for....actually I don't know who the Knicks can trade. Mitch? Not sure I'd trust KAT/Huk/Jamison to hold the middle down on a playoff team, but Mitch is 50/50 on playing anyway so maybe him.
He's essentially the only asset the Knicks can spare, outside of Dadiet. Pretty sure Dadiet's 2.8 million $ slot isn't returning a good player, not one a team is looking to move anyway.
He's essentially the only asset the Knicks can spare, outside of Dadiet. Pretty sure Dadiet's 2.8 million $ slot isn't returning a good player, not one a team is looking to move anyway.

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"...but maybe there's a wing who can create or shoot that is available for..." Tobias Harris?

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Now that we’re out of the Giannis sweepstakes
Kat for Sabonis and Ellis!
Kat for Sabonis and Ellis!
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KAT clearly isn't intouchable imo. I'm not sure Sabo is the counterpart. Obviously Knicks fans would like to sell high, eg, on Giannis.
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Fat wrote:Now that we’re out of the Giannis sweepstakes
Kat for Sabonis and Ellis!
I think the Kings hold the upper hand and would keep Ellis
Knicks would be the ones adding young assets to get Sabonis
Sabonis makes $12 million a year less than KAT
$12 million is the difference between the 1st apron and 2nd apron
If the Knicks decide that our 3 most important players are Jalen, Mikal, and OG, then getting Sabonis makes too much sense. Especially if Mike Brown is implementing his system and everyone is fitting into it except KAT.
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HarthorneWingo wrote:dakomish23 wrote:We desperately need bench help
December 15
I have one target that I think would do wonders. IDK how we do it if we have to match dollar for dollar but I would make us the title favorites if we got him back to the core - DDV
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
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Fat wrote:Now that we’re out of the Giannis sweepstakes
Kat for Sabonis and Ellis!
We'd prob have to throw in Dadiet + a few 2nd rounders but I like it.
Then we could start Sabonis, OG, Mikal, Ellis, and JB and have Deuce as the super 6th man.
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dakomish23 wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:dakomish23 wrote:We desperately need bench help
December 15
I have one target that I think would do wonders. IDK how we do it if we have to match dollar for dollar but I would make us the title favorites if we got him back to the core - DDV
That’s a nice thought.
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dakomish23 wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:dakomish23 wrote:We desperately need bench help
December 15
I have one target that I think would do wonders. IDK how we do it if we have to match dollar for dollar but I would make us the title favorites if we got him back to the core - DDV
you think the difference between us being the favorite and okc being the favorite is ddv ?........................no
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sabonis got the same defensive liabilities at kat. y'all gotta stop.
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god shammgod wrote:sabonis got the same defensive liabilities at kat. y'all gotta stop.
I'm up for this game though (even though its way to early in the process). I agree on Sabonis (and then he provides zero spacing and the rebounding is basically a wash you would get more playmaking though).
So who are realistic trade candidates
Lets not do Giannis because he's not moving this year if MIL is playing well.
And for example your not getting Bam for KAT. But what would be a realistic trade where you net a similar impact type player (maybe could even be less offense but more defense) and the money obviously has to work as well. Doesn't have to be a 1 for 1 trade but roughly trying to get a sense of what players are close to equal value for KAT.
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KAT for Lebron…
Ducks head*
Ducks head*
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KnicksGadfly wrote:KAT for Lebron…
Ducks head*
I don't think the Knicks would because of there lack of big man depth. And then you also have the fact that LeBron contract is expiring. This would leave a huge hole on the roster that we wouldn't be able to fill. We are operating just under the 2nd apron. LeBron contract coming off the books would put us right around the 150 MM range and then the salary cap being at 166 or projected to be. That would basically leave us MLE type cap space and down an all-star caliber player. That wouldn't be ideal cap management.
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ROSTER
Walker Kessler/Daniel Gafford/Adem Bona
Nikola Jokic/Santi Aldama/Isaiah Stewart
Aaron Nesmith/Josh Hart/Jaime Jaquez
Alex Caruso/Keon Ellis/Justin Champagnie
Steph Curry/Chris Paul/Ryan Rollins
ROSTER
Walker Kessler/Daniel Gafford/Adem Bona
Nikola Jokic/Santi Aldama/Isaiah Stewart
Aaron Nesmith/Josh Hart/Jaime Jaquez
Alex Caruso/Keon Ellis/Justin Champagnie
Steph Curry/Chris Paul/Ryan Rollins
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Suns: KAT, Mitch, Yabu, Clarkson, Dadiet
Knicks: Brooks, Middleton, M.Williams, Royce, Dunn
Wizards: J.Green
Brunson | Deuce | Kolek
Mikal | Middleton | Shamet
Brooks | Royce | Diawara
OG | Hart | Dunn
Williams | Huk | Jemison
Save 40m this summer when Khris n Mark come off the books…
Knicks: Brooks, Middleton, M.Williams, Royce, Dunn
Wizards: J.Green
Brunson | Deuce | Kolek
Mikal | Middleton | Shamet
Brooks | Royce | Diawara
OG | Hart | Dunn
Williams | Huk | Jemison
Save 40m this summer when Khris n Mark come off the books…
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Towns is a keeper if not for Giannis.
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Enough with the big names, would require too much & then we’d be trying to fix THAT hole……what about Jay Huff and/or Santi Aldama?
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I am also unsure about the Brunson - KAT pairing to win a chip because both are defensive weak links and you sure not giving up on Brunson
If we are trading for Giannis though you also need to get rid of Mitch and Hart they cant coexist together, and we will be lacking even more depth so there is no point. We have to fix the bench and expand the rotation that is a must
If we are trading for Giannis though you also need to get rid of Mitch and Hart they cant coexist together, and we will be lacking even more depth so there is no point. We have to fix the bench and expand the rotation that is a must

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Towns, McBride for Trae young & KP
Brunson for Giannis!
Trae young
Mikal bridges
OG Anunoby
Giannis Antetokoumpo
Kristaps porzingis
!!!
Brunson for Giannis!
Trae young
Mikal bridges
OG Anunoby
Giannis Antetokoumpo
Kristaps porzingis
!!!
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Fat wrote:Towns, McBride for Trae young & KP
Brunson for Giannis!
Trae young
Mikal bridges
OG Anunoby
Giannis Antetokoumpo
Kristaps porzingis
!!!

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god shammgod wrote:sabonis got the same defensive liabilities at kat. y'all gotta stop.
If it's the same defensive liabilities but not any worse, then Sabonis might have more value than KAT to the Knicks for a number of reasons
1. Makes $12 million less than KAT, and Sabonis' contribution to winning is extremely close in value.
2. Mike Brown already knows how to coach Sabonis, are Sabonis knows how to play for Mike Brown. You have Brown right now trying to turn KAT into Sabonis-like passer. It would probably be easier to just get Sabonis for Brown's system.
3. Sabonis is more likely to develop a two-man game with Brunson than KAT has
















