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Re: Is Trae Young on the way out? 

Post#201 » by Jamaaliver » Sun Oct 26, 2025 10:43 pm

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Brett Siegel wrote:The Hawks are willing to wait and see how everything develops this year with a roster they believe can finish as a top-four seed in the Eastern Conference. At no point has Atlanta considered trading Young, as the internal hope is that common ground will be found on a new deal next offseason, sources said.
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Re: Is Trae Young on the way out? 

Post#202 » by jayu70 » Mon Oct 27, 2025 5:20 pm

Why this season is so important for Trae Young and the Hawks

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THE EMORY SPORTS Medicine Complex practice courts are quiet after just about all the Atlanta Hawks players have left for the day.

But Trae Young, sitting near the baseline of the two practice courts, can always hear the noise and chatter that surrounds him.

Entering his eighth season, Young is beloved in Atlanta. But his critics, from Patrick Beverley to anonymous online trolls, constantly chirp.

Young can practically recite the gripes against him: "I can't adjust my game. I can't play with this guy or this guy.

"I mean, it's very comical to me," Young says. "It's very funny. There's so many things, man."

After coming within two wins of reaching the NBA Finals in 2020-21, Young and the Hawks have been in four straight play-in tournaments, losing in the first round twice before failing to make it to the postseason the past two years.

BEFORE THE START of the Hawks' second day of training camp, the team's weight room is livelier than normal. Young, now one of the older vets on the team at 27, is jumping around, high-fiving teammates and getting them pumped up before hitting the weights.

"I will say there definitely is a new sense of energy with Trae this year," Okongwu, who is entering his sixth season, told ESPN. "He's always had that, but it's different this year. He's really taking that leap forward in terms of leadership. He's really trying to galvanize the show. We have a really young team, so he's trying to be the guy to lead the youngins and to be a voice for the guys in the locker room.

"Just in terms of communication, I've heard him more this year than I have in previous years, and I commend him for that."

During training camp, Johnson took note of how much Young "has just been smiling." Nothing can dampen Young's excitement about his teammates this season -- not even Beverley.

Two weeks earlier, Patrick Beverley was questioning Young's ability to lead and win. In a brief online beef, the former Clipper said he talked to some of Young's former teammates who questioned his leadership and didn't like playing with the point guard.

Young responded on his podcast by telling Beverley to "state your source" and that he was never intimidated when facing "Patty Bev" -- a standout defender during his 12 seasons.

"He brought us home," Johnson said.

When it comes to silencing the naysayers, perhaps it is not surprising that the Hawks star -- wearing an OU hoodie at the Hawks practice facility -- looks to another famous former Oklahoma Sooner signal-caller as an example.

"You see it playing right now with another OU guy with Baker Mayfield and what winning does for somebody," Young said of the quarterback who has changed the public's perception of himself by guiding the Tampa Bay Buccaneers to consecutive playoff appearances since 2024 and a 6-2 record this season. "I get chills talking about it. I know what I can do or what the image of me looks like once I just win.

"Win again."

It's been more than four years since Young became a New York villain and took a bow at Madison Square Garden, waving goodbye to Knicks fans after eliminating New York in five games in the first round in 2021. That was the start of a surprising run to the Eastern Conference Finals in just his third season.

Perhaps Young thought there would be many more deep playoff runs with clutch shotmaking after that. He isn't taking this chance -- with the best cast he's had around him -- for granted.

"I'm willing to give up the ball," Young said. "It's just you have to have the guys that are out there that want the ball first to make a play, and two, that can draw certain attention when they do get the ball.

"I feel like we got that now."

The week before camp started, Snyder and Young met to discuss their approach for this season. Both men mentioned the word "efficiency" during their talk. Young averaged 11.6 assists but shot a career-low 41.1% from the field and led the league with 4.7 turnovers last season.

"The keyword for Trae is efficiency," Snyder said. "I think what you are going to see is Trae having to feel the game in a way. ... There's games that's going to mean scoring more. There's games where he will be passing more. The constants will be him forcing pace, not just pushing the ball off the dribble but passing ahead. He was one of the best at passing ahead, if not the best.

"The other thing he has to do every night is be efficient defensively ... One of the things we did talk about was me challenging him ... He wants to get better every year."

While teams like Cleveland and New York have had more time together and are expected to be the top two teams in the East, the Hawks hope that they'll eventually soar at the right time to make some noise in the postseason.

If that happens, Young might finally hush the haters like his fellow formerly maligned Sooner quarterback.

"People may get the wrong perception of us because of what you see on social media or what somebody may say about you," Young said. "I understand Baker, when they say, he's a hothead [or] he's crazy. But then when you're winning, now he's a dawg. He's competitive. The whole perspective changes just because you win. That's my main focus. I just want to win.

"That'll change all the narratives."



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Re: Is Trae Young on the way out? 

Post#203 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Oct 27, 2025 6:12 pm

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Why this season is so important for Trae Young and the Hawks

Young, who has a $49 million player option for next season, wants to show Atlanta he is a superstar talent worth the four-year, $229 million max extension he is eligible for.

But in this restrictive second-apron era, Atlanta will wait on an extension. By waiting, the Hawks can see how things go with this retooled roster and still maintain flexibility in case things don't go well, giving them the option to take a new route and build around a promising young core of developing talent. The Hawks and Kristaps Porzingis are also going to wait on a potential extension and see how this season goes.

For Young, the All-Star can explore his options next summer if he does not get an extension later this season. That means he'll have to get used to not having control of his immediate future.

"I think it's going to be great. I'm not worried about it," Young told ESPN when asked about entering the season without an extension.





I really am nervous about the next 7 months -- probably the most nervous since that 2018 draft night.
What plays out over the next season+ will dictate what direction this franchise goes in for the next decade.


I'm honestly unsure what will happen...or even what I want to happen.
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Re: Is Trae Young on the way out? 

Post#204 » by jayu70 » Mon Oct 27, 2025 6:27 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
jayu70 wrote:
Why this season is so important for Trae Young and the Hawks

Young, who has a $49 million player option for next season, wants to show Atlanta he is a superstar talent worth the four-year, $229 million max extension he is eligible for.

But in this restrictive second-apron era, Atlanta will wait on an extension. By waiting, the Hawks can see how things go with this retooled roster and still maintain flexibility in case things don't go well, giving them the option to take a new route and build around a promising young core of developing talent. The Hawks and Kristaps Porzingis are also going to wait on a potential extension and see how this season goes.

For Young, the All-Star can explore his options next summer if he does not get an extension later this season. That means he'll have to get used to not having control of his immediate future.

"I think it's going to be great. I'm not worried about it," Young told ESPN when asked about entering the season without an extension.





I really am nervous about the next 7 months -- probably the most nervous since that 2018 draft night.
What plays out over the next season+ will dictate what direction this franchise goes in for the next decade.


I'm honestly unsure what will happen...or even what I want to happen.

Things change quickly in the NBA, so I'm just gonna enjoy this season.
Unless it goes completely off the rails.
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Re: Is Trae Young on the way out? 

Post#205 » by jayu70 » Mon Oct 27, 2025 6:30 pm

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jayu70 wrote:





I really am nervous about the next 7 months -- probably the most nervous since that 2018 draft night.
What plays out over the next season+ will dictate what direction this franchise goes in for the next decade.


I'm honestly unsure what will happen...or even what I want to happen.

Things change quickly in the NBA, so I'm just gonna enjoy this season.
Unless it goes completely off the rails.

My only nervousness would be being so bad we gift SAS a top pick. :nonono: :nonono: :nonono:
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Re: Is Trae Young on the way out? 

Post#206 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Oct 27, 2025 7:06 pm

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jayu70 wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:



I really am nervous about the next 7 months -- probably the most nervous since that 2018 draft night.
What plays out over the next season+ will dictate what direction this franchise goes in for the next decade.



My only nervousness would be being so bad we gift SAS a top pick. :nonono: :nonono: :nonono:



I'm with you there.

I do suspect that if this season, so full of hope, falls apart -- some combination of Trae Young, Quin Snyder, Kris Porzingis and/or Jalen Johnson could each be pushed out the door.

Regardless of the reason...
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Post#207 » by HMFFL » Wed Oct 29, 2025 10:43 am

36% from the field
5 for 26 (19%) from 3.
Hawks should apply for the DPE because Trae seems disable to me.
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Re: Is Trae Young on the way out? 

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Re: Is Trae Young on the way out? 

Post#209 » by Jamaaliver » Sun Nov 2, 2025 2:49 pm

This 4 week absence due to injury will largely determine Trae's fate in Atlanta.

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Re: Is Trae Young on the way out? 

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Trae Young, Hawks Yet To Make Progress On Extension Amid Value Questions

The Atlanta Hawks have not made progress on extension talks with Trae Young, who is potentially in the final season of his contract before he can test free agency, sources told ESPN. Young is set to earn $46 million this season and holds a $49 million player option for next season.

Determining Young's market value has proven difficult for the organization. The four-time All-Star led the league in assists per game last season at 11.6, but the Hawks have averaged just 40 wins over the past four years and haven't finished above .500 since 2021-22.

A maximum extension would cost Atlanta approximately $230 million over four years, averaging $58 million annually. The Hawks currently have no other max players on their books and must also consider $55 million in combined commitments to Jalen Johnson and Dyson Daniels starting next year, plus center Kristaps Porzingis's impending free agency.
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Re: Is Trae Young on the way out? 

Post#211 » by Jamaaliver » Yesterday 6:37 pm

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Trae Young | Atlanta Hawks
2025-26: 17.8 PPG (37.1 FG%), 7.8 APG, 27.8 MPG
Contract: Year 4 of five-year, $215 million deal

Windhorst: Young is on the final guaranteed year of his contract ($46 million) but has a player option next season for $49 million. He is the Hawks' franchise player. They can sign him to an extension at any time, sources told ESPN that those talks haven't progressed.

That is likely because it's hard to determine a market value for Young. He's a four-time All-Star and led the league in assists per game (11.6) last season. Over the past four years being built primarily around Young, the Hawks have averaged a modest 40 wins and haven't been over .500 since 2021-22.

With that data, the $55 million combined owed to young cornerstones Jalen Johnson and Dyson Daniels starting next year and the impending free agency of center Kristaps Porzingis, the Hawks are being cautious. Young makes the max, and another such deal would mean about $230 million over four years, an average of $58 million. The Hawks currently have no other max players on their books.

"The Hawks have been making smart decisions as a front office and they have done a nice job judging value on their players," a Western Conference executive said. "Trae's agent will spend the next few months working to figure out what his market is, and the Hawks will do their due diligence too, determining what the competition is. And in the end, we'll see who has the best information."

Young, unfortunately, is out for a month with a sprained knee suffered last week. This is bad news for the Hawks, though there was relief that he avoided a worse injury, but the rest of the league is watching. If the Hawks offense suffers badly without their longtime playmaking engine, it could create some leverage for Young and his potential next deal. If the younger Hawks keep their heads above water, it might inform decision-making in the other direction.





Bontemps: Atlanta is in perhaps the most interesting situation of these teams. Because of the Pelicans' pick that is headed their way, and the amount of young talent -- from Johnson to Daniels to last year's No. 1 pick, Zaccharie Risacher -- already on the roster, the Hawks can afford to sit back and see how this plays out and then determine what direction they want to go.

Atlanta has gone 3-1 since Young went down (though two of those wins came against bottom-feeding Brooklyn and Indiana), and more reps for Johnson as an on-ball creator will speed up his development.

"Atlanta is good enough to keep Trae and be good and make the playoffs," an East executive said. "But with the pick and Jalen, Dyson and Zach, they'll at least pick up the phone and listen when called."

But, as another executive laid out, Atlanta doesn't have another high-level proven shot creator on its roster. And the Hawks have surrounded Young with long athletes to offset his defensive deficiencies.

"It's an interesting situation," a Western Conference executive said. "That team is entirely built around him, and his skill set, and I don't see another team that's going to pay $50 million to bring him in [on a max deal next summer].

"He's the engine that makes that ship go. It will be interesting to see what it looks like there without him."
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