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Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon

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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#1861 » by nate33 » Tue Oct 28, 2025 2:45 pm

Tyrone Messby wrote:I mean as moreso why ship out a young key piece? Wasn’t the argument that he wasn’t a new regime piece? You could probably get a second at least for Kispert. Just no real reason to trade Deni other than “not being your guy.”

We have 93 pages on this thread discussing this.

The bottom line is that they wanted to bottom out for a few years and accumulate high draft picks and they were worried that Deni might be too good to make tanking possible. So they tried to be cute and trade him for what they thought was "selling high". The problem was they should have waited a year because it was obvious that Deni was in the middle of a break out and the league hadn't yet figured out how good he was.

I get the rationale for the trade, it was the timing that was off. There was no need whatsoever to rush it and do it last summer. You don't trade a 23-year-old just as the his production curve has gone vertical.
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#1862 » by montestewart » Tue Oct 28, 2025 2:57 pm

nate33 wrote:
Tyrone Messby wrote:I mean as moreso why ship out a young key piece? Wasn’t the argument that he wasn’t a new regime piece? You could probably get a second at least for Kispert. Just no real reason to trade Deni other than “not being your guy.”

We have 93 pages on this thread discussing this.

The bottom line is that they wanted to bottom out for a few years and accumulate high draft picks and they were worried that Deni might be too good to make tanking possible. So they tried to be cute and trade him for what they thought was "selling high". The problem was they should have waited a year because it was obvious that Deni was in the middle of a break out and the league hadn't yet figured out how good he was.

I get the rationale for the trade, it was the timing that was off. There was no need whatsoever to rush it and do it last summer. You don't trade a 23-year-old just as the his production curve has gone vertical.

Saw the box this morning and knew there'd be some action in this thread. Avdija's playing like he wants to see a Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon Pt 4
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#1863 » by payitforward » Tue Oct 28, 2025 3:08 pm

nate33 wrote:
Tyrone Messby wrote:I mean as moreso why ship out a young key piece? Wasn’t the argument that he wasn’t a new regime piece? You could probably get a second at least for Kispert. Just no real reason to trade Deni other than “not being your guy.”

We have 93 pages on this thread discussing this.

The bottom line is that they wanted to bottom out for a few years and accumulate high draft picks and they were worried that Deni might be too good to make tanking possible. So they tried to be cute and trade him for what they thought was "selling high". The problem was they should have waited a year because it was obvious that Deni was in the middle of a break out and the league hadn't yet figured out how good he was.

I get the rationale for the trade, it was the timing that was off. There was no need whatsoever to rush it and do it last summer. You don't trade a 23-year-old just as the his production curve has gone vertical.

Actually, this is pretty much the most sensible post in 94 pages....
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#1864 » by Kanyewest » Tue Oct 28, 2025 4:07 pm

TGW wrote:Deni is +1600 to be MIP. Wonder if I should make the bet.


ESPN has him listed at +1300
Kyshawn is at +1800

(I'm wondering if these numbers are up to date)
https://www.espn.com/nba/futures/_/group/award
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Re: Woj: Deni to Portland for 14th pick and Brogdon 

Post#1865 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Fri Oct 31, 2025 8:09 pm

Kanyewest wrote:
TGW wrote:Deni is +1600 to be MIP. Wonder if I should make the bet.


ESPN has him listed at +1300
Kyshawn is at +1800

(I'm wondering if these numbers are up to date)
https://www.espn.com/nba/futures/_/group/award


I feel fairly confident that Deni hasn't even played anything close to his A game so far this season either, so if I bet it wouldn't be a bad one to take. I've watched all of Portland's games this season, and while he's been consistent and their best player, he seems like he hasn't even kicked it into top gears. He's usually a slow starter to the season too, so I think we are going to see him pick it up even more over the next 2 months.

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